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Author Topic: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.  (Read 870809 times)

Offline minnie

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3045 on: November 29, 2012, 05:44:32 PM »
Hi,
  what 're you doing here John?
 I had a ten year old daughter diagnosed with brain cancer, not much fun.
 In parts of UK. we've had to test lambs for over two decades because they're radioactive.
Materials from fission processes are known to be highly carcinogenic.
The people hate onshore wind.
The government has stifled most new PV.
No doubt the government will invest in fission to meet targets.
They don't really know what to do with the waste we already have.
Nuclear accidents are going to happen whatever anyone says.
The environment does manage to sort out things like oil spills eventually.
Contamination from nuclear processes is going to be around for probably centuries.
I'm getting on now, but we must try and act, now,  in a proper manner,
                                                             John.

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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3046 on: November 29, 2012, 06:11:28 PM »
Hi,
  what 're you doing here John?
 I had a ten year old daughter diagnosed with brain cancer, not much fun.
 In parts of UK. we've had to test lambs for over two decades because they're radioactive.
Materials from fission processes are known to be highly carcinogenic.
The people hate onshore wind.
The government has stifled most new PV.
No doubt the government will invest in fission to meet targets.
They don't really know what to do with the waste we already have.
Nuclear accidents are going to happen whatever anyone says.
The environment does manage to sort out things like oil spills eventually.
Contamination from nuclear processes is going to be around for probably centuries.
I'm getting on now, but we must try and act, now,  in a proper manner,
                                                             John.

Jon, I can not solve all those real problems, and I am sorry for them, and your daughter.
I do have the real deal - when we get past the nay sayers (supression) - and good people take the time to look - we will be a big step closer to providing the solution to some of the issues.
Anybody to bring a real clean energy system to market - requires an change in the hard fast belief in all things being entropic.
We discovered one that is not. Education is the answer to change We are building the teams that will supply the tools.
Some assume our goals are monetary - they do not know us at all.
I have invested over $165,000 of my own money to help stop issues like you describe - and I get called a fraud ----
It is amazing that God gave me the strength to go on - thru all of this - but I feel as fresh as the day I discovered the "Travis Effect" - controlled properly... it can be the answer.
 
Wayne
« Last Edit: November 29, 2012, 07:34:04 PM by mrwayne »

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3047 on: November 29, 2012, 07:09:34 PM »
First I never asked for an invenstment from you?
You suggested you saw room for improvement and I said "Come on......... "
Second - your dialog concerning my invention is so far removed from my statements regarding the design size and function for our system - common theme.
Let me give you an Example - The floppy drive had what capacity? and I bet when the flash drive came along claiming that something smaller than your fingernail could hold giga bites of information - it was lughed at - mocked ridiculed and then followed with - I wish it were true - we could use somethinglike that...... come latley
Here is what I already asked of you.
Look at our Machine.
Study the Facts
Study the Physics
Study the Design
Look at the Spread sheets,
look at the Patent application
Look at the replications,
Look at the team work.
I do not care if you believe in the tooth fairy - I certainly did not ask you to believe me.
Use what any engineer, scientist, skeptic, free energy searcher should do - look at the proof - not belief.
Like it or not - I am the teacher - you want the answers - show a smig of effort.
I sent you the power point to help you - what did your respond?
Good day.
Wayne

Ok, I am confused now, mrwayne.  What in blazes are you talking about?  Prior to your saying that I was confused, I had only made one post in the past two weeks.  And I did not say there was room for improvement.  And you did not reply with "come on".   And I didn't say anything about the design size of your system.  Unless I've lost my mind, you've confused me with somebody else.


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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3048 on: November 29, 2012, 07:36:33 PM »
Ok, I am confused now, mrwayne.  What in blazes are you talking about?  Prior to your saying that I was confused, I had only made one post in the past two weeks.  And I did not say there was room for improvement.  And you did not reply with "come on".   And I didn't say anything about the design size of your system.  Unless I've lost my mind, you've confused me with somebody else.
My error - I crossed conversations with Minne and you.
My sincere apology.
Wayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3049 on: November 29, 2012, 07:58:23 PM »
My error - I crossed conversations with Minne and you.
My sincere apology.
Wayne

Accepted.  Thanks.


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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3050 on: November 29, 2012, 11:08:56 PM »
TK did not confuse me.  I am only confused about the following things:

1) Why you think TK confused me.

2) Why anybody would believe your claims, much less invest, based on the "information" you have provided.


(Oh and TK, not that it matters now, but I think you found the wrong church.  You need to search for "Chickasha", not "Chickasaw".)

James

Thank you very much. That is why people ask questions, so that their understanding can be corrected by answers.
I was confused by the proximity of Paul's Valley to Chickasha and the address of the church there, on Chickasaw street.
There are Trinity Baptist SBC churches all over the place around these parts; there is a huge, very rich one in one of the chi-chi neigborhoods nearby me and their Lexi and Benzes and Expeditions clog the road for hours on a Sunday. But it gives them something do do, I guess, before relaxing in front of the TV for the game. You won't find Them sharing Sunday dinner with a random homeless person off the street, or trading shoes with one, though. Soup kitchens and closet-cleanout donations to the church rummage sales are good enough for modern charity. And acts of good work don't save you anyway, nobody comes to the Father except by faith in the Son, so kick back and relax.

http://trinitychickasha.org/

I think I've found the sister city, in India: Chandigarh.
(scroll down for the image of the installed apparatus at an official government building, the premises of the Punjab Energy Development Agency )
http://web.archive.org/web/20070411001005/http://www.pugmarks.com/biz/gsmann/

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3051 on: November 29, 2012, 11:29:44 PM »
Thank you very much. That is why people ask questions, so that their understanding can be corrected by answers.
I was confused by the proximity of Paul's Valley to Chickasha and the address of the church there, on Chickasaw street.
There are Trinity Baptist SBC churches all over the place around these parts; there is a huge, very rich one in one of the chi-chi neigborhoods nearby me and their Lexi and Benzes and Expeditions clog the road for hours on a Sunday. But it gives them something do do, I guess, before relaxing in front of the TV for the game. You won't find Them sharing Sunday dinner with a random homeless person off the street, or trading shoes with one, though. Soup kitchens and closet-cleanout donations to the church rummage sales are good enough for modern charity. And acts of good work don't save you anyway, nobody comes to the Father except by faith in the Son, so kick back and relax.

http://trinitychickasha.org/

I think I've found the sister city, in India: Chandigarh.
(scroll down for the image of the installed apparatus at an official government building, the premises of the Punjab Energy Development Agency )
http://web.archive.org/web/20070411001005/http://www.pugmarks.com/biz/gsmann/
Hey TK,
Glad you have free time,
Have you answered these questions yet ?
"this time use two jars of water - and have most of the air in the first jar then let the air flow equalize - Does it matter that the two bodies of water are not connected, what is the common link that controls and causes the effect - Now raise one jar above the other - what happens? lots to learn here."
Still waiting.
 
Wayne
 

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3052 on: November 30, 2012, 12:23:13 AM »
Hey TK,
Glad you have free time,
Have you answered these questions yet ?
"this time use two jars of water - and have most of the air in the first jar then let the air flow equalize - Does it matter that the two bodies of water are not connected, what is the common link that controls and causes the effect - Now raise one jar above the other - what happens? lots to learn here."
Still waiting.
 
Wayne

Hey Mr Wayne,
The forum still waits for your "hitting the ball out of the park" demonstration.
Where are you and your group on that demo?
Will this be a private demo, via special invitation only or will you be web casting for all of the world to see?
Such an event should be shared with your fellow mankind.. Don't you agree???
 
I have been following since May 2012.
Are you any closer to demo'ing a self runner ?
Dave

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3053 on: November 30, 2012, 12:27:58 AM »
Hi mrwayne,
                   you've got to build up a bit of credibility. The P.P. diagram Tinsel focused on was quite stupid as it stood. Even the few
words that accompanied it made no sense. Why include something like that with no explanation?
  Give people facts and they'll be happy. Make unrealistic claims and you just end up looking silly. Show us a 30 watt machine running
for a month and I'll bet you'll have people queuing up to see it, and you for that matter.
  I could give you a whole string of those I've followed over the last ten years and not one of them has shown anything.
One thing that's really in your favour is your resilience, just like your ZED, knock you down and you bounce straight back up.
 The world desperately needs clean energy and I know you'll show us the way,
                                                                                                      John.

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3054 on: November 30, 2012, 01:16:26 AM »
Hi mrwayne,
                   you've got to build up a bit of credibility. The P.P. diagram Tinsel focused on was quite stupid as it stood. Even the few
words that accompanied it made no sense. Why include something like that with no explanation?
  Give people facts and they'll be happy. Make unrealistic claims and you just end up looking silly. Show us a 30 watt machine running
for a month and I'll bet you'll have people queuing up to see it, and you for that matter.
  I could give you a whole string of those I've followed over the last ten years and not one of them has shown anything.
One thing that's really in your favour is your resilience, just like your ZED, knock you down and you bounce straight back up.
 The world desperately needs clean energy and I know you'll show us the way,
                                                                                                      John.
Gee, I never thought of that - should I invite a skeptic out to watch it run?
Should I let him make his own video?
On the power point slide - Can you add any valuable insights, or observation, or is "quite stupid" the extent of it.
Thanks
Wayne
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3055 on: November 30, 2012, 02:56:14 AM »

Hey Mr Wayne,
The forum still waits for your "hitting the ball out of the park" demonstration.
Where are you and your group on that demo?
Will this be a private demo, via special invitation only or will you be web casting for all of the world to see?
Such an event should be shared with your fellow mankind.. Don't you agree???
 
I have been following since May 2012.
Are you any closer to demo'ing a self runner ?
Dave
Hello Dave,
In all your posts - you have had a level head - I agree with you.
Please recall that our first Demo back in May of 2011, it was a simple input and output system - only three layers and we demonstrated that the additive effect of the Pressure differentials were sound - and yes,   they matched Larry's spread sheets.
It was the first stage of an over unity machine.
In November of 2011 we demonstrated that original three layer unity self running - Over unity closed loop.
In the year that has passed since then - we worked way to long and hard to turn that model into a closed loop system that also converted the excess energy to electricity as well as gather Data throughout the system and all of its function.
In hind site - that was partially a waste of time - balancing budgets - meant we needed to reuses what we could. Reusing that three layer system was a mistake to accomplish all the goals - but we did get to use the Data to develop our Optimized systems.
And all of the work we did was very useful to gain the knowledge of mechanical limitations speeds and flow values.
I asked the group to regroup and decide if we should abandon the ZED, or build the optimized system -
More engineers joined the fight -
Timing was great,
We had new engineers who lent valuable effort to the cause - you see the design is not the problem - it is how do you use it.
With these additional engineers volunteering, Greece, Switzerland, Four from the USA - all helping to answer the question - can we make this little model meet all the demands we have on it?
The independently analyzed the system and agreed - YES - but barley - well barely was where we were at - and even with
a fueless system running over unity and over coming all the exchange losses - I did not see anymore value in it than the last demo.
SO I asked the group to optimize our design to "Hit it out of the park"
p.s. (I do not care about the barking dogs and their demands - I want what is right for the people helping and the needs the machine can meet).
For over thirty days I reviewed optimizations and designs - none were impressive enough, within the requirements they were given.
So I pulled out the next Model - it uses the same unique discovery - but with a unique input method - and I asked ten of the engineers to run numbers on it (COP).
We built three little models and used the data to verify the engineers.
The most conservative engineer came to me in a low voice and said "this is unbelievable - I am as conservative as I can be and you have a COP of 13."
I said to him, then design me one to build with enough output to "knock it out of the park" - and we built that one.
Our original COP on the finished model was 11, not bad since we can not slope the input (with my budget).
After my head engineer evaluated the system - he said double the input system to add more control and more options.
And we did.
Now Larry - has worked tirelessly on this system, along with our head engineer - with evaluations COG, Mass momentum and other things we have to deal with.
Currently we are running tests on using the New model to run the ZEDS, and we are also developing different output systems for the new model.
(I have no time for invisible unicorns and demands by people to show them something)
But this Web site has enabled many good men to bypass the unicorns and come straight here.
We had a Physicist Join today.
So we are setting up for the best ball game ever.
Now My wife has been very ill - so that has kept me close to here and I decided to see if anyone wanted to discuss the technology - and its merits. But alas - no takers, Red may be right.
All or nothing..........is all I hear............... I think our team deserves the rights to our release... enough said on that.
Dale, we are on steps of the release - do you know what will be said about all the truth I just shared -
TK and his ponies will say see see .... he admits he does not have anything - it is pure ignorance - all or nothing.
I know becasue they do it every week.
They will ignore again that we have had verified Over unity for more than a year. As they have for over a year.
p.s When I am wrong - I am quick to sit down.
If there is more than two ways to do the same thing - I do not see a need to argue.
I will not beat a man down because I do not agree with his politics or his faith, or lack of it.
And the scientific method has served us well - I encourage our detractors to start using it.
Thank you for being respectful - even if I do not provide exactly what you seek.
Yesterday I described myself as a chained up dog... a dog because I am loyal, chained up because I will not lie to suit my needs, the rocks are being thrown are the lies - those that think it is fun - are sick.
I will send Stefan Marks Next video, for those like you.
 Wayne Travis
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« Last Edit: November 30, 2012, 02:07:55 PM by mrwayne »

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3056 on: November 30, 2012, 09:43:44 AM »
Hi,
    I've been giving this one some thought as I do my ordinary work.
I had an idea with a combustion engine to do away with a crank, in practice I didn't think much of it in the end.
It may however work on a gravity machine. Say you had  a long stroke and with permanent magnets on your rod
which would then pass through coils, you might be able to produce a linear generator? Do this on several cylinders
and you should get a steady flow.
   This should get round the horrific losses involved in hydraulics-electric conversion.
                                                                        John.




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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3057 on: November 30, 2012, 10:56:13 AM »
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I did what you have not and yet when you can not argue the science, the math, you all go after the man,, what fucking ignorant morons you all are,, period end of story.

I've given you more REAL math analysis here than anyone else, Webby, thanks to minnie's great questions. I and some others have argued the SCIENCE until we are blue in the face, because you and Wayne are out of your depth when it comes to thermodynamics and energy and work and all the rest of that.

What "FUCKING ignorant moronic" claims have I made that need proving, Webby? The claim that he paid you two thousand dollars? You are the only one who can prove that, I suppose, I am just going by what YOU told me.

I've claimed that Wayne is a liar: and every time he refers to his "Patent" he proves me right.
I've "claimed" that he does not now have nor ever has had a 20 kW unit. Actually that isn't a claim at all, it is a demand for Wayne to prove his claims. I'm not the one making extraordinary claims here, fucking ignorant moron Webby.

And it is YOU who are going after the man here, fucking ignorant moron Webby. Or the Koala, rather.  I have asked for Wayne to prove his claims and he hasn't been able to do so. Have I attacked his character, called him a psychopathic fucking ignorant moron, insulted his family tree, made up bad poetry about him? No, I have not. I have called him a liar when he lies, and I have challenged him to prove that he doesn't lie about his HDPE system.

So again, FUCKING Webby, what FUCKING ignorant moronic claims do YOU claim that I've made?

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« Reply #3058 on: November 30, 2012, 11:00:26 AM »
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To the rest of you, TK and the rest are saying that you are to stupid to make up your own minds and they are protecting you from your own stupidity,, how does that make you feel???

That's a lie Webby and you know it. Shame on you.

Or do you have a link to where I said that anyone is "to" stupid to make up their own mind? Of course you don't.

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3059 on: November 30, 2012, 11:28:21 AM »
Hey TK,
Glad you have free time,
Have you answered these questions yet ?
"this time use two jars of water - and have most of the air in the first jar then let the air flow equalize - Does it matter that the two bodies of water are not connected, what is the common link that controls and causes the effect - Now raise one jar above the other - what happens? lots to learn here."
Still waiting.
 
Wayne
Yes I have answered, Wayne, and if you would read my posts you would see that I answered you already. What are you waiting on me for? YOU are the one who is always late. 50 kW at the church in three months ... and that turned out to be a year or more ago ...... I laugh at you.

 

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