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Author Topic: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model  (Read 29806 times)

WattBuilder

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2009, 04:36:53 PM »
Cloxxki,
Thanks for offering to help and for realizing that I’m doing this alone.
The hard part is over now as I’m in the phase now of trying to get as much people to understand as possible.

Cheers
Howard
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2009, 04:36:53 PM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2009, 04:39:45 PM »
@All

Here’s my update.

I have now made the decision to put a hold on using the tail vane method to orientate the drive magnet. It’s taking me longer then I have planned. The things that I am running into going this route are lack of access to better materials and better tools.

I know that there are going to be some readers who will have a harder time understanding when I revert back to the use of the servo method.

The full understanding of the ability to scale and its effects is something that one may have to figure out. As my knowledge came from working in the field of the Automation Industry. I will do my best to help those understand.

For now I want to clear up the “step” function of my drive magnet’s position. Before I put up additional videos of the YOG.

You may have notice on my previous video that the drive magnet is offset from the centerline of the lever. The reasoning for that position is to allow for the step in a cycle to take place while also orientating the drive magnet. This function allows for “walking” or “climbing” how every you like to view it.
 
This makes it possible to add on top of the gain kinetic energy. Resulting in the lever getting lower and lower and the weight lifting higher and higher.

One can compare it to traveling up a flight of stairs or a truck bumper jack lifting a car.

It would be great if the magnetic array has a knob where you can turn up the magnetic energy for every cycle pass, but apparently magnets aren’t made that way.

The value of energy from the magnetic array is fixed. Depending on your array set up. So that’s why we need to add the “step” function.

Hopefully in the coming days I will be posting a new video where you can see the YOG in action with a servo.

Howard
My one cycle video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k
 
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2009, 04:39:45 PM »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2009, 05:40:51 PM »
Good luck with the servo method Howard.  I think you made a wise decision to go with a method you are confidant you can make work (perfection is the enemy of the possible).  If you use a servo but can still demonstrate continuous acceleration until load is attached, you will have convinced me the concept works (not sure how much that matters).  Best wishes.  Like cloxxki I also wish I could physically help you as your device shows promise.  Following your updates closely, thanks.
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #78 on: October 27, 2009, 06:15:49 PM »
Spoondini,

I think you will like this next video then.

Cheers
Howard
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #78 on: October 27, 2009, 06:15:49 PM »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #79 on: October 27, 2009, 06:16:53 PM »
@All

Well ……..  I’m done.

Here’s the gain proof video with servo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5r08eqgsk

The input is about 1.3 Watts for 2 seconds to turn the servo per cycle.
I used a Doc Wattson meter

The circumference that will drive the turbine measured about 343 to 354 Revs/Min. I started at the 10 o’clock position and let it swing one cycle. The tachometer used is an Ametek 1726 and was measured by placing the wheel on the meter up agents the circumference.


Howard
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2009, 10:01:34 PM »
Holy $$$$T.  You've done it Howard!  I see continuous acceleration!

I have never, I mean NEVER seen anybody actually pull off OU in these boards.  Unless you're hiding a motor or electro mags, this is the real deal. 

As you've stated, the servo can be replaced with some engineering tweeking to run completely non-electric.  I'm sure the torque can be increased through some trial/error in the mag arrays.  I think you've done it man.

All bow to our savior Howard!

PS - I think there were some earlier posts on this thread that need a plate of crow served up.......
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« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2009, 10:01:34 PM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #81 on: October 27, 2009, 10:17:48 PM »
Nice indeed, you pulled out that servo installation pretty quickly. I bet this will catch some attention, remember to give assistance to replicators and ignore the skeptics.
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« Reply #81 on: October 27, 2009, 10:17:48 PM »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model / IT WORK'S
« Reply #82 on: October 27, 2009, 10:34:36 PM »
Wow Howard
Looks like it works, the more swings the more power, fantastic work  ;D ;D
Are you going to apply for the Overunity prize ? [when it runs itself and produces power]

I wonder if a small-scale version can be built ?
Where are all those people that spent their time on the Mylow Motor,
looks like it's time for another replication

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model / IT WORK'S
« Reply #82 on: October 27, 2009, 10:34:36 PM »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #83 on: October 27, 2009, 10:51:42 PM »
Howard what's your take on putting this system horizontally without the pendulum concept. Surely if there's excess force in one direction it should accelerate horizontally as well unless the pendulum is a secret ingredient. The biggest advantage would be not having to flip the magnet around.
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #83 on: October 27, 2009, 10:51:42 PM »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #84 on: October 28, 2009, 12:34:55 AM »
Howard and Ladies and Gentlemen:

You really have to look at all angles before you claim victory.  All that you are looking at here is the equivalent of a child shifting his weight on a swing so that he can swing higher and higher.  Howard's rotating servo mechanism is the equivalent of the child shifting his position on the swing.

Therefore, the energy source that is making the oscillator swing higher and higher is the battery pack that is affixed to the pendulum.

Here is the test that Howard should have done to double check his results:  Remove the magnet array and start the pendulum and make the servo system go back and forth just like he does in his clip.  You will see the pendulum swing higher and higher, confirming that the moving servo itself is what is adding energy to the swinging pendulum.  What is making the servo go back and forth?  The answer is the batteries.

The reason the pendulum swings higher and higher is because chemical energy in the batteries is being transformed into more mechanical energy being stored in the swinging pendulum.

You guys have got to put on your thinking caps.

MileHigh
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #84 on: October 28, 2009, 12:34:55 AM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #85 on: October 28, 2009, 12:49:18 AM »
Howard and Ladies and Gentlemen:

You really have to look at all angles before you claim victory.  All that you are looking at here is the equivalent of a child shifting his weight on a swing so that he can swing higher and higher.  Howard's rotating servo mechanism is the equivalent of the child shifting his position on the swing.

Therefore, the energy source that is making the oscillator swing higher and higher is the battery pack that is affixed to the pendulum.

Here is the test that Howard should have done to double check his results:  Remove the magnet array and start the pendulum and make the servo system go back and forth just like he does in his clip.  You will see the pendulum swing higher and higher, confirming that the moving servo itself is what is adding energy to the swinging pendulum.  What is making the servo go back and forth?  The answer is the batteries.

The reason the pendulum swings higher and higher is because chemical energy in the batteries is being transformed into more mechanical energy being stored in the swinging pendulum.

You guys have got to put on your thinking caps.

MileHigh

I partially agree. It's not a battery pack it's the magnet itself. To get rid of this argument it should be centered or even moved to the other side so that it technicality loses energy every cycle. But that doesn't explain the previous video which was centered  ;) .
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #85 on: October 28, 2009, 12:49:18 AM »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2009, 12:53:27 AM »
@milehigh,
     Good observation. I watched the video again and the megnetic array is not perfectly centered, this could indeed be the cause of acceleration.  The center of gravity does appear to shift.  My jury just went back to deliberation.  I've been meaning to make a 1/100th scale of this thing, pure mechanical to validate but time is hard to come by.
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« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2009, 12:53:27 AM »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2009, 01:36:10 AM »
@spoondini,
I got your message but computer froze everytime I tried to reply. Easy to email me markdansie@bigpond.com
Kind Regards
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #88 on: October 28, 2009, 02:25:04 AM »
Well, very good !
Congratulations !
Can you get the energy out of the magnet array at the top via coils to turn the drive magnet to get rid of batteries all in all ?
Then it would be the real breakthrough, if you could show this without batteries.

To turn the magnet by 180 degrees should not take much energy and could probably be made also mechanically somehow..
Looking forward to see an update.
I will put this onto the news.

Regards, Stefan.
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« Reply #88 on: October 28, 2009, 02:25:04 AM »

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #89 on: October 28, 2009, 03:51:26 AM »
use a really loose bearing in place of the servo. as the arm falls to one side so should the top magnet support.

something like this;
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