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[Gauss]

Do you know we have a black pope in this world? Do you think he is a sane good man with a bright mind?

Well he and the other top jesuits are the ones you should look at. Every powerful man since the days of Loyola have known what they are about. See quotes about them below, have a look at Hans von Kolvenbach and read Eric Jon Phelps story about the black pope below. They were expelled from 83 countries in 400 years doing subversive work everywhere. Defined as cunning and deceitful in the dictionaries.

Why has Germany been so stricken in modern history?  Martin Luther opposed the pope and the jesuits have been the catholic revenge on Germany for Luther' s good deeds, putting madmen like Hitler there to destroy them and benefit the jesuits.

Here comes facts as you never have seen them:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm

Do you see the picture of Kolvenbach and the rest?...

Quotes here(you get the picture by now I hope):

http://letsrollforums.com/jesuit-quotes-citations-t14412.html?s=b68ce6747fc4300e6567a8ab7e420f37&

Quote:

"My history of the Jesuits is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities, [and] is very particular and very horrible. Their [the Jesuit Order’s] restoration [in 1814 by Pope Pius VII] is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, despotism, [and] death. … I do not like the appearance of the Jesuits. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of [Ignatius de] Loyola."

John Adams (1735-1826; 2nd President of the United States)

"The Jesuits are a MILITARY organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is power – power in its most despotic exercise – absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man [i.e., the Black Pope, the Superior General of the Jesuits]. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms [sic] – and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses…"

Napoleon Bonaparte(French emperor)


Controlling Obama(Biden is a jesuit and other top US gvmt officials too), Barroso(EU president is jesuit), Putin, China(with hightech weapons etc), UK, France, Italy(surprise), CIA, FBI, MOSSAD, KGB, NSA, NASA, Media, Fed Reserve, Bank of England etc, etc. Stealing FE tech from Keely and Tesla using it for their own purposes during 100 years. Not even mentioning their alliance with the Grays..

The white pope is just taking orders from the black pope using Illuminati, Freemasons, Knights of Malta etc as their slave workers. Who founded Illuminati? The jesuit people!

Surprised by the magnitude of their conspiracy? I was too. Anyway, they are now exposed and the FE experimenters must unite against such primitive people:

“The Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order] is the enemy of man. The whole human race should unite for its overthrow. …For there is no alternative between its total extirpation, and the absolute corruption and degradation of mankind.”
Robert J. Breckinridge (author)

[jikwan]

great post!
these jesuits are given very little attention
but i believe they are the root cause
people are afraid to accuse this evil system because
it appears it is something holy and spiritual

gauss, do you know the name of the jesuit defector
that wrote a description of their system of training up priests?
written about 1960-ive been trying to track it down for a while
ive read it-but id like others to read it too

[Gauss]

Thanks for your encouragement! Imagine all the FE people in here who talk about Illuminati, terrorists, bad food, big oil, big med, CIA, NSA, FBI, Fed Reserve, Bank of England etc etc.

I am surprised so few people bother to read this thread... Well, with time I hope some people wake up(or are they too tired..). Let' s hope some people around the world start seeing truth about why their country is so miserable(ie Germany, USA, Russia, CHina, Italy etc etc) and has such a terrible history.

Well there is just one mastermind/owner of all these things, THE BLACK POPE(Kolvenbach is a satanist well documented on the web too, now he has formally stepped down but controls everything incl new black pope Adolfo Nicolas) and he has alot of grunt slaves in the above mentioned gvmt organizations and Illuminati companies, the slave people think they work for flags and are proud when all they are doing is the evil man' s work. Mind control it is called.

The defector priest was called Alberto Rivera and he was murdered in the 90s I believe. It is enough to read ONE BOOK about the jesuits and then you know all you need to know about their evil deeds. Excluding the alien part of modern jesuits perhaps..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Rivera

Wake up you agency man sitting there printing disinfo on the FE forums, you are just a jesuit controlled mind.

http://www.whale.to/b/sl.html - now you see a bit more, look at the Youtube movie, that is good stuff.

These evil, distorted men are using a good book(the bible) for their evil purposes and you see nothing because they control all the gvmts and all the media, it is too big for most people to conceive what the jesuits are doing because no sane and normal man can identify with such miserable thinking. They are so well planted in every country no matter where you sit they are controlling your country.

You beat them so easily just by doing things open source and ignoring the miserable and enslaved agency people from the discussions.


Spicy quote - Edgar Hoover FBI boss:


"We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them. ... The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst."

Who started communism? Marx, Engels etc, free masons 33rd degree controlled by JESUITS.... The jesuits started the French, Russian and Chinese revolution.... So jesuits control the "world", both sides of every war, just enriching themselves slaughterring innocent people by starting new wars over and over. Moslems are a roman catholic invention, you need two sides to have a war.....

Hence Iraq, Mid East conflicts etc. Btw now US is truly becoming a communist country, and people see nothing.

[jikwan]

gauss, i think we got a dead horse here
spent quite a lot of time and energy on the jesuit system
result of correspondence and discussion is next to nothing
even see on this forum
hardly a mention
but the evidence is very hard black and white
my conclusion after some in depth study of jesuit/catholic system is....
give up any struggle now
we are no match for this established force

your defected priest is not the one im serching
this other one (i search for) reveals their method of training
when read, hair stands on end
the result of jesuit training is:
one can tear an infant apart by pulling on its arms or legs
completly in two
and feel blissfull without slightest remorse
because in doing so one only glorifies the name of god
and the action brings closer the day when all beings are rightfully subservient to god

[nitinnun]

there are 2 main reasons,
why these greedy children,
have been as "successful" as they have been, over the centuries.



1:
secrecy.
they say the opposite of what is true, to preserve secrecy.
(the simplest, yet strongest lie possible !)

and kill without hesitation, to maintain secrecy.
(certain safety, with no chance of repeal)



2:
control.
they automatically seek as much control over others, as possible.
because control makes them able to comfortably live, with their fear and greed.

and because the easiest way to enslave someone without killing them,
is to weaken them as much as possible.
so they cannot overpower the controller.

weaken through
debt,
ignorance,
reduced resources,
psychological manipulation,
malnutrition of the body,
disease of the body,
ineffective medicine,
poisons in the processed mainstream food,
and so on.



currently,
most of the rich and powerful people of the world,
know about these jesuit types.
yet are NOT in alignment with them.

and that isn't including the countless smaller people,
like us,
who know about them.

which means that the jesuits secrecy,
has holes in it,
big enough to walk an elephant through.

and some of their enemies,
are cramming blimps through these holes.
let alone elephants.



the jesuit types control, is in shambles.
the economic system,
that they control everyone with,
is disintegrating at all levels.

they did NOT want the economic collapse stuff, that is happening.
they did NOT plan for it to happen,
as fast and hard as it is happening.

yet they do not know how to stop it.
despite their best attempts.

they are also having a harder and harder time,
getting the rest of the world, to go along with it anymore.
especially getting russian and china, to tolerate them any longer.



the jesuits attempted to destroy both russia and china, through inflation.
followed by capitalism-based economic control systems.

then destroy china,
with hyper-industrialization,
followed by a sudden huge drop in economic demand
(AKA one of the causes of the great depression).


with excessive polluation,
and failed attempts at disease,
at every turn.



yet russia and china,
are just as communist as ever,
in beliefs and in intentions.

yet ironically,
they both give several times more of a damn,
about their populations,
than western capitalists,
give a damn about their populations.

and they don't have nearly as much incentive,
to dumb down and milk their populations,
either.

they can only make 4,000 workers work so hard,
to do a job that requires 400 workers.

so milking a cow as hard as possible,
is a ridiculous joke to them.
when they can just add more cows.



russia and china,
now see north america,
as profoundly vulnerable.

because china has the production ability,
to send 100 million troops,
over the north pole.
and into canada
(if it was willing to let millions of people die.
which unlike the capitalists, it is not willing to let die).



while north america has sent all of its production to china.
and sent all of its equipment and military personel,
to iraq and afghanistan
(and more places).

and spends the rest of its meager production,
unsuccessfully keeping the infrastructure from disintegrating.



the future is bright.
just not like most people expect.

and it is not visible on the news,
or in your backyard.

[jikwan]

over the years ive read many times the catholic church is the
richest organization on the planet
and has 1 billion adherents-more, i think, than any other organization
and hardly a mention on conspiracy forums in general
of course, theres websites specializing anti-catholic/jesuit
jesuit/illuminati are like brother and sister-pretty much the same thing

[Gauss]

Yeah, one should avoid zealotry as in their own book they are just given 3.5 years to rule the world before being cast down to eternal suffering... And mankind is saved by the few that wake up in time. And the new kings will come from the east(200 million supporters and 144 000 elite ones from each tribe). Which recently published self-development movement from the east is about to achieve 200 million supporters right now?......

I guess you must mean Malachi Martin(lots of rumours about him):

Enter the Jesuit
From 1958 until 1964, Malachi Martin served in Rome as a Jesuit priest, where he was a close associate of, and carried out many sensitive missions for, the renowned Jesuit Cardinal Augustin Bea and Popes John XXIII and Paul VI. Released afterwards from his vows of poverty and obedience at his own request (but still a priest), he ultimately moved to New York and became a best-selling writer of fiction and non-fiction.

Martin had first made explicit reference to a diabolic rite held in Rome in his 1990 non-fiction best-seller about geopolitics and the Vatican, The Keys of This Blood, in which he wrote:

Most frighteningly for [Pope] John Paul [II], he had come up against the irremovable presence of a malign strength in his own Vatican and in certain bishops’ chanceries. It was what knowledgeable Churchmen called the ‘superforce.’ Rumors, always difficult to verify, tied its installation to the beginning of Pope Paul VI’s reign in 1963. Indeed Paul had alluded somberly to ‘the smoke of Satan which has entered the Sanctuary’. . . an oblique reference to an enthronement ceremony by Satanists in the Vatican. Besides, the incidence of Satanic pedophilia — rites and practices — was already documented among certain bishops and priests as widely dispersed as Turin, in Italy, and South Carolina, in the United States. The cultic acts of Satanic pedophilia are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the Fallen Archangel’s rites.
(p. 632. Emphasis added)

[sparks]

  I wouldnt trust any government when the first thing you have to do is turn you back on your own humanity.  Just like the muslim terrorists and the US army and all the rest of the control freaks.  They prey on poor neglected abandoned children who get brainwashed into doing hideous acts against other humans.  What a let down when these control freaks cant even control their own bowel movements when they lie in their deathbeds. 

[jikwan]

no, Malachi Martin is not the one either but i could check him out later

the defector was a fully trained preist who described the 4 meditations
which are compulsory training. i would like people to know about this to
know exactly the kind of monster they try to mess with

i will try to remember as much as possible (about 15 years since i read it).......

first the trainee is put in a cell alone and to bring up all the times hes sinned
done wrong/bad things
bring all these things up into conciousness clearly and repeatedly
again and again day after day week after week
or, month after month in solitary confinement-no distractions

the trainer waits. hes looking for signs. theres no way you can fake the signs
the trainee is almost out of his mind-bordering insanity

"i have been a sinner-i have sinned badly"

next he is asked to imagine the afterlife is going to be like for having sinned
so badly. in vivid detail. hell is his only destination

"i am certain im going to burn horribly for this. endlessly"

the trainer looks for the signs. time tested signs. signs of desperation
could take weeks or months

next, he is told there is an anwer. a solution
only god can save him.
hes told to meditate on that
more time passes-and whats the rush?

"god! god can save me. he will save me. but how?"

next, hes told that god can indeed save and forgive
that can only happen when/if you serve him completly. totally.
you think god would forgive your hineous crimes so quickly and easily?

"what must i do for this forgiveness? i will do anything. ANYTHING!"

there! just about ready-might have taken 6 months

hes told that the pope has direct contact with god
he tells his subordinates what god wishes to have done
so when trainee is told to do something-its actually gods orders

everything is done to please god. every deed done takes you nearer
salvation. it is done with joy. with confidence. willingly.

seems like god doesnt like unbelievers very much
every living unbeliever is a threat to believers
if they cant be converted/exploited then must be destroyed

the trainee is give tasks. and he is watched for about 12 years
then he should be ready for some very heavy tasks

starting conflicts/wars supplying arms
accelerating drug use alcoholism/general fear and immorality etc etc

its done with a clear mind. with conviction. remorse is not even a concept

[Gauss]

Jikwan, every time I hear a new story about them there is another one that surpasses every one of the previous..... In fact, these people are possessed by demons and no longer of mankind. They face a future unimaginable.

http://wikicompany.org/wiki/Image:Kolvenbach_weaved_handsign.jpg -  these are the final acts of satanism within the Roman Catholic  church, now it will finally be overthrown, mark my words.

Imagine what happens when the German people realize what was done to them during the last 500 years by these evil men in black robes(well, if they should be called men is another story).... And the American people when they realize what is BEING DONE to them as we speak by their jesuit administration..... And the rest of the world btw...

Anyway, which movement got 100 million supporters in 6 years and was then banned in China? Yes, Falun Gong.
It is based on Truth, Compassion and Forbearance as the only rules to follow. The book is free for download: http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/zflus.html - Zhuan Falun the book is called.

I suggest to everyone, read this one if you only have one day left to live, there is just one book that can explain stuff like this and it is this one. If everyone in here reads this book, alot of things will change.

[jikwan]

gauss, satanism/occult are important devices.
oijja board pendelum controlling thought-form entities
using clairvoyants ripping the heart out of living beings
and eating the still pulsing heart etc
all these give extra strength/knowledge/vision
theres reports of using young girls and create maximum fear in them
connect yourself to her using wires and feed off the fear
bestiality homosex etc etc etc

when you know your opponents use these things
youre up against a formidable force

you say youre confident people will overthrow this or that
modern people dont give a damn enough to put their time, money and effort
to make big changes
theyre too busy/lazy/exhausted/selfish/divided/fearful/uncoperative
just take a look at world now---and in the past
where are there examples of people rising up and defeating great evil?
you can give one or two examples, but that accounts for 2%
98% of the time they are the complaining and powerless victims of
bad religion/corrupt govt/greedy exploitive people etc

there is no solution
i gave up hope many years ago

if i clean up my mind and live a well ordered and disciplined life.....
THAT is the solution

falun gong looks like very cool
im a bit bias because im a buddhist

[Gauss]

Jikwan, I can tell you that in FG christianity is considerred a righteous religion(as for the dark priests of today they are all predicted in bible) that on high levels is nothing else but - Buddhism. Jesus was a buddhist and most likely trained in India and Tibet by Masters for 17 years. Whether he came from the Pleyades or not I have no idea.

Where jesuits go wrong is on the point of how they want you to pay back your Kharma debt. The best way is to become a good person and not care about worldly gains, fame and other attachments. You simply must rid yourself of that baggage and it will be painful, no shortcut.

FG means you constantly purify yourself(body and mind) by developing virtue and rigteousness together with some physical exercises. First step is to reach the state of milky white body. In my opinion the people doing this for several years are untouchable by anything like dark magic etc. Furthermore, the high-level cultivators can do things we can not imagine. So, as for a formidable dark force, forget it, one righteous person can subdue 100 evil people. I am serious and you will know what I am talking about after studying Zhuan Falun, www.clearwisdom.net etc closely.

Of course John Doe will change nothing, of course FG will change everything here.

Anyway, you were already on track Jikwan, after you read the book and practice FG you will become pure power.

[sparks]

   The real people in the US not the ones that are portrayed by the professional mind controllers have a saying.  What goes around comes around.  People intuitively know about Kharma.  I dont know if kharma is indian or buddhist but it is what it is.

[jikwan]

one righteous person can subdue 100 evil people

gauss, if hes any good-then much more than a 100
100,000 no problem
ive met and lived with such people

but making massive world shaking changes?

according to buddhist scripture even the "almighty" buddha
could do just so much

he didnt waste his time trying to change millions/billions
of people with (mostly) heavy karmas
-too much work and effort and usually little result

i used to be super idealist/optamist
but after examining many pieces of jigsaw of this mad world
fitting them together and seeing the picture
i gave up hope

sometime hope flickers when i see the tremendous results
the leader of FG accomplished
what? millions of chinese followers
no small accomplishment but hes a very great man
and the chinese were totally starved of spiritual teaching/leadership

chinese govt put a stop to that very effectively and efficiently

[Gauss]

Jikwan, the 1 to 100 was figuratively speaking. Of course Master Li Hongzhi can not be compared to others. Six billion people, no problem for him. But the agenda is to save sentient beings, as many as possible, and it is hard, very hard. Shaking the world by the big man, it will be done at a point when every evil thing must be cleaned up and the world as a whole is too bad to be allowed to continue its course down. Until then you should keep trying to save as many good people as possible starting with yourself.

The demonic agenda is to suck as many people as possible with them down below where they know they all will go, hence recruiting young priests for demonic acts. With technical means, mind control, bad food, poisonous meds, chemtrails, oil, nano particles, dead water, drugs, prostitution etc etc they suck down the masses. You can all see through that agenda by now I hope.

Anyway, the person who can temper himself and find a righteous way to cultivate will win, always.

Jikwan, please tell everyone here what you thought about Zhuan Falun after you read through the book. It might do more good than you can ever imagine today.

About the Chinese gvmt(Jesuit controlled - of course) stopping FG, it is only temporary effects, after Jiang Zemin soon dies FG will be allowed again, many young people want to start doing it openly.  Already this year Shen Yun will perform in HK. If you ever get the chance, look at that show.