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[magpie]

dankie, please stop trolling, you fail at faking real interest and most can easily see through your facade.
Plasma is hardly a dead horse, it is difficult to study and manipulate and it is not well understood. Hardly good enough reasons to drop it (unless you are too lazy to get up and actually do something other than waste people's time making pointless comments and trying to stop people from doing research...).
How old are you?

Water as fuel is not a dead horse , its your plasma idea for water as fuel that is a dead horse , I now see you are mad @ me because you just realized that .

[dankie]

dankie, please stop trolling, you fail at faking real interest and most can easily see through your facade.
Plasma is hardly a dead horse, it is difficult to study and manipulate and it is not well understood. Hardly good enough reasons to drop it (unless you are too lazy to get up and actually do something other than waste people's time making pointless comments and trying to stop people from doing research...).
How old are you?

Its really simple the way I think , I look @ this from the raw doability of something and its overall potential  . Any idea that doesnt fall into this category I try to railroad , its that simple . At this moment I can see that only Stanley Meyers work is a solution , especially now .

I dont care about your emotions or your opinion , I dont care if I crush your dreams or break your heart . I look @ the facts and come up with my own conclusion , and I am right almost everytime .  I railroad somebody and the OU sommunity is better off .

[gmeast]

Its really simple the way I think , I look @ this from the raw doability of something and its overall potential  . Any idea that doesnt fall into this category I try to railroad , its that simple . At this moment I can see that only Stanley Meyers work is a solution , especially now .

I dont care about your emotions or your opinion , I dont care if I crush your dreams or break your heart . I look @ the facts and come up with my own conclusion , and I am right almost everytime .  I railroad somebody and the OU sommunity is better off .

Fine donkey.  Go some place else and do it and don't waste any more of our time.  Luc, would you please get rid of this gnat.  He some how has designated himself as expert enough to say that only Meyers has IT.  donkey ... where is your up-and-running Meyers system?  Where is it?  Have you built one?  Are you going to build one? 

The donkey prayer:
Please, please show us the way and save us from ourselves ... oh lord of overunity ... I pray that you turn us from our misled ways and deliver us from the darkness we have fallen in to. Open our eyes to your wisdom and make our minds guide our hands to toil to and make devices to glorify you.

Praise all mighty donkey.  Ah f---ing 'men.

Oh, this is for crap.

[magpie]

dankie,  you are not an expert relating to anything here and you are too busy loving the sound of your own voice to contribute anything,  you do not speak for the sake of contributing anything useful, but speak for the sake of wanting to listen to your own "clever" voice and wanting to be right.
You say you are "right almost every time" and "the OU community is better off"; please prove the times you have been right and please get it out of your head that you are the saviour of OU.
You have been asked multiple times what you have contributed or done and have ignored the question every time and we all know why
I suggest you go for a walk outside to get away from the computer screen.

Its really simple the way I think , I look @ this from the raw doability of something and its overall potential  . Any idea that doesnt fall into this category I try to railroad , its that simple . At this moment I can see that only Stanley Meyers work is a solution , especially now .
I look @ the facts and come up with my own conclusion , and I am right almost everytime .  I railroad somebody and the OU sommunity is better off .

[gotoluc]

Hi all,

I have been out of town since early morning Friday and did not have internet access.

I see that dankie has clearly written his opinion on the Plasma Water Spark and has nothing better to share so I don't think we need to debate it any longer.

Everyone has the right to his or her opinion and now dankie's is archived. The future outcome is up to all of us interested in continuing the research and working together.

I would like to thank Greg for his enormous contribution to date and I'm sure he will be encouraged continue to post his development once again when he see's others putting in the effort to what he has taken so much of his time and energy to Freely share his experiment results to help All who have interest in developing this technology.

Greg is one of the best example of what true Open Source technology sharing is about. However, no one should work alone at something that could be good for All. We need to work together as a team to win a game, right!...so let's use our energy wisely and I'm sure once we have a strong, dedicated and focused group, the Universal force will intuitively guide each one of us to help put the pieces together as to best use this effect.

Let's keep our mind on the goal! which is Free Ecological Energy Independence for All...  we only waste time when trying to prove someone right or wrong!

I do believe building, testing and sharing our results will be the best way to come up with new ideas to further develop the effect.

@dankie, any future negative or off topic post will be deleted.

Thank you all for your support and sharing.

Luc

[aquapulser]

Hello everyone

We are open source engineers and our day jobs are in IT  and Electronics Engineering. We specialize in taking a pie in the sky concept from black board to production and we have prototyped a plasma spark device for the open source community. This is our two cent contribution for the open source energy community.
 

Please check out the videos of our prototype Radiant Plasma 4700 in HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuNvuPMGu6c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJzqh5au_c

Folks we have 10 protoypes for purchase...protoyping a Plasma spark unit has been a very expensive proposition not to mention challenging especially when it came to miniaturization and achieving 97% charging efficiency.  Our primary goal was to get researchers a low cost device so they can start working on alternative fuels, HHO and study the plasma spark effect rather than struggle with expensive large capacitor charging circuits and diode banks.  No more fried inverters....no more inverters period... we can truly say this is a plasma ignition researchers dream device.

 email: admin@aquapulser.com  if you are interested in preordering a prototype. We plan to protoype additional units and auction them on ebay as we have to eventually recover our initial prototyping costs.

Interested plasma spark researchers, please post this on all the other HHO  plasma spark research forums...Guys forgive us for not spending too much time on online forums..there are just so many forums discussing this topic and related topics....please do understand, we spend our day jobs working on electronics and engineering related projects so we try to make sure our hobbies have as little to do with electronics or engineering as possible.  We definitely felt we could make life easier for open source researchers in providing  a value added plasma research device using our industry expertise and this is our professional contribution.

Our site will be up soon. Thanks for your time.

[gotoluc]

Hi aquapulser,

I am not too sure why you are posting your product here as all of us have been sharing our research and technology free of charge.

This maybe a way to advertise your product but this is a Free Public Forum?

I will have to check with Stefan (Forum Moderator) as I'm not sure what the rules are with this kind of situation.

I have no problem with those who want to do business with this technology but It may not be appropriate to use this Public Forum to do so.

Let me check and see.

Luc

[gmeast]

Hi aquapulser,

I am not too sure why you are posting your product here as all of us have been sharing our research and technology free of charge.

This maybe a way to advertise your product but this is a Free Public Forum?

I will have to check with Stefan (Forum Moderator) as I'm not sure what the rules are with this kind of situation.

I have no problem with those who want to do business with this technology but It may not be appropriate to use this Public Forum to do so.

Let me check and see.

Luc

Hi aquapulser,

... not only that but I have not seen your system applied to a distributed ignition spark.  A large part of our research and design has been aimed at a "piggy back" concept.  We don't need a CDI coil driver either ... it just rides on top of the existing ignition system  It looks to me like you need one '4700' per plug which makes the total power consumption look ... not so good and not better than the basic VexUs system which is only 50 Watts to run a 4 cylinder engine at 4500 RPM.  But the 4700 @ 26 Watts times 4 is ?

Nice packaging and guitar grinding  though.

Greg

[hartiberlin]

Hello everyone

We are open source engineers and our day jobs are in IT  and Electronics Engineering. We specialize in taking a pie in the sky concept from black board to production and we have prototyped a plasma spark device for the open source community. This is our two cent contribution for the open source energy community.
 

Please check out the videos of our prototype Radiant Plasma 4700 in HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuNvuPMGu6c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJzqh5au_c

Folks we have 10 protoypes for purchase...protoyping a Plasma spark unit has been a very expensive proposition not to mention challenging especially when it came to miniaturization and achieving 97% charging efficiency.  Our primary goal was to get researchers a low cost device so they can start working on alternative fuels, HHO and study the plasma spark effect rather than struggle with expensive large capacitor charging circuits and diode banks.  No more fried inverters....no more inverters period... we can truly say this is a plasma ignition researchers dream device.

 email: admin@aquapulser.com  if you are interested in preordering a prototype. We plan to protoype additional units and auction them on ebay as we have to eventually recover our initial prototyping costs.

Interested plasma spark researchers, please post this on all the other HHO  plasma spark research forums...Guys forgive us for not spending too much time on online forums..there are just so many forums discussing this topic and related topics....please do understand, we spend our day jobs working on electronics and engineering related projects so we try to make sure our hobbies have as little to do with electronics or engineering as possible.  We definitely felt we could make life easier for open source researchers in providing  a value added plasma research device using our industry expertise and this is our professional contribution.

Our site will be up soon. Thanks for your time.

Product looks great.
Is it also possible to run the motor on Water mist only with this kit or is it only to enhance gasoline fuel efficiency ?

P.S. From which bands are the great background songs in the youtube videos ?

Will you have an affiliate program ?

Regards, Stefan.

[dankie]

Hello everyone

We are open source engineers and our day jobs are in IT  and Electronics Engineering. We specialize in taking a pie in the sky concept from black board to production and we have prototyped a plasma spark device for the open source community. This is our two cent contribution for the open source energy community.
 

Please check out the videos of our prototype Radiant Plasma 4700 in HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuNvuPMGu6c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJzqh5au_c

Folks we have 10 protoypes for purchase...protoyping a Plasma spark unit has been a very expensive proposition not to mention challenging especially when it came to miniaturization and achieving 97% charging efficiency.  Our primary goal was to get researchers a low cost device so they can start working on alternative fuels, HHO and study the plasma spark effect rather than struggle with expensive large capacitor charging circuits and diode banks.  No more fried inverters....no more inverters period... we can truly say this is a plasma ignition researchers dream device.

 email: admin@aquapulser.com  if you are interested in preordering a prototype. We plan to protoype additional units and auction them on ebay as we have to eventually recover our initial prototyping costs.

Interested plasma spark researchers, please post this on all the other HHO  plasma spark research forums...Guys forgive us for not spending too much time on online forums..there are just so many forums discussing this topic and related topics....please do understand, we spend our day jobs working on electronics and engineering related projects so we try to make sure our hobbies have as little to do with electronics or engineering as possible.  We definitely felt we could make life easier for open source researchers in providing  a value added plasma research device using our industry expertise and this is our professional contribution.

Our site will be up soon. Thanks for your time.

Great Job , looks easy to setup ...

This will help alot .

I liked your info of Meyers on your site.

[gotoluc]

Hi aquapulser and everyone,

Stefan (the board moderator) seems to be okay for now with your post demonstrating your new product but it would be nice to see participation from you by answering some questions members may have about your product.

I see Greg (the top developer) has asked questions and I also see Stefan has.

Looking forward in your participation.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[magpie]

Hi aquapulser,
I am not too sure why you are posting your product here as all of us have been sharing our research and technology free of charge.
This maybe a way to advertise your product but this is a Free Public Forum?
Luc

Hey Luc,

With respect, I can see why they are charging, I have been building an aquapulser circuit (the diagram is off their site) and though it seems relatively simple, it has actually cost a lot of time (and money, though I am using a lot of used parts to cut costs) just to redesign the circuit to my own specs and then to get that circuit actually designed into a printable PCB. Though I am not talking of you (thank you for your many contributions ), many people on this forum get angry when someone wants to charge for their invention, the majority of these people are those that do not realize how much it costs a person to build something even quite simple while keeping it clear and simple enough for the average person to understand. Many inventors of these kind of devices have jobs and not much spare time and commonly have little money so hats off to them. I cannot afford to buy something like this so could likewise be unhappy but maybe a better idea would be to do our best to donate to people like these guys, if we can, when it is open sourced (I'm pretty sure it will be up on their site).
I have no training or even knowledge of electrical engineering so I have made the stuff I have worked on (I will open source it) as clear as possible for someone similar so that building will be easy, but I am also flat broke so though for example I will open source my work and will not request money, any help would be appreciated. Same applies to the Aquapulser folks, if I could afford to, I would buy a unit to make a contribution to their continued efforts.
 

[magpie]

Hi aquapulser,

... not only that but I have not seen your system applied to a distributed ignition spark.  A large part of our research and design has been aimed at a "piggy back" concept.  We don't need a CDI coil driver either ... it just rides on top of the existing ignition system  It looks to me like you need one '4700' per plug which makes the total power consumption look ... not so good and not better than the basic VexUs system which is only 50 Watts to run a 4 cylinder engine at 4500 RPM.  But the 4700 @ 26 Watts times 4 is ?
Nice packaging and guitar grinding  though.
Greg

Hi Greg,
The great thing about the Aquapulser circuit is that you can do a lot of playing and modification, I think this is the kind of circuit that has a lot of potential if the time is put it on research. The size of the plasmoids they are producing with the Aquapulser is fantastic! Even if no water was used I think fuel and burn efficiency would be increased. 

[aquapulser]

Thanks for your comments everyone.

We look forward and hope to answer all questions that may arise once our site is up.

Plasma ignition has been around for quite a while now. The basic working concept behind the unit we prototyped is based on the following patent:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3788293.html

Other similar patents
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4029072.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4223656.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4366801.html

There are also other patents and they will be listed on our website.

The key here is that the charging technology has been minaturized using SMT technology and a custom programmed microprocessor to optimize a flyback capacitor charging circuit. The charging technology is cutting edge and that is also the reason why in spite of all the patents out there, there are hardly any plasma spark products.  The issue has always been miniaturizing the charging technology and power consumption, which is possible today because of SMD components and microprocessors.

we would like to make it abundantly clear that we are not here for profit by any means. We are not new to the OU community, we sold and auctioned off high quality gated PWMS because a lot of researchers didnt have gated PWMs and we never posted any ads. We saved and used the funds to further R&D and as a result the Plasma Spark generator is the next HHO research device.


Please read the posts by a gentleman by the name of Shane Jackson

http://hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=2093&page=3

The average cost of building the current open source plasma spark vexus circuit...which is conceptually virtually identical to the expired patents outlined above is around $400. And this $400 does not include the inverter. We are all Shane Jacksons here...kudos to him at least he knows how much it costs to actually get just a  basic open source circuit prototyped.

Our pricing will be around $350 just barely covers the basic production costs, from circuit design, enclosure design, Surface mount assembly, HV encapsulation, custom machined connectors, and high quality components etc. We are under the impression that most HHO plasma spark researchers know the cost of actually prototyping a plasma spark device. If we had actually charged for the actual engineering and design input, the unit price would be well over $500.

Credit goes to Luc for having discovered that a high current plasma spark explodes water mist.

Our goal is simply to make affordable plasma spark units for open source researchers to see if the plasma technology can actually run a car on water, HHO or even 60% Ethanol 40% water and if it can supplement existing HHO systems and other systems under ongoing research like Stanley Meyers etc.

We have no personal attachment to any technology or process, and we feel it is the public's right to test it out for themselves and if it doesn't work keep moving on. Our way of contributing back is to take bold risks in prototyping by investing capital and  we invested all of it in bring out a production model that will help everyone move forward with plasma ignition technology and achieve the broader objectives of a true and lasting energy independence.

We would like the broader public who are not OU members or part of the open source culture to test the plasma spark effect. Gmeast  has claimed excellent mileage gains...lets see if others can better it. Those who are great skilled mechanics (unlike us) but have little electronics experience to build a plasma spark circuit can benefit greatly from our work, and that is the best way to move forward if the open source engineering paradigm does indeed work!

[alpeko]

Hi everyone,

Very nice looking aquapulser,but on this forum we must share ours inventions,and make  better world.
No problem make 300 - 500 V inverters,and discharge cap on spark plug,for us electronic spec.
But we must helping for others who's want make plasma spark circuits.

Best reg.

Alpeko