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Author Topic: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2  (Read 98656 times)

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Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« on: April 13, 2006, 04:41:37 AM »
Hi All,
I had a few problems with my forum and the long first thread
about the Argentina magnet motor.
Now I have splitted the topic, so we can continue over here
in part2 and I also have updated the forum software to the
latest stable version.

I hope I can now post my new simulation pictures...

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Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« on: April 13, 2006, 04:41:37 AM »
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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2006, 04:46:22 AM »
Here is the next simulation picture.
I am using now for the easiest setup all
equal square Neodym magnets also inside
the rotor 2 pieces !

With 3 lifted stator magnets at the same
time I am getting 6.6 Newtonmeters of torque !
That is quite amazing.
I am trying now to simulate the forces to change the stators
again back to the new gap configuration...
Stay tuned...
« Last Edit: April 13, 2006, 05:09:22 AM by hartiberlin »
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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2006, 05:11:18 AM »
Okay, now the attachments are also working again and also this forum should now
also work again with the FireFox browser... hope this helps....
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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2006, 05:32:12 AM »
Hi Everyone,

Thanks to the patent information, I was able to create a precise 3D model of the Torbay motor! I also now know the basic dimensions for the rotor and stator magnets as well so now we can do simulations with the right size/shaped magnets. It looks like the only guesswork we may possibly have is working out the proper cut angles for the magnets. I will upload some screenshots of the 3D model I made in just a bit, I'm still putting together the assembly drawing.

God Bless,
Jason O
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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2006, 05:32:12 AM »

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2006, 06:41:53 AM »
With 3 lifted stator magnets at the same
time I am getting 6.6 Newtonmeters of torque !
That is quite amazing.

I've posted a setup like that already somewhere last week. If you take one more stator magnet away the torque gets even more!
Try it! Please post it here if it worth it....

Dutchy
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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2006, 07:49:41 AM »
Hi Everyone,

Here are some of the screenshots of my 3D model. It's not finished yet but I'm done for now so here they are. I definitely learned a lot about this motor now from drawing this up and I now have a pretty good idea of how the mechanics work. I used a combination of the Patent drawings and the image of the sliced motor to see where everything goes. It is now obvious that he is using the rollers to lift the stator magnets and a metal flap on the top of the rotor disk to push them back down. I think he is using springs too although I'm not sure how exactly and I haven't drawn them up in the model yet. One thing to watch for, there are a few minor errors in some of the dimensions from the patent drawings but nothing critical to the functioning of the motor though.

God Bless,
Jason O
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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2006, 07:49:41 AM »
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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2006, 07:53:01 AM »
Oh one more thing,

I didn't include the top metal piece that goes on the rotor to push the stator magnets back down. This piece appears in the cut-away drawing

(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=866.0;attach=981;image)

but not as a part in the patent. I wonder if the use of springs could eliminate the need for this part?

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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2006, 08:17:24 AM »
Great pics Jason,
here is another forces versus torque simulation.
Sorry, the numbers are a bit hard to see, cause I
compressed the JPEG too strong and don?t have
the original anymore, but the very left X force is a
minus 31.xxxx value.
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Re: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2006, 08:17:24 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2006, 09:48:52 AM »
There is a problem with this construction. The torque decrease it's value with turning of the rotor, and change it,s direction after 90 degrees.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2006, 09:48:52 AM »

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Re: Problem
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2006, 11:05:07 AM »
There is a problem with this construction. The torque decrease it's value with turning of the rotor, and change it,s direction after 90 degrees.

Only one thing...Do you have any clue how this motor works????
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Re: Problem
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2006, 11:05:07 AM »
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