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Author Topic: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output  (Read 284069 times)

Offline h2ocommuter

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #420 on: August 30, 2011, 02:42:28 AM »
Hi Les,

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #421 on: September 18, 2011, 08:04:10 AM »
All,

The 2.4kW phase control power supply for the electrolyzer is usually placed in the ECU.

(There it is supplied by the low voltage supply rails which supply ALL circuits.
Further, it is additionally controlled by the pressure regulator circuit and/or the timer.)

However, I have just completed a “stand alone” version (with its own power supply of ±12V and +5V for the control circuits) for my friend George (now 84!), to drive his 240V, 120 cell electrolyzer.

While testing it, I discovered that if the load is already connected when power is applied, there is NO regulation, which means FULL power is applied!

(Without regulation, the power drawn by the electrolyzer might be FAR higher than desired and would at least result in blown fuses!)

The reason for the lack of regulation at power-up is that the power supply lines are not yet stable, thus the circuit cannot be expected to work properly!

ONE way to fix this is to delay the Triac control pulses for 1–2 seconds at power-up.
This will allow the power supply to stabilize.

There are many ways to introduce such a delay.
I choose a small MOSFET (2N7000) for the clamping of the pulses, controlled by an RC network with the correct time constant for the delay.
It also functions as a fast ON/OFF switch, controlled by the pressure regulator circuit and/or the timer.
(See circuit description for further details.)

I have now replaced the circuit diagram, description and the pcb layout with the edited versions. 
If you have downloaded the earlier versions, please replace them with the updated ones.

Further, to give you an idea of what is ‘involved’, I have attached two pictures.

Note that the ‘Vero board’ was necessary since this one-off, “stand alone” unit needs its own low voltage power supplies (with transformer).

On the front panel, the meter indicates actual load current which is set by the potentiometer. 
(Please refer to the circuit description how to set this current.)

The switch is NOT a load switch but an electronic ON/OFF control.

Best regards,
Les Banki




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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #422 on: September 19, 2011, 04:44:15 PM »
good and cool pic

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #422 on: September 19, 2011, 04:44:15 PM »
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Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts Think different Video
« Reply #423 on: October 08, 2011, 11:28:34 PM »
Hello
Harti presented the Think different Video from Oliver and Valentin at december of 2010

Today i like to present you one of some Videos of a developers meeting
held on the 30.09.11 in a small rural city in south Germany.

It was the first Event of this kind.

The landlord there owens a Energy station to produce Elektricity and heat.
He tryed many times to feed his Engine (1600ccm Ford Kent ) with HHO .
But he did not succseed many times , because of to less volume of hho.

Then the idea was born.
Lets come together and produce HHO to run the engine.

After about 6 weeks of preperation we meet in Wurzbach.

Friday evening we first come together to enjoy a barbecue and introduce eachother. We finnished early in the morning the other Day.

The Landlord and his wife are realy nice and very friendly people.
He managed  that we became  Brothers in Work.

Saturday morning we meet for Brekfast and than we brought our Hardware to the backside of the House where the Generator was located.
It took us some hours to supply all the Equipment with electricity and connect the 8 elektrolysers to a joint.

Finally we run the Engine with HHO only.
But in all the euphorie and happyness we did not take all mesures.

The big Meter to mesure the Gasoutput was not able to handle the volume. So we are not realy shure about the quantity of HHO that was used.
Later we run the Engine via a bottle Hydrogene pure to have a different sight. The Meter shows a consume of about 10-12 Liters H pure.

BUT WE DID IT.

We run a 1600ccm with HHO  and Hydrogene only.

The next Meeting will come. We will open the door to a new dimension.

Then we run the Engine in a cloesed loop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOg_JQGPGEk

enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAllG6vUiPc

enjoy

helmut


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #424 on: October 09, 2011, 12:56:14 AM »
Helmut
Wonderful wonderfuL
What a great day!!
Here is some more good news
Core has replicated peter Davey heater open Source Here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7096-peter-davey-heater-4.html#post161435

Your Friend
Chet

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #424 on: October 09, 2011, 12:56:14 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #425 on: October 09, 2011, 10:37:47 PM »
Hi Chet my friend

Thanks for your reply

Good Link  hopefully he is able to improve his device to comarable results to mr. Davey.

helmut

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #426 on: October 19, 2011, 06:36:22 PM »
First timer here and thank you for such an informative site !

Would like to convert my 13hp Honda 8,750 watt he set to run on Hydroxy .

Where should I start ? Big question but really appreciate your guidance .

thanks
don paul

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #426 on: October 19, 2011, 06:36:22 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #427 on: November 29, 2011, 05:24:15 PM »
Hi Chet, I dont know if has been brought up on the other site (regarding the heater), but when I took physics, we had an experiment in which we took a tuning fork and struck it over a column of water.  By changing the distance of the water from the fork, we were able to either: cancel the sound wave of the tuning fork, or, which I think may really help this work, was to actually DOUBLE the sound wave.  If Core can set a bell or bells at a certain distance, he may actually be able to double the output.  Just a thought if you could pass on to him.

Mark

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #428 on: November 29, 2011, 11:10:59 PM »
What are these fine Germans doing to get to loop their systems? Are they making better gas, or more of it? What's the trick? In the vids it looks like all they do is build a basic cell and loop it. I'll admit that I have not spent many hours reading up on it, but perhaps the most important message is HOW to do it, rather than look at middle aged men making steam and getting an engine to stuttter. All due respect, really, but what's the clue, or is it a secret?

Thanks!

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #428 on: November 29, 2011, 11:10:59 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #429 on: January 05, 2012, 05:32:51 PM »
Hi, new user here to Overunity. I have been a follower of the Tesla turbine crowd for a while now. I wanted to post out of curiosity. Specifically as to why an ICE engine is being used and not a more efficient turbine engine? Tesla turbine would really excite me to see it run off HHO self sustained. Im an ICE guy by nature, dont get me wrong. The purr of a Flathead Ford v8 does more for me than my girlfriend. :P But with this , I also realize the complete inefficiency of ICE engines.
Also as a gearhead, a turbine run off the exhaust to increase the cylinder pressure or to turn another generator, would be a valuable upgrade.

None the less this is a very impressive machine to say the least!

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #430 on: January 12, 2012, 01:10:07 AM »

I don't think there is a secret in the answer I believe it is simply get-er-done attitude.  perseverance type drive.  We all could use a little help from our neighbors and friends who share like interests.  Truly I can hardly find anyone who has my same interests.  if our government continues to confiscate all my money it will not matter that I have friends who want to help with a project. the it just becomes a mater of food on the table or in a homeless shelter. that is not where I want to live.  I do think these are the issues though.
Zane



What are these fine Germans doing to get to loop their systems? Are they making better gas, or more of it? What's the trick? In the vids it looks like all they do is build a basic cell and loop it. I'll admit that I have not spent many hours reading up on it, but perhaps the most important message is HOW to do it, rather than look at middle aged men making steam and getting an engine to stuttter. All due respect, really, but what's the clue, or is it a secret?

Thanks!

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #430 on: January 12, 2012, 01:10:07 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #431 on: June 13, 2014, 05:53:18 AM »
 Hi guys,

 
Instead of creating yet another thread (there are WAY too many already) on this Forum, I decided to post in THIS thread, which DIED 2 ½ years ago!!

(As you can see, the last post was in January 2012.)

 
To me that indicates a TOTAL lack of interest in this technology.

Despite that, I have decided to give those who might still be interested, one last chance!

 
However, I do everything differently nowadays.
 
Thus, I have no intention to “clutter” this Forum with lengthy posts, lots of photos and attachments.
 
Here is the link to my 'Dropbox' Folder and its 'checksum' for my latest WFGP (Water Fueled Generator Project):
 http://goo.gl/ZgF7aS

#md5#LB_WFGP-Feb 2014.zip#2014.03.05@10.51:16

5240ca6b8faaef973486f41ccf661875
*LB_WFGP-Feb 2014.zip



The information is COMPLETE with circuit diagrams, detailed circuit descriptions and pcb layouts in the original Protel (PFW) format for board manufacturing.


It should be OBVIOUS that this is NOT a “proof of concept” design but a set-up intended for 24/7 unattended operation.
(The only actions required by the user will be: Start/Stop, general engine maintenance and filling the “fuel tank” with pure water!)


Shortly, there will be a second Dropbox link published for project updates (mainly photos) as the work progresses (rapidly).
(Note that this project is in its final stages with only the making of the electrolyzer and engine modifications remaining.)


Just to give you an idea of the MAGNITUDE of this project:

The generator for this particular project is rated 7kw, continuous.

Power to run itself will be around 2 – 2.4kW, leaving about 4 – 5 kW for powering load.


You can download (and save) the Folder from the above link.
As always, you have two choices:
You can ACCEPT the info, or you can REJECT it.

NOTE that there are NO restrictions or conditions for using this info.

Over the years you have no doubt noticed that I am NOT in the habit of making “claims”.
I supply the necessary information and ENCOURAGE people to try things for themselves!

IF you are not willing to “get your hands dirty” and “risk” a few dollars, then this information is NOT for you so PLEASE move on!

Cheers,
Les Banki  

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #432 on: June 13, 2014, 08:57:46 AM »
You're very generous Les - many thanks.  It is good to hear from
you again.  It's been a few years.

Enthusiasm may have waned a bit with many who are pursuing
this endeavor.  Some of us are temporarily without any means
of experimentation for one reason or another but hopefully this
will improve in the near future.

Revival of interest is long overdue!

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #433 on: June 13, 2014, 06:59:52 PM »
Thanks Les,


I'm glad you have continued on this journey, steadfast and sure.....   We are all glad you have updated the content.  This thread is still in my few but highly valuable resources that I keep the documentation about.


You again have given your best and I accept the this jewel as a treasure. 


Zane

Offline Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #434 on: June 14, 2014, 06:25:10 AM »
SeaMonkey & Zane,

Thanks for your kind words, guys.

I have discovered LONG ago that the act of GIVING is far more pleasurable than receiving.
I wish everyone would discover this.

Besides, the ideas we all have is NOT really ours.
They originate from the Creator.

We are all ONE and we SERVE each other.
That is how everything works.


As for experimentation, well, that is no longer essential in this case.

Most of you who read this will probably agree that mankind is out of time.

We simply can't afford to wait another 5-10 years for someone to create some better methods.
And even if that happened, it would most likely be patented, as usual!

I have already pointed out that since we have a working method right now, there is NO NEED for fancy electronics for electrolysis.
Just have a close look at my 'ss2kweps' - which stands for: "super simple 2kW electrolysis power supply"

Anyone would be hard pressed to make a simpler one!


Cheers,

Les Banki

 

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