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Offline firda

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Any proof?
« on: January 04, 2012, 07:04:22 PM »
Hi everyone, I am new here. My friend pointed me to this community from "free energy" topic elsewhere. I'd like to believe, it is possible, but I could not so far. Nobody gave me a proof, but so many false videos. I'd like to believe, but after wasting so much energy, I am so sad. This forum is so huge, that I was unable to find any proof myself.

Will anybody help me? Note that I was studying on Mat.-Phys. Faculty of Charles University in Prague.
Thx

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Any proof?
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Offline firda

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2012, 11:53:52 PM »
Well, no reply :'( I'll try to translate what I wrote here:

...As I remember it, the moving electron creates a magnetic field and changing magnetic field pushes the electrons to move, creating electricity. All of this acts as that electrons are trying to compensate for the change and thus act against it. This perfectly explains the el.-mag. conversion and why it cannot produce more energy.

The law of conservation of energy has not been violated yet, but notice the condition of symmetry, speaking of time. Quantum mechanics knows the various oddities, such as principle of uncertainty. Furthermore, remember the unity of space-time, still nothing against time-travel... There are also "clouds of particles," when it appears in several places at once. Using this knowledge could lead to a violation of the law of conservation of energy and allow increasing the energy indefinitely. The existence of this universe also suggest that it must be possible somehow.

Offline firda

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2012, 11:31:21 AM »
Does anybody know P. Pantone geet plasma reactor/motor?

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Offline SchubertReijiMaigo

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2012, 03:52:16 PM »

Long time I have not posted here: Are you an univertsy student ?


In my humble opion: search after resonance effect, Q amplifying factor (know as antenna gain):
All technology is Tesla derived:


1) Rotoverter/Transverter of Hector Perez
2) Magnetic Resonance Amplifier of Joel McCLAIN & Norman WOOTAN
    And Gregory HODOWANEC.
3) TPU of steven Mark (several theory about this but if I remind correctly one include LCR resonance)


You will find this exotic but very interting !!!


1) RF science special with LCR and Q factor stuff.
2) Rotating magnetic fields sometime play a role. (especially in Time and Gravity distortion).
3) Read (even is this a little bitchy) Rotoverter document (Dan Combine, Hector's Post Vol 1 to 6, Panacea-Bocaf Website).
4) Reread more (I have read those pdf dozen of times before to start to understand something)...
6) In my opinion: avoid magnet motor with only magnet like Perendev (until you want a good brake)
    Avoid gravity wheels and all "Newtonian"/linear type of device) ,Gravity wheel with floater, etc, etc...
    OU is not linear and not symmetrical, Asymmetry have the best chance to OU !
7) Electromagnetic is for me a door for OU and LCR resonance is the key...
8 ) According to Hector theory, Resonant like stuff comply with law of thermodynamic but recycle energy infinitely:


For this, three mains "source" of energy:


A) Ambient RF including the "Thermal Ambient"  (so called waste heat)...
B) Gavity distortion (Antigravity like UFO).
C) Time  distortion (Time travel, variable time density).


[ Very exotic (use discernment here).
D) Multidimensional travel (like stargate stuff).
E) Materialization of the stuff that you think in your head...
F) PK and paranormal effect...]


Those, are unlimited in nature and perfectly recyclable...
Again, in my opinion this is the best theory to allow OU and energy conservation...
Here a project (sorry it's in French but some link are in English) that I work currently.


http://www.magnetosynergie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=266


Hope it helps.
SRM.

Offline firda

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2012, 05:50:32 PM »
Thank you for your answer. I am not a student any more, I am 30 years old and am actually a programmer (Informatics were integrated into MFF UK)

Resonance, as I understand it, should allow energy transmition. Every object has its own frequency. Sending energy of such frequency (or multiplied by integer factor) causes resonance effect, which means acceptance of the energy stream. Different energy would pass away. Sound with correct frequency (tone) could destroy a wall, but first, you must know the correct frequency to achieve resonance effect. Soldiers could make a bridge moving/waving when they all use the correct footstep-tempo. etc.
But this does not seem to lead to increased energy.

I'll check the rest occasionally, but my time is limited. So, is there any proof? Any working how-to? Anybody has working free-energy device that was checked, proved and double-checked to be working indefinitely?

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Offline ltseung888

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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2012, 06:24:03 PM »
If you have a good oscilloscope that can display both Channel 1 and Channel 2 and their product, you can build a FLEET prototype for less than US$10.  Tune it and absolutely prove for yourself and all your professors that the average output power can be greater than the average input power.  In other words, the coefficient of performance COP can be greater than 1.
 
The first FLEET prototype achieving COP > 1 was demonstrated in Hong Kong in July 2010.  Since that time, two workshops have been run at Hong Kong University; over 100 thousand visitors saw it at the various inventions shows, Prof. Steven Jones of BYU improved it and has a thread in this forum showing that he achieved a COP = 8; over a dozen teams have been trained to produce such FLEET prototypes; a Taiwan Company plans to have a product based on this technology.
 
I am reproducing some information here but you should go to the overunityresearch.com under the ltseung888 bench to have the full information.  The extra energy comes from the surrounding - I used the terms Lead-out or Bring-in to show that such devices does not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.
 
I do not treat myself as the inventor of such technology.  It was the Divine Revelations from the Almighty.  We must use such knowledge for the good of the entire human race.

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2012, 07:48:05 PM »
I work here: http://levelna.cz/eng/
I can easily get the two-channel oscilloscope.
Do I need to register at overunityresearch.com? Could you give me direct link not to search for it?
So, how does this work? It consumes radiation from TV/radio/wifi etc.? Will that work anywhere, especially in pure nature?




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Offline SchubertReijiMaigo

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2012, 07:55:36 PM »
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I'll check the rest occasionally, but my time is limited. So, is there any proof? Any working how-to? Anybody has working free-energy device that was checked, proved and double-checked to be working indefinitely?


Beware: I'am not talking about a how to working FE device, I have not that pretension, I give you just some "tips" to start and avoid to lose your time/money, it's only my opinion, to explore resonance stuff for OU.


When L and C are in resonance you have a voltage across them by their Impedance Z, in resonance (and especially with high Q and in series) this voltage can be many time the input voltage with the same current (controlled by the load for EX a Resistance)... Debunker speak about that the current and voltage are not in phase (PF = 0), but they forget if you extract by a transformer or by Transverter diode plug the power become real (PF = 1), if you put a load at the secondary side of the transformer this is not BS power anymore...


Tips to obtain high Q: you must have a big inductance before a capacitance and a low R as possible (in the circuit), when loaded, beware the inductance of the transformer droop with load and become more and more like a straight wire (like R) so the foxy trick will be to have C small as possible and rising frequency, avoid saturation of the core sufficiently to allow the resonant rise and a Gain...


Hope it helps...

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2012, 08:09:17 PM »
Uff, I'll have to review my english and my GCE (you'll probably understand that as high-school final exam) from physics, I didn't like that at all, second most complicated question.... but... maybe... God had a plan with me :D
I'll try to absorb that and talk it through with our HW guru :D

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Offline ltseung888

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2012, 08:46:23 PM »
I work here: http://levelna.cz/eng/
I can easily get the two-channel oscilloscope.
Do I need to register at overunityresearch.com? Could you give me direct link not to search for it?
So, how does this work? It consumes radiation from TV/radio/wifi etc.? Will that work anywhere, especially in pure nature?

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?board=114.0
 
There is enough information to cover the three Divine Revelations.  We can get energy from Still air.  We can get energy from Gravity.  We can get energy from the orbiting electrons.  FLEET uses the energy from the orbiting electrons.
 
The technique is to use Pulse to get a high emf in an appropriate resonance LCR circuit.  The Pulse was provided by the transistor (e.g. 2N2222) in a Joule Thief Circuit.  In a normal transformer, the rate of the flux change in the Primary and the Secondary are the same.  WIth rapid pulsing, the secondary can have a much higher flux change.
 
The textbook explanation of resonance is wrong.  The textbook explanation of resonance is that no external energy comes into the resonance system.  The proof that such an explanation is wrong was the placing of a cup to a speaker driven by a signal generator.  If the frequency is right and the cup is 1/4 wavelength, the resulting sound is much louder throughout the whole room.  The textbook explanation is that somehow the sound is reflected and there is no energy increase.
 
The Lead-out or Bring-in energy theory says that some of the random molecular motion energy of the air molecules are brought-in.  There is no violating of the Law of Conservation of Energy.  Please study the full information at the ltseung888 bench.
 
May the Almighty guide you in the study.

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2012, 08:57:18 PM »
I hope my brain will not burn itself if that's all true :o
Thx

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2012, 09:20:59 PM »
You're right, even for me is weird but, Why not ? You can't judge till we have replicated by ourselves !!!
Nature have a lot of surprise !!! (Sorry for my English, I'am French native.)



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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2012, 09:47:21 PM »
As I said in my second post
The existence of this universe also suggest that it must be possible somehow.
I hope you helped me to find it after my looooong search for it ???

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2012, 04:36:16 PM »
As I said in my second postI hope you helped me to find it after my looooong search for it(http://www.overunity.com/file:///C:/Users/Jen/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif)

 
Please learn and discuss with your professors and fellow students the following:
 
 
1.     The Instantaneous Power is equal to the product of the Instantaneous Voltage multiplied by the Instantaneous Current.  It does not matter whether the circuit is DC, AC or Pulsed.
 
2.    Use Channel 1 of your oscilloscope to measure Instantaneous Voltage.  Use Channel 2 to measure the resistance across a One Ohm resistor (Instantaneous Current).  Make sure that your oscilloscope has the multiple function.  Channel 1 * Channel 2 will give you the Instantaneous Power.
 
3.    Make sure that your Oscilloscope have the save function that can save picture (BMP files) and data (CSV files).  Use EXCEL to examine and play with the data in the CSV file.  Obtain the average of Ch1*Ch2.  Obtain the positive and negative only area of ch1*Ch2.
 
4.    Play with the above three steps until you are absolutely confident that your technique is perfect.  Most of the students and engineers in Irvine, USA did not master this at the beginning and got totally confused with the testing.
 
5.    Build a Joule Thief Circuit.  Google “Build a Joule Thief” to get the details.  Repeat multiple times until you mastered it.
 
6.    Wind a two wire coil on the toroid of the Joule Thief until it covered the entire toroid.  You effectively have two secondary coils.
 
7.    Use only one secondary coil first.  Put a LED and a one ohm resistor as load.  Treat that as Output Power.  Use Steps 1-3 and display the bmp file and the calculated Output average power.
 
8.    Use the battery side of the Joule Thief circuit.  Put in a one ohm resistor.  Use Steps 1-3 and display the bmp file and the calculated Input average power.
 
9.    If the result of 7 and 8 showed overunity (COP>1), you are lucky and congratulate yourself.
 
10. If you have not achieved overunity, you need to do tuning.  That may involve changing the holes on the breadboard; changing the length of wires; changing the one ohm resistor to two ohms or more; adding capacitors or changing the number of turns and using another toroid ring.
 
11. If you really have difficulty with 11, I can send you a tuned FLEET.  You must have demonstrated Steps 1-10 on the Internet before I send you a tuned one.  Even a tuned FLEET will change its characteristics due to shipping.  The bad experience and the resulting frustration stopped me from shipping any tuned FLEET to unproved groups or individuals.
 
You may have a working FLEET prototype demonstrating overunity with your oscilloscope in the Near Future - Year of the Dragon.  You may be drinking and enjoying the Divine Wine.
 

Offline firda

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2012, 07:05:26 PM »
So, i did a bit of searching. I'll have to check for those BMP+CSV, but my HW-colleague just obtained new oscilloscope/analyzer which seems to have these functions (it will take at least a week before I can return to my job-place/room).

P=U*I no doubt, but Joule Thief produces high spikes, right? Oscilloscope/analyzer has its limits as sampling frequency.
Isn't this all a problem of measurement?

Has anybody ever measured total input power (during the process of creation) and total output power
and proved, that measured total output power was greater than total input power ever put into it during the whole process?
This could be done by using three batteries, charge one, use it to start it up, recharge two empty batteries from it and the proof is done.

P.S.: Please, do not treat my reactions as "Hey, you stupid, this can never work!" but as "I appreciate your work and time, but my time is limited too and I have to do some selection first, Thank you".

 

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