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[pese]

Sorry for not posting replication details here, but it has been driving me mad this weekend with the Time Outs these forums are having.
But have been updating a thread over at my forums.

Second lot of glue has gone on this evening as as soon as it is set I will remove all the screws.

Used my Bowman Frame for now to mount it.

Now gonna hit Post button and hope it does not time out 

Attention at the 4 Magnets that are in your design "INLINE" next by next
BUT at "the origine motor"
   they are offset ordered.

This cane produce an great differnce in working ...
Pese

[CLaNZeR]

Attention at the 4 Magnets that are in your design "INLINE" next by next
BUT at "the origine motor"
   they are offset ordered.

This cane produce an great differnce in working ...
Pese

Yep I am making a ARC holder to position them in different ways, more to come yet

Cheers

Sean.

[dani1]

Clanzer,
In your video you are testing the magnets of the v-track with another magnet. Both Tracks are appelling. In the V-Track of the original video one Track is N, the other S

dani

[broli]

Yep I am making a ARC holder to position them in different ways, more to come yet

Cheers

Sean.

Your first hand aided rotation made me think of a new design. I'll post a rendition later on.

[CLaNZeR]

Clanzer,
In your video you are testing the magnets of the v-track with another magnet. Both Tracks are appelling. In the V-Track of the original video one Track is N, the other S

dani

Hi Dani

The two tracks on my rotor have N one side spiralling outwards and S the other side spiralling outwards.

Cheers

Sean.

[Shanti]

@CLaNZeR: Wow, just visited your site, and I have to shout a big: RESPECT for your continuous work!

Did you also try the LaFonte design? For this is the first I actually think could really work, as it uses the force developed perpendicular to the field.
See here: http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:LaFonte_Perpendicular_Magnetics_Motor

I think, if you attach a large flywheel and mount some mechanics, it should even be possible to make a passive device on this principle.

About this german motor principle. I think the key point is, to have as much stators as possible. If you think about it, if one stator is at the sticky point, it will only get past it, if the force developed by the other stators (which are currently obviously not at a sticky point) is stronger. So more stators should actually help. With 2 it will certainly never work! As the other stator surely does not have the power to get the other one past the sticky point. Actually you could calculate if it is ever possible, even with an infinite amount of stators, so that all the non-sticky stators develop more force, than the current sticky one.

A simple try would be: Take one stator and measure the force exhibited on the rotor at different rotor positions. Then you will quickly see, if it is reasonable that some stators together bring more force than the current sticky stator.

[broli]

Oke I first wanted to make a 3d model but then got lazy so I just made it with good old MS paint, do mind that I did try to make the best out of it  .

(http://ziosproject.com/NJ/magnetPiston.PNG)

Basically it's a piston laid on its side. Now I don't know how optimal this is but I think it might work best if you had two rotors with the magnet in the middle pushing the magnet back and forth and making each other spin.

[AB Hammer]

@broli

 Well I see something a little different. You can only do it for a short time, so working it like a piston takes it away to long. So in this case mu-metal  may be your best bet. But I think I may have another idea as well, but it will have to be of a new approach which I had been working on and mentioned to Sean in personal message.

[broli]

Here's what I meant btw...

(http://ziosproject.com/NJ/magnetPiston1.PNG)

Abhammer this should solve the distance issue since both are using the magnet now at each distance. While it goes out to avoid one rotor's wall it accelerates the other to make it come back and restart the process.

PS: I know the drawing is horrific.

[orosado]

Oke I first wanted to make a 3d model but then got lazy so I just made it with good old MS paint, do mind that I did try to make the best out of it  .

(http://ziosproject.com/NJ/magnetPiston.PNG)

Basically it's a piston laid on its side. Now I don't know how optimal this is but I think it might work best if you had two rotors with the magnet in the middle pushing the magnet back and forth and making each other spin.

Hello broli:

Good try with Paint. Why don't you use Google SketchUp, its free and easy to use:
http://sketchup.google.com/

Regards,
Omar

[broli]

Hello broli:

Good try with Paint. Why don't you use Google SketchUp, its free and easy to use:
http://sketchup.google.com/

Regards,
Omar

@orosado: I wanted to make a sketchup model but got too lazy :p.

[AB Hammer]

Hay Broli

 Send me your email and I will send you that AVI of that magnet wheel. I am at  ab.hammer@yahoo.com

Hay Sean

 Try a small roller cam on each side of the drum to push the draw magnet away just long enough to get past the sticky spot. Since it is on an attraction movement this should work good. (just a tid-bit from the AB goody box) This is what I am calling my idea box now. LOL

[Omega_0]

broli,

It will lock up and won't even turn a full turn by itself.
Sad but true.

Its like connecting two pulleys by belt and expecting that each will turn the other.

[shooter001]

I think the motor is failing because his designs clearly show 4 poles on the outside and you are only using 2.  The 4 may be the minimum required to overcome the v.

Craig.

[Charlie_V]

I‘Il have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing.’
— Thomas Alva Edison

Spoken like someone who only ever had one idea.  Edison was a douche... 

Haha, sorry, I don't like Edison.