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nievesoliveras

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #270 on: February 20, 2009, 02:39:36 AM »
@all

A long time ago I found these circuits on the internet. I dont remember where I got them.
But they are related to switching the batteries.
I tried the one with the two diodes but I had not good luck with it.
The other one is to difficult to implement.
Maybe someone has a better idea or maybe someone can make one of these to work.

Jesus
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #270 on: February 20, 2009, 02:39:36 AM »
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« Reply #271 on: February 20, 2009, 01:22:13 PM »
Eureka!!!

First I took one old battery that has .92v without a load. when I connected it to the new toroid the output was 15v and the battery lowered to .36v. I added one of my camera's batteries and it recharged it without the source battery running down. then I added to the source another old battery parallel that has a voltage .74v without load. when I connected it to the circuit in parallel it went down to .36v , just like the other one.

I then used a four battery holder and put my 4 AAA batteries to charge with the circuit connected to the pulse motor and the motor not running. As a test I gave a turn to the rotor and the pulse motor began to spin fast. After a while I stopped the motor and let the batteries recharging overnight.

The battery pack voltage the next day was 5.23V. That was marvelous. And the source battery was .35v. That was incredible!
Very happy I took two batteries out and after measuring their voltage (1.35v) I put them on my camera to take a photo of the new toroid and the circuit variation I had done. The camera went on and then suddenly went off. All the batteries combinations did the same and i got frustrated and posted my conclusion.
Then @pirate reminded me of the preparation that bedini use to do to its charged batteries and I promised to do a test of charging and discharging the batteries in order to give them the bedini treatment.

After having the batteries with the pulse motor not running to reach the voltage of 5.10v with the new circuit variation. I turned the rotor to get the motor going and went to sleep.

In the morning the motor was still running, the battery pack was 4.45v and the source batteries were .35v.

I added a diode to the rectifier with the 13 turns secondary, pointing its cathode to the four batteries pack positive and the batteries pack voltage increased to 4.46v and while I am writing this it is still running fast and the source batteries is still .35v

This is a successful test!!!!  An accidental discovery!

My first successful test on a long time since I started the thread and long before.


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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #271 on: February 20, 2009, 01:22:13 PM »

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #272 on: February 20, 2009, 01:26:27 PM »
@all

I would like to give credit to all those people that in one way or another has helped us on this thread.

@cap-z-ro, @ramset, @innovation-station, @spinner, @abbarue, @pirate88179, @goat, @gadgetmall, @hartiberlin, @guruji, @gyulasun, @mvmcman, @thaelin,
To all the team from @pirate's thread I take my hat off before you all.

Also I would like to give credit to:
@tropes, @mk1 and @sandwichx.

Also I would like to give credit to:
@xenomorphlabs, @tagor, @rensseak, @yucca, @jadaro2600

And if you think that you should also be mentioned here, The thanks go to you too.

Jesus
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #273 on: February 20, 2009, 02:00:12 PM »

Congrats with your successful advancement on your charging circuit jesus...your determination is truly inspiring.

It will be interesting to see what this develops into.

Have you tried any type of load on the motor yet ?

Regards...

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #273 on: February 20, 2009, 02:00:12 PM »

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« Reply #274 on: February 20, 2009, 02:23:27 PM »
@capzro

No I have not. But my brother gave me two air core coils. One is broken, but I will repair it and I will test if the motor stops if I put one of them on top of the pulse motor to capture energy with a rectifier.  In other words as a rectified pickup coil.

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« Reply #275 on: February 20, 2009, 02:35:18 PM »
@capzro

I made a quick test wit one of the coils. I put it over the motor with a meter attached reading ac voltage and it gives 1.31v ac as output.

By the way the battery voltage of the battery pack is now 4.49v

So this is incredible!!!!!!!!!

And the source batteries in parallel voltage is now .36v

Marvelous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus
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« Reply #275 on: February 20, 2009, 02:35:18 PM »
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #276 on: February 20, 2009, 04:16:41 PM »
@capzro

I made a quick test wit one of the coils. I put it over the motor with a meter attached reading ac voltage and it gives 1.31v ac as output.

By the way the battery voltage of the battery pack is now 4.49v

So this is incredible!!!!!!!!!

And the source batteries in parallel voltage is now .36v

Marvelous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus
congrats Jesus !!! . I was trying to point you to that secret at in My last post but i see you picked up on it :) Now you know you Must Give the Exact Schematic with the windings of you Newman . Good Job . you got it .

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #276 on: February 20, 2009, 04:16:41 PM »

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« Reply #277 on: February 20, 2009, 04:31:15 PM »
Yeah, nice work Jesus! :)

Can't wait to see the schematic and watch the confirmed replications
pile up ;D

Kind regards,
Koen
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #277 on: February 20, 2009, 04:31:15 PM »

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« Reply #278 on: February 20, 2009, 05:48:39 PM »
Wonderfull job guys.

Would someone please post the latest schematics necessary to replicate this without having to read 28 pages of docs? Or may be ask Stefan (the admin) to create on the first page a post that is always updated with the latest so that one can always go to that first page and get it all so that WE ALL can replicate while this will still allow the history of the whole thread to be intact.

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #278 on: February 20, 2009, 05:48:39 PM »

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« Reply #279 on: February 20, 2009, 06:20:50 PM »
Way to go nievesoliveras !!!  Congradulations  :)

@ plengo , I've mentioned the "post the latest schematics on the first page" in other threads, that's something that's sorely lacking on this forum except for the odd thread that has it....it would make a world of difference, especially for long threads such as the JT.

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #279 on: February 20, 2009, 06:20:50 PM »
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #280 on: February 20, 2009, 08:08:56 PM »
@all

I will not make you suffer. It is a pleasure to share this information.

But before I have to explain the heart of the circuit.
The toroid: It is a medium toroidal ferrite from Electronic Goldmine. Part # G6683 Pkg of 5 $1.00

The primary wire is an aluminum covered strand that is bifilar from a computer cable with the number:
AWM E101344 Style 2990

The secondary that is optional, is 30 AWG magnetic wire

The Pulse motor transistor is 2N2222
The Joule thief transistor is 2N4401

The Diodes are 1N60
The optional rectifier is a G1113 from Goldmine

Both the resistors are 100 ohm
The capacitors one is electrolitic 2200uf 50v
The other is ceramic 473z 25v

The potentiometer is 10k
There is a neon bulb and a red LED on the Bedini circuit

The Newman coil has two coils of 700 turns each of 30 AWG magnet wire

The diode comming from the pulse motor circuit is not used. If connected the motor stops.

I do expect that everybody can make a successful replication!!!!!

Jesus
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #280 on: February 20, 2009, 08:08:56 PM »

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« Reply #281 on: February 20, 2009, 08:32:06 PM »
@ nievesoliveras
great work man.  Now, forgive me to ask a little bit more. Can you post a fresh picture of the setup and show where the charging batteries would be connected?

Many thanks,

Fausto.
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« Reply #281 on: February 20, 2009, 08:32:06 PM »

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« Reply #282 on: February 20, 2009, 08:42:18 PM »
Great news Jesus, congratulations! The results sound very good.
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #283 on: February 20, 2009, 09:24:46 PM »
@ nievesoliveras
great work man.  Now, forgive me to ask a little bit more. Can you post a fresh picture of the setup and show where the charging batteries would be connected?

Many thanks,

Fausto.

@plengo

I have to get some courage to disconnect the charging batteries from the circuit and take some photos. I am afraid that the motor stop and never again work. As the fan charger I built last year.

When I got the courage to stop the pulse motor I will take some photos. Or wait till I can buy some new batteries and leave that motor running without disturbing it.

It is that is so fulfilling to see the motor with the charging batteries slowly fluctuating between 4.43 volts and 4.49 volts while keeping the source parallel batteries fluctuating between .35 volts and .36 volts.

On the meantime be pleased with this schematic with the charging batteries on their right place.

By the way, the photo maybe will not be that sophisticated, it is the same motor with some changes on it.

I will read the camera instructions to see if it can be used with the computer to take photos without having to buy a new pack of batteries. 

Thank you to all well wishers !!!

Jesus
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #283 on: February 20, 2009, 09:24:46 PM »

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« Reply #284 on: February 20, 2009, 10:41:53 PM »

Congratulation!

You are a hard worker , and you did a great job! Some would has stopped way before , but not you , real good you did and shared all the way , Good bless you , my friend!

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