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[ramset]

HERES THE MAN WOODPECKER

YES Thank you Sir

You are right and copper is not the best choice for catalysis

Beautiful flame

 And I know you are a true member Helping the world

Let us build this wonderful idea right here with all to share

Chet

[pmazz850]

They are using KOH.

[albator10]

Hi Woodpecker !

Very nice flame !

Could you share info about your system?

I would like to be able to have a flame like yours.

Thank's

[ramset]

Pmaz

Thanks

Then they are poisoning themselves[and all their customers ]

 With either Chlorine gas or carbon monoxide[I forget which right now]

That system needs to be vented [not possible with current design]

WE WILL DO BETTER

Chet

[hartiberlin]

@woodpecker
nice flame,
how do you generate this HHO with how much Watts ?

So what happens if you blow it in front of some copper tubes?

Is there the effect of enhanced heat output from the tubes ?

It seems they might use the effect for blowing more wind out of the tubes,
because they don´t put the flame directly into one copper tube.

As there is air sucked in this way from the side, it might have an additional
heating effect ??! Who knows....

At least I know, if you blow with your mouth directly into a long tube
you will not get as much air out of the tube as if you blow with your
mouth about 2 cms in front of the same tube.
Then you will get much more air out of it at the end of the tube.

This might have an effect over here with this device and the heating...?!

Regards, Stefan.

[pmazz850]

I just experimented with the copper tube heat exchanger and my little HHO torch and it does produce a fair amount of heat. I got the tubes to 160 degrees in about 20-30 minutes with a 1 inch flame. and when you lightly blow through the tubes it puts heat out the back of the pipes. I like the heat exchanger. Simple yet effective!   

[pmazz850]

Ramset,
 What produces poisonous gas? I've never heard anything about burning hydrogen and giving off poisonous gas. With some simple mods the system could be vented. 

[ramset]

PMAZ

If you use an electrolyte  you are not using pure water

And you get poisons

Yes venting is required

 Chet

[woodpecker]

@hartiberlin,  as i sad, i needed about 260 Watt for about 3 liters.
I can produce the gas with my drycell which i introduced in the "Drycell goes to Austria" thread.
I wrote there in Oktober, that the cell reaches values over faraday.

For this heater, i already cutted some copper tubes, to try it out. I will write soon about the exteriment.

@ albator 10, in the copper tube there is just steelwool, ( it should be bronzewoll but i could not find that) very pressed, and a little bit of water,i saw this in a video at youtube, and it seems, it works, you would need about 3 liters of gas /min. The more gas the better. I have two bubblers für security reasons.
You can find hundreds of videos at youtube

[ramset]

All the link to Woodpeckers thread

          http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5788.40;topicseen

                        Chet

[helmut]

Certainly a good idea, to diffuse the great heat of the HHO flame with these coppertubes.
For me it does not look,as they need so much gas.
Have a look at my picture of a HHO flame and compare it. For this flame i had about 3 l/min 260Watt

woodpecker

This is a very impressive flame.
With 260 Watt 

Das ist echt eine dicke Flamme
Komm bitte mal nach Overunity.de
Dort ist die Heizung ebenfalls ein Thema.

helmut

[pmazz850]

The only thing I've ever read about poison being given off, is if you use water with chlorine in it. What if you use distilled water?

PMAZ

If you use an electrolyte  you are not using pure water

And you get poisons

Yes venting is required

 Chet

[hartiberlin]

I just experimented with the copper tube heat exchanger and my little HHO torch and it does produce a fair amount of heat. I got the tubes to 160 degrees in about 20-30 minutes with a 1 inch flame. and when you lightly blow through the tubes it puts heat out the back of the pipes. I like the heat exchanger. Simple yet effective!   

Does the flame put more heat out with the copper pipes than without them ?

What about putting stainless steel wool into them ?

Will this absorb the heat better and produce more heat output ?

[pmazz850]

Didn't try the steel wool. I don't think you'll really need it. Its pretty effective. With a normal size torch flame they will give off alot of heat. My torch only gives off about a one inch flame. I will try a bigger flame and post back.

[Mark69]

This is a great thread.  What about using aluminum pipes?  Or would they melt?

@Broli and Chet, I am in too, if you want to put a collection pot together.

Mark