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Offline Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2012, 11:40:39 PM »
Don't waste your pity. He got what he asked for.

Notice he didn't tell you why he got banned? It's because he said and did something stupid and unforgivable at OUR:

He took something I said out of context and obviously didn't understand what was said. Then he posted this here at OU in an effort to make OUR look as though we do not support FE research. Once I corrected him, he had nothing to say, so I must assume he realized his error.

This is what he took out of context and posted:
My reply:
So there you have the full story. Magluvin had no desire to be at OUR, except to undermine OUR integrity. And he claims that we or I do not support FE research. He is flat out WRONG!

ok, here we go....

Listen Poynt, how about this. Lets say I go out, and get you some Whah burgers and some frenchcries. Ill even get you a Whinekin to wash it down with.

Ooo, do I detect a bit of steam from your ears. spit

First off, I have been in contact today with the person that sent me my notification and reason for the ban. I am in full compliance to help him correct the situation that the banning pertains to. And it has nothing to do with you. :P

I think you are a turd, a moron, a 3 year old little brat, that has made it his mission to beat down on an old lady, year after year. That is what you are and what you do.

The person that sent my ban notice, I have full respect for, and have had, including quite a few others at OUR.  And you think I have an agenda with OUR as a whole? Welp, wrong again bucko.  BAAAHAHAHAHAHAA  thpppp spittle.

For someone that has his own site dedicated to Ou, your professionalism is "pity"ful.
I have never seen the others at our, other than MH that I know of, stoop to the levels that you do in respect to Rose and a few others. Theres your pity

I have seen your devious, pretending to befriend(or pretend to be nice), to Rose, just to try and sucker her into your trap. LOL you might have to dump a few more threads over there, for fear that I may prove my poynt. Posts here at OU and there at OUR, time stamped and all.  You know exactly what Im talking about you low down dirty snake. You cant play fair. You have to be down and dirty to accomplish "your agenda" with Rose.  You are obsessed. What did she do to deserve this? Dang, she must have super glued your balls to you nose. Or is it worse than that? spit

And as for the thread that was deleted because of my posting of parts of it here in jpg form, not just because of my doings, but because it could get you into trouble because the thread EXISTED. Why do you have threads like that? Very very irresponsible of you to run your show in such a manner. It wasnt because of my doings. you act as if the thread was invisible before me. I seen it, I read it. The great invincible POYNT. spit   You are a fool.

You need Chef Gordon Ramsey to come over there and set you straight and show you that you are in denial of these tragic mistakes and atrocities.

I have put my best into the PM to Stefan to remove those posts of mine, showing regret that I did so, unknowingly of the others that it might have caused problems for.

I dont need to be at OUR. I have a place right here. Its the place to be.  ;) And you are here more than me. Maybe you should work on keeping you own place clean.
Oh, but there are no old ladies to beat on at your place. She isnt allowed there. Thats odd.  She cant come there, but you spend so much time with her here. Can you explain that? In the greatest detail possible please, as you request from others. spit
Why cant she be at your place there Poynt? hmmm?  Something to hide? Hmmm?
spit

You are a disgrace to your site. that is why you have troubles falling your way over there. You did that to yourself, not me.  But, as Ron White would say, ya cant fix stupid. And stupid is what you have done. Stupid. spit.

What a "pity"   ;)

Now go away little boy. You bodda me.  ;)

magfrickinluvin  spit

Offline poynt99

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2012, 12:35:17 AM »
LOL,
 
You got yourself worked into a tizzy I see.  :o Good golly can-do-no-harm Magluvin, what is wrong with you?
 
You got banned for badmouthing OUR the way you did, just as I explained. Peter acted because I asked him to. Yeah it was my idea, and he agreed after seeing how you tried to undermine the integrity of OUR.

How dare you accuse OUR of making a mockery of the FE community? Read your own posts (and Rosemary's for that matter); there you will see someone making a mockery of the FE community.  ::)

Now go take your pill and settle down before you blow a LED and get yourself banned from here too.  ;D


ok, here we go....

Listen Poynt, how about this. Lets say I go out, and get you some Whah burgers and some frenchcries. Ill even get you a Whinekin to wash it down with.

Ooo, do I detect a bit of steam from your ears. spit

First off, I have been in contact today with the person that sent me my notification and reason for the ban. I am in full compliance to help him correct the situation that the banning pertains to. And it has nothing to do with you. :P

I think you are a turd, a moron, a 3 year old little brat, that has made it his mission to beat down on an old lady, year after year. That is what you are and what you do.

The person that sent my ban notice, I have full respect for, and have had, including quite a few others at OUR.  And you think I have an agenda with OUR as a whole? Welp, wrong again bucko.  BAAAHAHAHAHAHAA  thpppp spittle.

For someone that has his own site dedicated to Ou, your professionalism is "pity"ful.
I have never seen the others at our, other than MH that I know of, stoop to the levels that you do in respect to Rose and a few others. Theres your pity

I have seen your devious, pretending to befriend(or pretend to be nice), to Rose, just to try and sucker her into your trap. LOL you might have to dump a few more threads over there, for fear that I may prove my poynt. Posts here at OU and there at OUR, time stamped and all.  You know exactly what Im talking about you low down dirty snake. You cant play fair. You have to be down and dirty to accomplish "your agenda" with Rose.  You are obsessed. What did she do to deserve this? Dang, she must have super glued your balls to you nose. Or is it worse than that? spit

And as for the thread that was deleted because of my posting of parts of it here in jpg form, not just because of my doings, but because it could get you into trouble because the thread EXISTED. Why do you have threads like that? Very very irresponsible of you to run your show in such a manner. It wasnt because of my doings. you act as if the thread was invisible before me. I seen it, I read it. The great invincible POYNT. spit   You are a fool.

You need Chef Gordon Ramsey to come over there and set you straight and show you that you are in denial of these tragic mistakes and atrocities.

I have put my best into the PM to Stefan to remove those posts of mine, showing regret that I did so, unknowingly of the others that it might have caused problems for.

I dont need to be at OUR. I have a place right here. Its the place to be.  ;) And you are here more than me. Maybe you should work on keeping you own place clean.
Oh, but there are no old ladies to beat on at your place. She isnt allowed there. Thats odd.  She cant come there, but you spend so much time with her here. Can you explain that? In the greatest detail possible please, as you request from others. spit
Why cant she be at your place there Poynt? hmmm?  Something to hide? Hmmm?
spit

You are a disgrace to your site. that is why you have troubles falling your way over there. You did that to yourself, not me.  But, as Ron White would say, ya cant fix stupid. And stupid is what you have done. Stupid. spit.

What a "pity"   ;)

Now go away little boy. You bodda me.  ;)

magfrickinluvin  spit

Offline Magluvin

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2012, 01:46:22 AM »
LOL,
 
You got yourself worked into a tizzy I see.  :o Good golly can-do-no-harm Magluvin, what is wrong with you?
 
You got banned for badmouthing OUR the way you did, just as I explained. Peter acted because I asked him to. Yeah it was my idea, and he agreed after seeing how you tried to undermine the integrity of OUR.

How dare you accuse OUR of making a mockery of the FE community? Read your own posts; there you will see someone making a mockery of the FE community.  ::)

Now go take your pill and settle down before you blow a LED.  ;D

Lol Tizzy?  That was just an appetizer, if you want to play this game.  ;)

Now for those that have seen my post in that jpg, I did not accuse, I questioned. To question is a search for truth, not an accusation. You always say Rose is twisting things. You silly little man. Hey, Ron White was right on that one. 
Deeper and deeper.   :o   How does it feel Mr Poynt? Hmmm?  Nice feeling huh?

Lol, you will figure another twist. your good at it.

I just have to copy this page when Im done writing it... Busted. That was too easy. Try again?

Banned.   That is all you got..  WOW.  Do you honestly think that I would not expect as much and not give a hoot? 

Tell me kind sir, Just what am I missing out on really that is so precious to me? In great detail please, and show references, and throw in a few formula to prove your case.  lol  Sound remotely familiar anyone? Boss? How about a paycheck for all you demand.

As far as I knew, that site was just yours. Its not like it is posted around town like Ron Paul signs that had told me otherwise.

As for my emails to and from Peter, out of respect for him, I wont say all that was said. If I did, it could be worse for OUR than last night. So do you really want to throw that twist on it just to make yourself look like the angel you want all to perceive? Stay away from that at yours and Peters discretion.  ;) Your call.
You are NOT presenting all the fact in your posts, just the bits you favor.

What is wrong with me?  I like Rose. We talk. You are not her friend. And you are not her boss, with all your demands and cheap belittling like "To all of the 3 readers of this thread.."  And you want respect?  You might have a hard time buying respect with that childish attitude.  You deny this?  ;)

Do you honestly believe that people cant figure out what just that statement resembles?
60 some pages, 52800 + views at this time?  How do you account for such dribble?  Is it comedy? Show me one smiling face. lol Since I posted those "real" stats yesterday, boom, no more of that silliness.  Now I have seen, "to all readers of this thread" What, its too embarrassing to use that one now? Hmmm?  It wasnt embarrassing before was it?
Just a whole lotta fun heh?  yea. fun. For who? Your audience? Your Huge audience here at OU.com? yep

Lol, Rose may be a bit more crafty than you realize. She knows you think your the boss.    lol You really think she doesnt answer your questions the way you demand just to twist?  I laugh when I see it. Its fun fun fun.   ;)

Is that why you still pester her? You havt won yet? How long will it take to get the job done boss? Your supposedly at the top of your game boss.

And yes. I am just a little tiny LED man. Spanking you like a real boss.

Feels good dont it poynt?   

Ok  your turn. Ive got till about 2 am.  ;)

Mags

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2012, 02:05:32 AM »
mags... don't feed the troll. ;)

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2012, 02:14:02 AM »
Save your pathetic whining for someone that cares what you have to say.

Chau dude.

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2012, 02:18:09 AM »
mags... don't feed the troll. ;)

Hey Wilby

Well he came here. I was going to talk about this thread.  :o   honestly, after talking to peter, I was going to drop it all and get down to business. But....

Hey, I forgot that you had that vid. It has been a while.

I was thinking today. Have you looked at all to see if the thread was still here?
I remember I had sent you a pm back then when you posted the vid or the circuit, but you had not been around for a while and I got worried. Remember? You said you were gone fishing or something.

That PM would have been in my inbox. Page 1   Its now page 9 when I click it. lol

When I did a yahoo search, it should have shown the thread here and at fizzx.

I did get 1 post at fizzx that had the schem, but was in a different thread and that was it.

Its just weird.


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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2012, 02:20:10 AM »
Chau dude

Mags

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2012, 02:31:52 AM »
Hey Wilby

Well he came here. I was going to talk about this thread.  :o   honestly, after talking to peter, I was going to drop it all and get down to business. But....

Hey, I forgot that you had that vid. It has been a while.

I was thinking today. Have you looked at all to see if the thread was still here?
I remember I had sent you a pm back then when you posted the vid or the circuit, but you had not been around for a while and I got worried. Remember? You said you were gone fishing or something.

That PM would have been in my inbox. Page 1   Its now page 9 when I click it. lol

When I did a yahoo search, it should have shown the thread here and at fizzx.

I did get 1 post at fizzx that had the schem, but was in a different thread and that was it.

Its just weird.


Mags
i know he did. i hear ya, but that's the game they play... i notice his last response to you was the usual ad hominem. don't let them sucker you in and drag you down. poynt being worried about you harming the"integrity" of our just shows he doesn't understand the word integrity or how it applies. you cannot affect the integrity of our... only its operators can. and when they ban you yet yo-yo back and forth with banning milehigh and then rescinding... well, that's not exactly integrity.

i almost forgot i had it too. had you not had that youtube analytics issue earlier i probably wouldn't even remembered it was on my channel. i do remember your worry, i think i said something like the men in brown came and got me to go hunting/fishing... :)

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p.s.  poynt, mags.... it's ciao. but i'm glad hooked on phonics worked for you guys!  ;)

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2012, 05:11:29 AM »
Ok, Wilby found the thread today.  I went and did a new search today andlike 6 posts came up, but they didnt yesterday. Leftcliq also could not find it in search yesterday. maybe the site was a whacky yesterday at the time.

If Wilby didnt find that and show me, I might not have done a second search, just to see for my self. Nuts

Ok, now I might call it, "this might breeze your mind"  lol

My first (1) page of pm's is still sending me to page 9 when I click on the 1. Still a bit breezy. lol

Im going to build it anyway.

ordering the mag this week and the 30awg, as I have the 26awg.

Im beat. Was up till 5am last night with the apt next to me banging doors all night.

before I go to sleep, im going to run a coil calculator to approximate the size of the spindle and have it prepared for winding.

mags is pooped ;]

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2012, 05:17:26 AM »
Ciao   lol   I just got that.  man I am tired.

I had read it, without noticing the spelling change, as you saying goodbye to Poynt and I   lol

Now thats funny.  ;]

Ciao

Magciao

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2012, 05:32:24 AM »
The link to the thread here...

http://www.overunity.com/7988/has-overunity-been-achieved-check-this-link/

This post was made with 1 eye held open with all my strength using my free hand.

Magsleeps

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Re: This might blow your mind
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2012, 06:36:55 PM »
In response to MH at our.   This is how we communicate. ;]  Its good though. This way 2 venues can pay attn.  ;] I guess.  ::)

Mh

That is really suggestive of you to say once it is all built, to put a battery in the circuit.
MAGLUVIN   CLOSE YOUR EYES.   NOW COUNT BACKWARDS FROM 100 MAGLUVIN.
NOW IMAGINE THE SOUND OF A COOL EVENING BREEZE AND THE WARM SUN SLOWLY SINKING BELOW THE HORIZON........ 99   98  97.....

Nope, no batteries will be used in these experiments MH.    How about you build it and stick a battery.....    ;)    You wont use your time even to prove your point.  I am not at your bidding.  :P but thanks for giving your best effort here.  ;) 3 more years from now you will be saying the same things and doing nothing still.


I read a bit of the thread last night, with my one eye open.  I saw someone there complaining that you never build anything. How long has it been now?   Hmmm?

I rest my case.  :-*

Now on the subject at hand, on the last page of that thread
http://www.overunity.com/7988/has-overunity-been-achieved-check-this-link/msg199279/#msg199279

Magnetman states that the LED could not light in this configuration.  Read what he says.

I suppose maybe he had not worked with pulse motors and gotten spikes that I have seen LEDs lit with many times. Just sayin.   Z had told me that the led isnt even necessary for the circuit to work. It is just an indicator of when the reed is activating. It is used to help tune the device as to reed position.

It is possible that if the reed is just on the far edge of the magnetic field from the magnet. as in, just close enough, that only one pole is activating the reed. So this would solve my issue with the differences between what the N and S poles separate functions are, being that diode would make each a different action in the circuit.
So it is possible that only 1 pole is functioning during the charge cycle.

I have had this where one pole seems weaker at activating the reed. OR, it could be possible the reed could be lightly magnetized, and causing it to be magnetically biased. And to simplify the idea and probably ease tuning, the reed can be biased with a tiny mag, as I have shown in my vids, so the reed wont activate with one pole, but will with the other.

Just thinking about it now, after all this time, more ideas are flowing as to the workings. I have more experience with bifi coils than I did at the time also, so that will help.



What if Z was getting lenzless effects as Marius on Romeros motor?
What if the reed shorts 1 coil while the mag pole is making a pass at the coil?
What if, being the coil has soo many turns, and bifi at that, that the speed up effect gets going at a lower rpm than what Romero had shown?
Lots to do.

There is nothing wrong with making a connection between Zs motor and Romeros in the sense of how things work, and getting the same results.

But there is something not quite right in the absolute assumption that there is a battery in the unit, and not a lick of proof of it.   ;)

I am going to go over that thread tonight and pick apart what the posters were thinking at the time.

Meanwhile, til my parts come in, I have a bifi coil that I am going to construct the circuit around and put it to a rotor that I have that has very very little bearing friction and fiddle.

one more observation on the 2 drawings..

If the bifi wires are a different awg, then I would doubt that the schematic with the coils in series would be the correct one. They are in series, the blue and red coils with the diode at the coil to coil connection. It doesnt make much sense to do that as the smaller awg wire would be the determining factor as to how much current flows through both coils being in series. So my bet is on the other drawing with the parallel coils. Then we just have to try having the coils in different positions, to find out which one goes where as the drawing does not show it.  ;]

Back to work

Mags


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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2012, 02:52:58 AM »
This is a quote from MH at our in his duplicate thread of this one....

"The challenge you should impose on yourself is to figure out exactly what's happening with that fake magic coil-motor setup.  I was just articulating the same challenge to you that I would have given to myself.  If your plan is to try all combinations of coil windings, all sorts of different diodes, and all sorts of combinations and permutations of the reed switch in search of a "magic combination that works," then you are just becoming a brute-force automaton jumping through hoops.  That's not learning, that's just the status quo."


Wow. Are you serious MH?  ok, lets start with the 1st sentence...

Well, are you saying that with the coil I am going to try tonight and the other parts I listed, to figure out how to put a battery to that after its built?

I have other coils also. I could make a motor as you suggest with any of them and make a motor turn. Why would I want to make a motor that runs on a battery, when I have done that many many many many times?
Even a couple orbos. (Actually I made the first solid state orbo also. Before Naudin, check the dates)  And as motors, they work.  So where is the challenge?
Hiding the battery?  Finding out whats going on? (still on the first sentence in the mh quote above)  What? Finding out where to hide the battery?

MAGLUVIN, USE THE BATTERY MAGLUVIN, ITS YOUR ONLY HOPE.
Ok Mobiwan Henobi

MH, cmon man.  Im not looking to do magic trix, as you clearly suggest. You have seen what I can do. Do you seriously believe I could not fake a self running motor?

Im not here to make fakes, as you suggest. I used to work for a company called 077 Systems. Hidden safes, flip tags, strobes, motorization and controls, nail drop, smoke screen, triple flip tags, hidden radar detector systems, amplifier modification and repair, fiberglass, carbon fiber, kevlar, tune vented boxes, bandpass, series tuned band pass, dual chamber reflex(sweet if tuned right), multiple alternator systems, 40,000 watt systems, 28 12" subs, 7 Optima yellow tops, 500farads of caps, 1200watts RMS to a pair of 6 3/4 Pioneer Rev series components in a vehicle that has trophy's all over south Fl, including Datona Spring Break Nationals and Nopi Nationals at Atlanta speedway. Made it into the finals, but we couldnt go as the owner of the truck could not take off from work at that time. Deputy Sheriff.

I could go on.  We had 600w rms to the Pioneers, and they sounded great. At the volumes we wanted, we could smell them. So we bridged 2 4ch amps, 2 bridged channels to the mids and 2 to the tweets. At 1200w, we were 3db louder and no smell. Mags dont play.  ;) Unregulated power supply amps. There is no substitute. ;)

So, Where would you like me to hide your battery sir?   ;)   Your challenge is old M.
I can make a wheel for you also, if you cant find one.  ::)

Ok, thats it for the first sentence.  ;D

Second sentence...

Well if that is what you would do, then we both have different agendas. You know what I want to do, and now we know what you would do and want me to do. I dont really have an interest in what you would do there, as I have done quite a bit of that kind of stuff, many times. its not that difficult to be of any challenge to me.  ;)

As for the last 2 sentences, the real long one and the last short one, they go hand in hand, and they speak for themselves. :o Ill let the people make up their own minds on that one.  :-*

Mags

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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2012, 05:58:21 AM »
Im doing these conversations with MH for a point. Not because I think it relates to how to get this project working, but to show that some of the"experts" are not very helpful in working towards getting the device to work. As they are already set in their ways that it will not work(or is it another reason that I can think of? 8) ), even though they have not built this very setup. So dont put any water in that bucket M, because it doesnt hold any.  ;)

Here is more from MH. It is just part of the post, as the rest is... well go look. I covered some of it already or doesnt matter(see near end of this post).

"Mags:

The reason you would want to make a motor that runs on a concealed battery would be as a lesson for others.  Too many people look at clips like that and they believe that they are real.  That's how the Perendev motor guy got rich and then got busted and is now in jail.  To be honest though that is secondary to my main point.  My main point was to use your scope and your wits and construct a timing diagram for the device.  Show the voltages and currents induced into the circuit as the magnet rotates.  That would not be easy for most people to do, it's a challenge.  Then you explain the timing diagram and that explains how the device works. It also would clearly explain how it's impossible for the device to work unless you add a battery.  The whole point is to demystify the device."


Ok, first off, How many people here would rather that I, Magluvin, build a fake Z motor, rather than build one that might work for real?   First sentence. Easy one.  ;)
Im for the real deal. Trix are for kids.  ;)

Next

If too many people look at vids like that and believe they are real, do you not think that there are many other videos out there already doing just as you suggest that you could refer them to? Advertize those why dont you. I dont need to be reinventing the wheel, when there already is plenty to choose from. It doesnt get me any closer to my original goal, it delays it.  8)

I need to spend my time doing what this site here is intended for.  True Dat.

I am not Prendev. Im not taking investments. Im not building fakes.  Open source dude. You can google it.  :o ;)


Now For Thee Maaain Event    MHs main point....  Ill start at the bottom :o

"It also would clearly explain how it's impossible for the device to work unless you add a battery.  The whole point is to demystify the device."

Can you see what Im trying to show here folks? If that is the belief, from an expert that never built the setup, then the rest of the main point doesnt really matter to me. Im dealing with someone that is deliberately, WITHOUT any proof, not a thread of it, guide all readers into the "There is no OU zone".  Plain and simple.

Ok, to bring an end to this post, MH? Where would you put the battery in this circuit? Please provide each action, in order, throughout the cycle, and show all voltages and waveforms. Thank you.  ;D



Ok M, here is the circuit. Rearranged to simplify. The led, at the far right is cathode upward, to electrically match the original, parallel coil diagram. have at it.  :-*

Mags

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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2012, 06:14:35 AM »
Also MH, it would be beneficial to give reasons as to why the position you chose for the battery to be in. Just so my 3 readers, oops, 1800+ readers, may fully understand where you are coming from exactly. Thank You.  AND MAY THE BATTERIES BE WITH YOU MOBIWAN.

MAGGY