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[pauldude000]

@all

We are starting to swim in new uncharted water, so tread carefully.........

DO NOT, please do NOT, try what I stated earlier with Spherics device!!!!!!!! It just hit me why it reminds me of a force chamber!!

Some of the effects which SHOULD become apparent are gravitic in nature. Spherics device may well, if my imagination is working at all, create a localized gravitic distortion, somewhat controlled in nature. Call it a "gravity bottle" for want of a better term or description. The force of gravity is exponential by nature. At the periphery, the effect may be quite small, while at the center quite strong. If too strong, then packet structures of individual particles may well be forced to contact DESPITE natural spin repulsion and therefore rupture, and possibly restructure into new stable combinants.

What I am talking about is, again for want of a better term.... possibly complete PARTICLE (not simply atomic) fission then re-fusion. If controlled, then not a problem, except for possibly powerful variant flows. If control is lost during the process? (This scenario is not funny.)

Therein is probably the "overunity", of many electrical devices. The previous principle on an extremely small scale. Packet Energy Conversion, or PEC for short. A little goes a long way.

Paul Andrulis

[Grumpy]

Biasing is a good start.

[pauldude000]

Hello all,

@Paul

as we know we are pulsating our coils so please!!!! would you be so kind to make a 1 minute hand drawing so we can see what you mean?? The problem is that we have on 1 end of the coil pulses and on the other end a + or - connected.

Sorry, Im a little bit stupid, ha,ha.

And maybe other solutions?? Of course I also would love to know: are you talking about controls, collectors....

Otto

Otto, what I speak of is simple as breathing. Use ordinary plain lamp cord (or speaker wire... "zip-cord" of any style, which is heavy gauge, 2 conductor parallel with plastic insulation). Wrap your controls with this material.

Simple wire diagram below.

Twisted together at this end:
  ][
  ][
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
|| ||
|| ||
+   -

+ = pulse input
- = Circuit ground

Use this as your controls. Whether you will need one control all the way around, or two controls, I don't yet know.

This would focus the effect "vortexes" into the collectors in the center. Pulsing this would in effect be the same in concept as having jumper cables hooked to a battery, then slapping the clamps against each other, except with much less current involved.

At the right frequency, the pulse will be in lock step with each other on the two wires, and the effect would be at maximum for that voltage/amperage combination.

However, if you use a sintered iron core.... you may get more than you are looking for. (I know you like TV yokes, but please try it first without one.)

Personally, I want to try one with a single control all the way around, and the same type of wire hookup for the collector as well, but hook the control and the collector in series, on a TV yoke...... (not looking with this experiment for electricity generation.......)

It would be interesting to try the amplification setup BEP gave, as an answer to a question from me, in the "steven marks tube amp" thread.....

Interesting indeed.

EDIT:

DO NOT CLOSE WIND the lamp cord, as it may kill the effect! leave a space between each winding.



Paul Andrulis

[pauldude000]

The more I think about this, the more everything starts making sense, and the more of SM's clues start adding up.

For instance, look at a bar magnet under a sheet of paper, using iron power or filings sprinkled on the top of the paper. The classic "look at the mag field" experiment.

Notice something. No "lines of force" coming from the center of the bar magnet. The only concentration of perpendicular "lines" are from the pole areas. (Aaaaggh! I hate the term "lines of force". Fits like a salvation army shoe reject. They are only "lines" when viewed in flatland.)

Now, remember SM's toroid "jitter" when it moved? (He wasn't wearing a parka, so obviously wasn't even close to either magnetic pole of the earth.) Hint... The TPU wasn't "cutting" any "lines of force", which were PARALLEL to his TPU unit during the demonstration.

What, I ask therefore, was causing the TPU to have a case of the "jitters"?

 

Paul Andrulis

[otto]

Hello all,

I finished a very log post about cores, coils.....wanted to post it but I realized that it has no sence.

Why?

The people have a lot of their ideas, are maybe working on TPUs....I dint want to disturb them with my misleading posts. Its better Im quiet.

All I saw here is that nobody is listening!!

@Paul

try it.

Otto

[wattsup]

@otto

There is no one saying your are wrong or right. If you have some idea please say it regardless.

Ideas are thrown around all the time and it is in these ideas that can give more ideas.

You are right about LTPU output voltage 800V x 1.2 amps = ???
So three coils, one in coil/cap resonance and two driven via the two center toroids via one frequency, makes two frequency and one resonance. If each of the three have only 0.40 amps, how many volts does each have to be to arrive at the above end result on the collector and do they have to be in parallel or series???????? Hey that's toooo easy.

You see, those amp ratings are very revealing. We now know all the wires, toroids, caps, etc., have to resist a minimum volts/amps rating. lol

Also think about the LTPU has two wires going to only one volume control or pot beside the two left on/off switches. I am thinking that if one of the two CC1/crossover lines was driven under resonance, the coil with cap would just follow it, but the third CC2/crossover would have to be trimmed to the first, so only one pot is required. lol

For me it will be easier to build one then to explain one. Build and test is the only way. lol There is a total of approximately 426 control coil turns of wire all around the LTPU. It could be 142 x 3. Or it is most likely 213x2 plus an additional 2 x 112 one to left and one to right of the output with the two black caps. Two half winds agrees better because when SM put his hands over the LTPU to show energy flow it was in a two way method with both hands starting away from him and coming together. Very symmetrically.

Anyways, maybe it is me that is the bother so I will just build one and show it when it is finished. Lucky I won't have to hide anything so this will take much less time.

I think maybe the problem many have with iron is to see where in the tpu there is some iron. But If what you are doing is getting results, then you are doing something right with your iron core technique.

There are many ways to do this and we don't have to make a true tpu replica. I am more oriented to deciphering physically the actual tpu's, slowly but surely, one step at a time, but anyways, the end result is what will really count.

[Grumpy]

All I saw here is that nobody is listening!!

This is correct.

[pauldude000]

@Otto

Please understand that my warning reference to iron cores has little to do with magnetism, but with OTHER potential effects. It would simply be better, and probably SAFER, to test without a ferrous core.

By all means Otto, please post your ideas! I may well be full of the brown stuff, and in ways actually HOPE I am.

Paul Andrulis

[otto]

Hello all,

@wattsup, Paul

heeeey guys, I was all the time talking about COPPER cores!!!

NO IRON.

To use iron is out of any logic!!

We want highly accelerated particles and NOT the contra - slowed down particles. Iron is only slowing down the particles because they penetrate the iron core. As the penetrating is very deep, the particles are slowed down.

A totally different situation we have with Metglas cores. The particles are only striving over the surface over such a core and the end effect is zero.

So, COPPER CORES!!!

In this moment I cant give you ideas or what Im doing because .... because.....it doesnt matter.

Otto

[zapnic]

Hello all,

@wattsup, Paul

heeeey guys, I was all the time talking about COPPER cores!!!

NO IRON.

To use iron is out of any logic!!

We want highly accelerated particles and NOT the contra - slowed down particles. Iron is only slowing down the particles because they penetrate the iron core. As the penetrating is very deep, the particles are slowed down.

A totally different situation we have with Metglas cores. The particles are only striving over the surface over such a core and the end effect is zero.

So, COPPER CORES!!!

In this moment I cant give you ideas or what I'm doing because .... because.....it doesnt matter.

Otto

otto
you are so right
i have looking that mylow motor and mister MrfixitRick stuff and there is that one little thing
i believe that right freq and right core material hmmm okey tpu is making two kind of energy
heat and electricity but the energy is coming from same place

maybe wrong maybe right

[otto]

Hello all,

@zapnic

I know that Im right but dont even think I would read the other threads. The posts there would only confuse my little brain. Im not willing to read all over this big forum. Its a waste of time. A waste of time in the sence that nobody can help me and I even dont want help. I have more then enough ideas.

I would love my TPU is not so warm? hot? something between both. The heat is not good but....for now, I have to accept it.

Otto

[wattsup]

@otto

Thanks for your clarification.

My main work has always been to better physically describe SM's TPU's in an effort that these descriptions may help others to better understand how it could work. I am seeing much more clearly the LTPU now after having worked closely on the FTPU physicals.

How the actual devices work will always be left to figure out exactly but the physical side will never change from what we have in hand.

There is only one question I have and it will never be to ask you to explain your device testing, etc., because I know it will only open up a whole new can of worms on the forum and this is not help to you at all. lol

So the question is when you are saying "copper core", the copper I understand and also why it could be used. The word "core" is more puzzling. Are you referring to the two center toroid cores because in my eyes that is the only place I can see a core. Or are you talking about the outer ring materials or wires in the outer ring in the FTPU and LTPU.

To me the word "core" announces a "coupling" process between two coils. Or as in my last LTPU description on this thread, yes the two center toroid cores could be copper even with bucking coil arrangements. I suppose this would offer less saturation potential but very quick reaction of what I would call "bounce back" or "reflection". One pulse to the copper coil wound rebound more pulses. I don't really know. SM did mention "shadow casting".

If I knew what you mean physically in the TPU by the word "core" then I could investigate the physicals of the TPUS to see a relationship and maybe even come back with some better identifications.

Anyways, keep well. Don't burn your fingers.

wattsup

PS: This is something that goes for all member when talking about the TPU's please try to physically clearly place the components you are talking about. Don't just say core, because there could be more then one. Don't just say coil, because there is more then one and all this only confused the issue further.

[otto]

Hello all,

@wattsup

I have real 2 cores. They are 15" in diameter and made with copper pipes 1/2" in diameter. That are 2 rings.

@All

Maybe its time to discuss the kicks. I mean the positive - oridinary kicks and the negative kicks.

What are the differences, advantages, disadvantages?

We have here enough good educated people for a good discussion, I hope.

This is very important because a discussion about kicks can clear up a lot in the understanding of TPUs.

I would love to concentrate more on the negative kicks.

I used them in my ECD TPU if you dont know how they llook like.

Otto

[oriharu]

Dear sirs.

This is my first contribution in OverUnity.com.

I have an integrative point of view recently.

I would like to share with you this view.

My English is poor English.

But I think the logic is easy to understand.

http://oriharu.net/eMylow_motor.htm

[otto]

Hello all,

@oriharu

welcome on board.

Im always "afraid" when I see newbies posting here because not once I had the feeling that SM was posting.

Guys remember "dfro", "spherics"? They posted only a few times but they did a great "job". At least for me.

Otto

PS: I see here a great discussion about kicks and coils and all the TPU stuff.