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[gadgetmall]

Well Experiment 3 is finished . the run cap stopped at 0.521 volts thus the silicon 2n2222a limits . the charge cap reached 1.015 volts . So conclusion is a "supercap " is not the same as an Ultracap and wont work for this experiment with the standard Jt . It might work if i wind another toroid with MORE windings so to increase the time it ran . i don't know . more test on the tiny S caps are needed but it appears in this setup NO they do not reach Over the Unity of the run cap nor does it reach Unity either .Most of you have Supercaps and you can verify my findings with these .

@ Pirate Congrats on your Thread hitting 1000 PAGES !!! It will now take months to read this entire Thread  I am all for another thread SSJT . This is getting Big time now that i am producing HEAT and Light from a single cell . heck now that you know we can run Nichrome Elements i bet you anything you  can so the same from your power from the Earth Battery . 4 sure . Iwas Just repeating this experiment for ist and of coarse By accident discovered HEAT !! FIRE  and LIGHT at the same time .. ) More later stay Tuned Gang!  Someone replicate this to Double Confirm Please . 


Gadget

[jeanna]

... I discharged it to 1 volt using a small Nicrome heater element which glowed brightly for 4 and a half minutes before the cap reached 1 volt . I lit a cig with it and it was HOT!!!!!!!!! I could have tripled the Nichrome wire coil and got about 15 minutes short before i hit one volt and that my friends is pure AMPS .I may be the First one in history to actually make a heater from a Jt and a BCap . running from an aa battery :
...
 SOMEONE replicate this Please . below is the Diagram for the AA setup . It also puts an excess voltage out on the secondary and provides Light and Heat .I am going to improve the JT circuit with bigger torroids and more wire soon . All 1 volt system

Gadget

Gadget, this is brilliant!

I want to replicate this, of course.
Thank you for the description and the drawing.

Now, the question is what is nichrome wire? and mostly, WHERE do I find it?
Is it from an old heater from the thrift store?

Bravo and
thank you,

jeanna

[stprue]

Well Experiment 3 is finished . the run cap stopped at 0.521 volts thus the silicon 2n2222a limits . the charge cap reached 1.015 volts . So conclusion is a "supercap " is not the same as an Ultracap and wont work for this experiment with the standard Jt . It might work if i wind another toroid with MORE windings so to increase the time it ran . i don't know . more test on the tiny S caps are needed but it appears in this setup NO they do not reach Over the Unity of the run cap nor does it reach Unity either .

@ Pirate Congrats on your Thread hitting 1000 PAGES !!! It will now take months to read this entire Thread  I am all for another thread SSJT . This is getting Big time now that i am producing HEAT and Light from a single cell . heck now that you know we can run Nichrome Elements i bet you anything you  can so the same from your power from the Earth Battery . 4 sure . Iwas Just repeating this experiment for ist and of coarse By accident discovered HEAT !! FIRE  and LIGHT at the same time .. ) More later stay Tuned Gang!  Someone replicate this to Double Confirm Please . 


Gadget

Thanks for the info's and the time it took to upload the pic 

[resonanceman]

Gadget, this is brilliant!


Now, the question is what is nichrome wire? and mostly, WHERE do I find it?
Is it from an old heater from the thrift store?

Jeanna

That would do it .

An old toaster would work too .

gary

[gadgetmall]

Gadget

I would like to see  you  add a secondary and move  your  heater circuit to that secondary ..... it should  be  even more efficient .

gary

I will after i complete the test on a STANDARD  joule thief with a 22 turn secondary  i will improve this . This is a test Ist asked meto do and post using a NORMAL jt . I just added the 22 turn secondary to see it in operation and running 2  .5 watt leds.they did not increase the current draw and actually increased the c e voltage  . I have a much better set up i used months ago but i didn't go into detail like this . a better Jt and transistor will charge this Bcap up in 8 hours exactly like the CIS solar panel . 8 hours of sunlight will charge the 650f cap up so close to full 2.5.  2.6 v . Well i see you got a few . i have 35 left and thats it for a while on the 650f until mid next year .Unless an one wants to buy 2 pallets of them . 200,000 pieces . I cannot at this time .

[stprue]

I thought that this type of material was an amp eater working solely on high resistence to creat heat!  If that is the case then this would be the most efficient toaster I have ever seen!  People am I wrong on this?

[gadgetmall]

Gadget, this is brilliant!

I want to replicate this, of course.
Thank you for the description and the drawing.

Now, the question is what is nichrome wire? and mostly, WHERE do I find it?
Is it from an old heater from the thrift store?

Bravo and
thank you,

jeanna

Yep an old heater that the motor burned up in and burnt out . I save everything . you can also buy it here real cheap . http://jacobs-online.biz/nichrome_wire.htm
i just bought 100 feet of #36 for 6 dollars including shipping also ! The wire off the old heater might be around 24 or something bigger .
An i had another thought about Heat . Using a Peltier Module or a group o fthem we could have heat and cold . I have some somewhere around here . Its another experiment for another day .

Gadget

[Pirate88179]

Jeanna:

You can get nichrome wire at electrical supply places on the net.  Also, they use this wire in the igniters for Estes model rockets available at hobby supply places.  Just make sure to scrape off the phosporous like coating that flares up to start the engine first, or it will ignite and burn the wire in half.  I think I have a roll of that wire around here somewhere, left over from my ceramic machining days.

@ Gadget:

Thank you.  Wow, 1,000 pages, we actually made it.  I believe this is an OU.com record, or at least it should be.  Nice work on the heater discovery.  Now Jeanna can make her toaster...and I'll bet she does.  This is really fantastic.

@ All:

We have hit 1,000 pages and are nearing 10,000 posts!!!!

This has been a phenomenal journey to see where we all started, and where we are now.  For me, personally, I have learned so much about electronics in general and joule thief circuits and supercaps specifically, than I could have ever learned in this short a time period anywhere else.  I want to thank each and every person who has ever posted here and, of course, all of the regular group that has contributed and shared so many wonderful experiments, devices and ideas.  Thank you all!
Also, thanks to Stefan for putting this great site up and for all of his hard work in keeping it going.  Thank you Stefan.

Bill

[Mk1]

@pirate


Do you want to make us a new home , New Tread ...

Lets call it something like the second stage jt ( SSJT for short ).

I would do it my self , but you did such a good job so far , and are endeavors fruitful ...

Congrats everyone !
 

Mark

[Pirate88179]

@ mark:

Thank you very much.  I would be happy to if that is what everyone wants.  I am not sure I understand the reason for it though unless it is because any newcomers will have a heat attack when they see they need to read 1,000 pages to get going.  Is this why?

Otherwise, I see no problem in discussing the SSJT experiments here.  It is up to all you guys, whatever the group wants to do is fine with me, and, if the group wants me to start it, I can do that, or someone else can.  Except for a few photo sizing corrections and removal of a post or two by the poster's request, I have not had to do any real moderating here at all, but I am glad Stefan allows me to be able to do that on some of the topics I have started.

What does everyone think?

Bill

[Pirate88179]

10,000th post!!!

Bill

[stprue]

Good idea Mk1, how about...

JT2000

[Mk1]

@pirate

I guess you didn't read my previous post on it , i gave more reasons for it ...

Ist and Gadget seem to like the idea.

Look at the post from today , we posted at about the same time , and the page changed .

This would conclude the first chapter , it would also be easier for new comers .

And we could take i little time to re aim and built on the basic idea .

Make it a jt world , lol

Mark 

[gadgetmall]

Shoot !!!! Sometime today the kitten jumped on the Experiment 2 part two and disconnected the charge bcap SOOOOO. i'll see if it will go O U from the run @1.389 and the charge is @ 1176      This will be a good test as a few milli volts are wasted along with the time . AHHH  its 4:45 start again from here . If it goes to 2.4 to 2.6 i will be very happy ! I think it might ! 


gadget

[guruji]

HI Gadgetmall very interesting about the heater. Even a water heater would work with your circuit you're mentioning? It would be a very good invention man
About the cap can one use a smaller one or a DC one?
Thanks man keep on with the good work.