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Author Topic: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?  (Read 49813 times)

Omnibus

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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #200 on: October 20, 2007, 03:44:57 PM »
Omni,

 The Device is not perfect, and not easy for anyone to build and verify.

 And who will verify his machine?   The person with a gun in his
pocket.   Or some nobody who everyone things is his best
friend pulling a prank.   Or maybe someone that many know...
yet secretly, they are with gun too.

 There is no easy way for anyone to get verification.

I disagree. Instruct me to make a device which will make full turns as @xpenzif's device does, perhaps a couple of more minutes, and you're there. I have already conclusively proven that CoE can be violated so the possibility for existence of such devices won't be news to me. The new thing, if I see it spinning for a couple of minutes, will be the convenient engineering, practical application of that violation (the device I've proved to violate CoE can also find practical application but isn't that convenient).
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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #200 on: October 20, 2007, 03:44:57 PM »
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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #201 on: October 20, 2007, 03:46:47 PM »
Omnibus,please calm down.

It would be good, if people who replicated it
and don?t get it to work would post a video too, so
one can learn from them, how not to do it.

The magnet motors are very very difficult to set up
and very small details matters, so the fields must
be 100 % right, otherwise it will not work.

Have a look again at the MFT design files,
especially this one:

http://overunity.com/mft/OU_Generator_proposal.htm

Regards, Stefan.
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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #202 on: October 20, 2007, 03:54:30 PM »
Omnibus,please calm down.

It would be good, if people who replicated it
and don?t get it to work would post a video too, so
one can learn from them, how not to do it.

The magnet motors are very very difficult to set up
and very small details matters, so the fields must
be 100 % right, otherwise it will not work.

Have a look again at the MFT design files,
especially this one:

http://overunity.com/mft/OU_Generator_proposal.htm

Regards, Stefan.
Can't agree more. Let everyone who tries to replicate it post a video, working or not (spare the discussion of useless, unsubstantiated posts, however, which only clutter the discussion).

Also, do you remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0KHZ53g678&mode=related&search=. One may say, a very efficient redistribution of initially imparted energy. Seems, however, there's more to it. This, as well as this http://youtube.com/watch?v=YvHb41KP7To seem like the precursors of the experiment we're discussing.

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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #203 on: October 20, 2007, 07:03:39 PM »
Now my replication is done.
And it does not work.
Every screw is a litle sticky spot.
Eric.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2007, 07:24:14 PM by eavogels »
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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #203 on: October 20, 2007, 07:03:39 PM »

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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #204 on: October 20, 2007, 07:13:42 PM »
Well this is mine and just a close up. I got it a pass a few spots, but not a good attraction from screw to screw, used #8 and grinded both sides, makes a good outside V shape, going to try #12 next and have closer together, we see! And why does his ends look black or strange color, maybe heat Temp!! Keep trying guys

Wayne
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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #205 on: October 20, 2007, 07:21:06 PM »
Ok Folks step back .... I may not believe in a all knowing god, but theres this little feeling inside me saying these guys bickering isnt going to help and you both have valid points... just drop it and move along maybe make a quarter wager on paypal if the machine will work, lets not argue between ourselves besides i can't think clearly when im mad... i have to go play guitar for an hr to calm down.. so find your peace and lets keep the wagon moving
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« Reply #205 on: October 20, 2007, 07:21:06 PM »
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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #206 on: October 20, 2007, 07:26:39 PM »
I feel like ive seen this motor somewhere and were only building half of it ... Just throwing this out there to anyone that has more than one demo so far im still making my first, try connecting your center points so to have  what looks to be a sideways a frame and mabey double the magnets at the gate. I swear ive seen this somewhere.
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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #207 on: October 20, 2007, 07:40:56 PM »
Hi Sean,
I don?t understand your CAD drawings.

Where do you want to mount your magnets to these wheels ?


Hi Stefan

The drawings are of Individual Rotors, just like Craigy had done with his Rig, but instead of being rounds, they have the slants cut out out them. So the next stage would be to place a small bit of metal around the edge and follow the shape.
Below is the rotor again with the grey bits representing the metal. Now simply stack 4 of these together to get the same pattern as your screws.

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/metalstrips.jpg)
Cheers

Sean.
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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #207 on: October 20, 2007, 07:40:56 PM »

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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #208 on: October 20, 2007, 07:45:31 PM »
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Also, do you remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0KHZ53g678&mode=related&search=. One may say, a very efficient redistribution of initially imparted energy. Seems, however, there's more to it. This, as well as this http://youtube.com/watch?v=YvHb41KP7To seem like the precursors of the experiment we're discussing

Both of this video are Faked looped video. Don't get fooled by them!
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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #208 on: October 20, 2007, 07:45:31 PM »

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Re: Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?
« Reply #209 on: October 20, 2007, 08:03:35 PM »
@All

First I’ll be clear so no one is offended. I am not currently attempting a replication of this device. However, what I see in his video is the most promising I have ever seen. What I see is unique and I WILL replicate it after I complete my current commitment.

The uniqueness is the shapes of both the magnets and the screws. My view is these shapes do two things.

1. The distance between the magnets and screws is maintained while changing the mass attracted to the magnet as the drum rotates. We all know field lines don’t change in quantity when travelling along a taper – they only concentrate as the presented mass decreases.
2. The same thing looks to be going on radially from the drum axis. I.e. The screw’s thickness decreases as it passes the magnet. This without changing the distance of the screw’s surface to the magnet.

I suspect when these field lines concentrate they do the same thing as increasing the magnetic attraction as the screw passes under the magnet. When the screw passes to the point where the tip is nearing the point of being directly under the magnet the head of the next screw is close enough to start exerting more pull since it is presenting more mass that the tip of the previous screw.
The use of aluminum on the stator may also be a very important feature. No one can tell me exactly what the effect of aluminum has on this because aluminum in magnetic fields never fails to amaze me.

I haven’t thought of a way to create much torque with this, yet. BUT, I do believe it could work. So my earlier statement stands. I still think this is incredible! I wouldn’t have thrown it out for replication myself. That only breeds volumes of ‘improvements’ and non-working variations and then negative comments.
I am grateful he posted this video. He has more guts than I.

I have never dreamed of using what I see here and I don’t recall seeing any other design using the methods I see on this device. When I do build it. The first thing I’ll check is ‘does it look identical?’
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« Reply #209 on: October 20, 2007, 08:03:35 PM »
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