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Author Topic: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine  (Read 27860 times)

hartiberlin

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New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« on: January 02, 2010, 03:18:36 AM »
Hi All,
have a look at this magnetic perpetual motion device over here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHVBu77jz4w

It is a backup copy of:

/watch?v=SZjNbjhxgt4

in case the original author would pull it off youtube.

So, is this a fake or is this genuine ?

Please post  your  comments.

And Happy New Year 2010  to ALL !

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New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« on: January 02, 2010, 03:18:36 AM »
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 03:37:41 AM »
All the complaining I do about plexiglass, and then I come across this machine, and wish it had been made out of just that.

This thread has a partner thread here; http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8555.0;topicseen

TIming on the machine seems strange, the looseness seems to play a good part in it..if there's no hidden features.
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 03:37:41 AM »

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 03:37:46 AM »
So, is this a fake or is this genuine ?
looks very fine to me.

it must be easy to replicate
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2010, 04:02:44 AM »
Hi Stefan,
first on behalf of many people here happy new year and thank you for providing us this forum. i know you and I do not always get along , but the fact you allow a diverse amount of opinions here does you credit.
I like this device and at first look it is both simple and logical. As you know I have been searching for a device that just runs on magnets and never found one. The main reason I want to find one is to see if the magnets show any loss of power over time. (my theory is they would)
the other thing I like at first sight is it is easy to replicate. It would also be able to be scaled up easily and possibly be able to generate some additional power.
You are always full of suprises finding these things and I am sure this is not another Mylow.
however, like most things we will need to do a full analyses including mechanical but at this stage I have a big smile on my face. I give this a big thumbs up as apposed to Steorn.
i will certainly be watching this one with interest, even from just a novelty perspective.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2010, 04:02:44 AM »

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2010, 04:15:49 AM »

But can it tell the time of day ?

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2010, 05:17:50 AM »
Hmm?
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2010, 05:37:34 AM »
Before anybody spends any money on this request a video at least a couple hours long. This one is not long enough to prove anything.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      To Markdansie: magnets do lose strength over time. As for neodymium they lose one percent every ten years. If you are talking about degaussing when the same poles are facing eachother. Neodymium magnets are the most resistant to degauss.The last five years I have had one hundred neodymium magnets facing the same poles at one eighth of an inch apart and they are at the same strength of my control magnets.                                                                                                                            Most people misscategorize magnet motors as perpetual. perpetual is defined by it has to move for ever. Magnets do not last for ever therefor it can not be perpetual, and if a all magnet motor were to work it would not spin for ever, and that is why the possibility's of a magnet motor does not break any laws under thermodynamics.
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2010, 05:37:34 AM »

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2010, 05:38:39 AM »

The title's: 'Perpetual Motion ?' so the poster makes no claims.

I think it's It's all in fun, more like an 'artistic' effort.

Pendulum-Hoax how-to:
http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1190379491/1

Tony
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2010, 05:38:39 AM »

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2010, 09:00:45 AM »
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2010, 09:00:45 AM »

markdansie

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2010, 10:41:55 AM »
                                                                                                                     To Markdansie: magnets do lose strength over time. As for neodymium they lose one percent every ten years. If you are talking about degaussing when the same poles are facing eachother. Neodymium magnets are the most resistant to degauss.The last five years I have had one hundred neodymium magnets facing the same poles at one eighth of an inch apart and they are at the same strength of my control magnets.                                                                                                                            Most people misscategorize magnet motors as perpetual. perpetual is defined by it has to move for ever. Magnets do not last for ever therefor it can not be perpetual, and if a all magnet motor were to work it would not spin for ever, and that is why the possibility's of a magnet motor does not break any laws under thermodynamics.

Thanks for your reply, it is in line with my thinking that should a device (I have seen many fake attempts)one day come along I am sure what you suggest will hold true. My question i have always asked if used in repulsion can any usable work every be achieved? Like can magnets be used as a form of battery.
To date, my search over many years has resulted in finding a single device that was not faked or needed batteries. The extent some people go is amazing and I have seen well qualified engineers fooled.
I agree that we would need to see a long video and on a glass table with preferably clear plastic structural parts. I do like the elegance of it...nice toy.

Mark
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2010, 10:41:55 AM »
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2010, 12:16:38 PM »
I don't know if this thing is real, but I do know I like it. It could some day replace the desk ball-clacker. (although I'd end up turning the vertical sliding magnets into little fake guillotines. :P)
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2010, 12:16:38 PM »

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2010, 01:59:18 PM »
Pecking birds, pendulums and guillotines?
Did Edgar Allen Poe make this??

I want one :o :o :o

Chet

 
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2010, 01:59:18 PM »

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2010, 05:12:15 PM »
I like it too.

In almost every magnetic effort, everything always comes down to being able to move or shift that one magnet to initiated a cascade of movement. This device joins that principle but all 8 moving magnets sectors working in sync. Very nice approach.

Just wondering if those falling guillotines were heavy enough to cut a carrot. That would then be doing work. lol
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2010, 07:30:16 PM »
Even if it could be a fake, its relaxing to watch.
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2010, 07:32:50 PM »
I like it too.

In almost every magnetic effort, everything always comes down to being able to move or shift that one magnet to initiated a cascade of movement. This device joins that principle but all 8 moving magnets sectors working in sync. Very nice approach.

Just wondering if those falling guillotines were heavy enough to cut a carrot. That would then be doing work. lol
I almost posted this could be a sausace slicer. Carrot would surely be the next level.
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