Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor

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The incredible

Water Motor

Just runs with

only 1 Liter

tap water

for weeks !

[Kirk]

http://www.usajohnsons.com/cool_energy_stuff/experiments/parallel_path.html

[hartiberlin]

Hi Jack ,
many thanks for posting this info !
Did you now get your patent, so you can tell us this ?
Very good idea to do it this way with the local shortout iron cylinder !
Reminds me of the tricks Dave Squires made in the MFT.
So is your rotor then also just an iron core or does it also have magnets ?
Many thanks for your great research and craftsmanship !
Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

Hi Jack,
why not just use only an iron wire coil
around the magnet as I have posted it over here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1119.msg8914.html#msg8914

2. Also did you try yet to build a transformer on your principle ?
If your motor is overunity , a solid state transformer should also be overunity
with this principle !
It should get you more power output than power input,
if you use a pulsed driver circuit.

Many thanks for publishing your principle over here.

Regards,Stefan.

[Gregory]

Yes, simple and clever, this is the way!
I also think, it can work in a solid state device.

Thank you Jack! It is a really great idea!
I wish you to build your most efficient motor next.

Regards,
Gregory

[Drak]

  Jack,

  Excellent idea. Thank you for posting your valve. I'm glad you finally got your patents, alot quicker then I expected.

  Does neo's have to be used? Have you tried it with rectangle magnets?

  Wow, that really is a good idea. Many thanks. What is your next step? It would be nice if you could find a company that will build them for you. Or you could build and sell them your self. Well whatever your plans are, thank you again!


  P.S.  My invitation is still open, but I don't think proof is needed now.


 Drak

[z_p_e]

Nice thinking Jack.

I am wondering however, how it is possible that the same power is required no matter how strong the magnet is?

It seems that the stronger the magnet, the more energy is required to "buck" the magnet's field to force it around and through the armature, rather than the sleeve. If that's the case, then there would only be one combination of magnet strength and sleeve thickness/permeability that would match the 8 Watts of power energizing the coil.

Any deviation from this would mean either power is being wasted in the coil due to over-bucking the field, or you would not be diverting all the available flux from the magnet due to under-bucking it's field.

Therefore, to maximize the efficiency, the power used to energize the coil should be emperically or mathematically determined.

As I mentioned before, this is a variation of the Flynn et al method.

z_p_e

[Liberty]

Hello All,

Well here it is  The Hilden-Brand electro magnetic valve.

Later,,,,JackH

Jack you surprised everyone I think by showing it now before your patent is approved (or has it been approved?).  Simple design and effective.  Nicely done.  Congratulations!

Liberty

[Liberty]

I wonder if 'Jake' is still following the board to see a design that uses magnets? 

[MT]

Hello JackH,

many thanks for posting this now. It is really an admirable and simple idea. Congratulation.

Out of curiosity I just put four neos (12mm with hole) in suitable washers to see whether they can be shorted. Well, seems neos with hole wont work. Mine cylinder still stick to the refrigerator (probably wants to cool down in current sweat . The magnet should be definitely without a hole as is on the picture.

all the best,
MT

[Elvis Oswald]

Kudos for posting that Jack.