Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

Custom Search

[steve_chow]

@ Hans von Lieven

Mylow replication looks real,
but again i have to convice myself with my won replication.
so now I am  try to find Channel magnet for rotor , may be I have to get it from China...
please find my rotor Assembly for HJ motor,
now I am thinking install 1/4' bar magnet around circumference of the rotor with 2 circle..with 1/2' apart...
using same pattern as Mr.Mylow but on drum instead of disk.
Any advice will be helpfull...
regards
Chow

[robbie47]

Studying Howard Johnson's book The secret world of magnets I came across the drawing below. It shows the magnetic orientation of the C shaped magnets he was so fond of. Surprisingly they are not magnetised like a horseshoe magnet.

Of Significance? I don't know. Worth knowing though.

Hans von Lieven

Also depicted in Science, spring 1980: http://www.newebmasters.com/freeenergy/sm-pg47.html

[hansvonlieven]

Yes, same orientation, not C shaped though.

Hans von Lieven

[sterlinga]

I spoke with Mylow this morning,

He has his rotor magnets put back on the disc.

He said that even though his iron stator magnet is very weak, it still turns the rotor a few revolutions.

I encouraged him to shoot a video.

He's very anxious to find a good stator magnet.

I suggested that if people want to send him magnets to try in the stator position, of different sizes, strength, that they could send them to me, and I can forward them on to him.

He said that would be fine.  He'd be glad to give them a whirl.

Here's my address:
Mylow Magnet
c/o PES Network, Inc.
4157 N. West Pinion Cir.
Eagle Mountain, UT 84005
1-801-407-1292

I'm going to be gone until Friday, but my wife said she could forward them while I'm gone.

If you want to send some $ to cover postage, you can send it by PayPal to orders@pureenergysystems.com , or include a check in the box.

I ordered the following from www.allmagnetics.com and had them shipped to Mylow to arrive by the end of the day Wednesday

HS90 and HS811N

Sterling

[hansvonlieven]

I don't know what the big deal is with the stator magnet.

When we were kids we played around with magnets a lot. Since we didn't have any money we made our own. We took a piece of steel and a strong magnet borrowed from somewhere and simply stroked the steel with one pole of the magnet over and over again always in the same direction. See drawing below.

After a while the steel bar turned into quite a passable magnet. There was no obvious depletion in the master magnet even after we made dozens of them.

Since we are dealing with fairly weak magnets anyway why does Mylow not re-energise his stator magnet the same way?

Hans von Lieven

[slapper]

The following image is a HS811N or very close.
From what I can tell it's about 0.14" longer than MyLow's iron stator magnet.
The compass doesn't really show the pole coming off the edge in this magnet as opposed to what MyLow showed with his.
The pole seems to be coming off some where in between the tangent line of the radius and the edge.
If I get a rig built I'll do some field strength measurements with my gauss meter.

Take care.

nap

[wattsup]

Here is a good resource on magnets, choose catalog7 here;
http://www.magnetsales.com/Info_R2.htm

@steve_chow

I am not ready yet to answer that "sticky" question.

I have asked Mylow on his last Utube video to try and do a test to lift as much iron as he can with his rotor magnet to at least get an idea on pull strength. May not be the best scientific way but could not figure out anything simpler or more precise.

If you look on page 49 of the above catalog, you will notice their channel magnets have pull going from 10 to 85 pounds. I want to wait and see if Mylow can give us an idea on his pull number.

There are so many types and sizes. One has something but lacks something else. One main criteria that I am looking at is the distance between the protrusions or the length of the cavity. The cavity has to be pronounced and in many offerings, the cavity is way to short to emulate Mylows. So I am still out on the rotor magnet question.

So there is the question of rotor magnet dimensions, cavity length and pull force and maybe once these have been decided then and only then can all these determine the actual wheel diameter and magnet spacings. If there are any math guys here that can work out Mylows'  rotor magnet and wheel relationships to come up with some magical formula, then this could be used to make any sized wheel. Hmmmm.

But I could not resist and just found a nice aluminum pizza pan 15.5" in diameter ($13cdn) that I will use as a first start build. I know it is smaller then Mylows by 2" but I will compensate with less rotor sets. I am plotting the positioning for that. I will probably use the lower part of a swivel office chair legs and shaft as the base. Like I said I want to approach this with baby steps and learn all the way through.

As for the stators you made, if they are magnetized through the length, they look really great and as Hans has said, like the HJ. I have tried to find stator magnets and have not found them yet. I am inclined to think that the most realistic ready made stator magnet will be a good size horseshoe magnet that I will have to cut the stems down to size to have a more wider field spread and still have that north/south through the width.

So I am still out on final choices. If Mylow can give us an idea on pull force of the rotor, this will give me a final direction.

wattups

[TheNOP]

http://www.keelynet.com/ohsako/ohsako.htm
I find all of it rather interesting, maybe it can help someone.

now i have the answares to my questions.
thanks.

good studies replicaters.

[robbie47]

A suggestion to Mylow to 'repair' his stator magnet in a simple way:

Just stick a small magnet at the back of the iron, in the center, north facing one end of the horseshoe, south facing the other end of the horseshoe iron.
I think this will extend the north and south pole to the end of the demagnetized iron

See attached pdf to explain my suggestion by a drawing of this principle

[corona]

It's not particularily interesting, but here's the first step of my replication.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBlruIyReRQ

Andrew

[jibbguy]

That's an interesting trick Robbie, & thanks for sharing it, but didn't MYLOW say that his stator mags are polarized with the "N" at the open ends of the "U" or "C" ; with the closed "wide" end being "South" (.. so both forks of the "U" are "North's") ?

[robbie47]

That's an interesting trick Robbie, & thanks for sharing it, but didn't MYLOW say that his stator mags are polarized with the "N" at the open ends of the "U" or "C" ; with the closed "wide" end being "South" (.. so both forks of the "U" are "North's") ?

I am not sure about that. But in that case, just turn the magnet 90 degrees 

Again, attached a pdf that indicates my intended solution (part of the horseshoe will also be North, but this was too hard to draw in a quick way)

[edit] The attached magnet should have similar dimensions as the original horseshoe magnet.
Since Mylow has plenty of space behind this stator magnet that should not be a problem

[steve_chow]

@wattsup
Hi

thanks for reply...
My stator magnet magnetize through length, I am also trying to replicate Mylow setup...
regards

Chow

[carbonc_cc]

Got some more parts.
Aluminum disk (pan)
simple rotor assembly
A real "C" magnet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XYmF2gQsv0


My next 3 videos are currently uploading.  They have some quick testing and compass readings. 

[wattsup]

We had already noticed the winding sound that was also mixed in with the cars and trucks passing by Mylows place while he made that video. We requested that he show the base being taken apart and he did most graciously just to cover all the bases. At this point there is absolutely no basis for any inferences to fakery and any such allusion is purely coming from guys that have not either read this thread, which is long because of all the unnecessary crap or just can't understand that a wheel that made as many turns as Mylows already did is more then enough to show it is not a slated disk or any other form of trickery. The guy is as straight and upfront as anyone could be under the circumstances.

@steve_chow

Nice set-up indeed. Don't forget one major thing about the stator. If I remember correctly Mylow said the stator has to be wide enough to cover two rotors plus two spaces in between the rotors, so the stator is actually riding on two rotors separated by one rotor. If the stator does not work, someone already mentioned a good idea to use two coils that could be mounted on a protractor type angler and by playing with the dc voltage and the angle, this could help find the best stator make-up. If I am mistaken please someone correct me.