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Offline a.king21

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7065 on: November 22, 2014, 04:14:31 AM »
Guys, I think forget about that Ruslans antenna. We really should follow Tesla's way. Huge difference. With this torrid anntena my frequency jumped up by couple hundreds KHz and the field around is more intense.


What happened to your input draw?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7066 on: November 22, 2014, 09:40:25 AM »

What happened to your input draw?

Has dropped significantly at the first place from 2.2A to 1.4A. But when I play with the Kacher's 10K potentiometer to tune the shape and hight of the wave  (checked on Kachers collector)  I can go as high as around 3.5A.  There is a sweet spot on my Kacher - I tune it to draw around 1.6A - .From this point the output wave doesn't grows much but the draw grows significantly.
Still, the tuning to the ground it is the pain in a ass.
Also  I got a second thought  - even if the toroid is the right and Tesla way , the wire antenna offers me simple fine frequency tunning by changing its pitch. So I will possibly switch back :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7067 on: November 22, 2014, 01:00:28 PM »
Hi to all, Re the Katcher coil, Tesla coil, to get resonance at your chosen frequency, of the Katcher coil, it has to be a pacific length (the wave length), and doesn't the primary also have to be tuned  also to a fixed harmonic, but to get resonance you need to tune the LC of the primary to the secondary. the thing is the energy in the LC has to swing a bit like a curve L to C and then C to L back and forth, back and fourth to transmit the energy, so where is the dynamically tuned C ? (obviously the two coils will have some sort of resonance though out the spectrum), but they will vary in amplitude and at a maximum at true resonant frequency of our wavelength or should do.

Also with the way the primary is wound it has huge dynamic loses, you would think both Akula and Ruslan would have noticed that and stopped the leakage in later devices the way to do it was to use a bifilar wound primary which increased the power locally and suppressed the losses some what. Any thoughts any one, please feel free to comment.
The other thing i forgot to mention is primary orientation polarity, as we are using sine wave from a single ended device, we are pulsing DC not AC, their for the one end of the Katcher coil will be Negatively charged and the other end will be Positively charged, normally the Negative end focuses the greatest collection of charged mater.
Good luck to all.

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« Reply #7067 on: November 22, 2014, 01:00:28 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7068 on: November 22, 2014, 01:36:32 PM »
  John.K1:
  Akula also built some higher output self runners that used the Tesla type of capacitor on top, made of the big aluminum flex tubing. But, remember that this type of radiator coil/receiver set up can have an influence in your home electronics, as well.
  This is what I mean,  Akula video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C03bueW7hlM

  EDIT:
  I had thought previously that half wave DC pulses needed to be superimposed on the Induction coils's AC current pulses.   But now, it looks like the HV Kacher's output, is providing for the negative DC impulses?, to heterodyne with the rectified magnetic induction, on  the induction coils.
So, maybe I had it wrong previously, and now I see the actual way that it's working.  Yes? No?

  AlienGrey:
  Is the Kacher giving off DC then, or AC?  Or both? Is it half wave DC, or, ?
 I guess that I'm still confused...

  Here's an earlier video by Lidmotor showing his Exciter using the exact same transistor that I'm using, (which I still can't get to work), TIP3055, same as my MJE3055.
He also mentions that the 2n3055 did not work, as I also found out.
  Notice his Exciter's primary coil, (pancake style windings). To focus the energy only at best spot on the secondary coil, thus producing higher output with less losses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWnqLv_PLrU

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« Reply #7069 on: November 22, 2014, 03:10:41 PM »
This circuit will still work, if you remember the circuit shown by Ruslan with a diode and a ground to Earth connection. Or a another grounding of Earth connection connected to the base of Transistor. HV doesn't really follow the correct rules of our Electronics of this days.



Hi Jeg,

thanks, but i was refering to the real system, is there a groundplane (copper tube, plate etc.) to be seen there?

Concerning this drawing, there are more connections that does not make sense to me like the Kacher secondary being connected
to ground at the bottom without being connected to the base of the transistor.
Would it work this way?

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« Reply #7070 on: November 22, 2014, 03:20:13 PM »
I suggest you make the Blue coil wound on the Ferrite core to be at least 3 turns on each side, better to be at least one turn or no Ferrite core for more Voltage and Frequency... Just some suggestion.

Guys, I think forget about that Ruslans antenna. We really should follow Tesla's way. Huge difference. With this torrid anntena my frequency jumped up by couple hundreds KHz and the field around is more intense.

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« Reply #7071 on: November 22, 2014, 03:32:15 PM »
The Hv Kacher's is Radiating Positive Charged Particles to be receive by our charged receiving element to be stored as Positive Polarity on the half side of the Capacitors, as Capacitors need to be in equilibrium, basically it needed a Negative Charge Particles, we all know the best zero potential difference is the Earth ground. That is why usually Tesla connect the Negative terminal of the Considerable(Big) Electrostatic Capacity of Condenser on the Earth because he knows it very much that the Earth is the greatest reservoir of Negative Electricity.


Meow ;D

 
  EDIT:
  I had thought previously that half wave DC pulses needed to be superimposed on the Induction coils's AC current pulses.   But now, it looks like the HV Kacher's output, is providing for the negative DC impulses?, to heterodyne with the rectified magnetic induction, on  the induction coils.
So, maybe I had it wrong previously, and now I see the actual way that it's working.  Yes? No?

  AlienGrey:
  Is the Kacher giving off DC then, or AC?  Or both? Is it half wave DC, or, ?
 I guess that I'm still confused...

  Here's an earlier video by Lidmotor showing his Exciter using the exact same transistor that I'm using, (which I still can't get to work), TIP3055, same as my MJE3055.
He also mentions that the 2n3055 did not work, as I also found out.
  Notice his Exciter's primary coil, (pancake style windings). To focus the energy only at best spot on the secondary coil, thus producing higher output with less losses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWnqLv_PLrU

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7072 on: November 22, 2014, 06:16:54 PM »
I found my OU measurement 'error'
I later replaced the 10ohm resistor with a 1k resistor, and was still getting the same voltage...
futher once I connected the probe, I could disconnect the ground from the resistor and the output would still function... so measuring across a current sense resistor of high ohm can lie... but then unless the resistor is less than the wire the scope probe is made of it won't help... maybe if it were carrying more than the 400uA I can get it to be... found a current meter I could put inline later.






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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #7073 on: November 22, 2014, 10:22:55 PM »
This is a Don Smith clip where a Tesla coil user shows some tricks on tuning a Kasha coil.
Some of you might find this topic interesting, if you don't no worries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed5dlh_lr0w

Also if your having problems with basic Physics you might need to visit this site.

https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=583
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 12:38:14 AM by AlienGrey »

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« Reply #7074 on: November 23, 2014, 04:59:37 PM »
Whats up guys, did you give up on this device?? :) 

Just to cheer you up a bit, I spot on the Russian forum Ruslan is going to Litva to some other guy to present his device.

Remember I was speaking about the inventor Alex Romanov? The Friend of Ruslan's.  He has very interesting video showing two Teslas -one Emmiter- on Reciever and he shows the increase in power.  Not much, but with respect to the small size he has made its input is 0.5w and output 0.64w. All this can be scaled up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RocrvQaHZts&list=PLC7684829E98CAD74

I am now putting more wire back to my Kacher. I decided to tune it to 628KHz. That'st he frequency I checked with the scope, giving me a most best result.  Now tell me if I did something wrong:   I used de-coupling capacitor 1pf so -how much is there LC effect than??  And to be honest I do not believe in "perfect" wave resonance. It is still the propagation of wave with respect to the environment.  The wave is somehow distorted or influenced by other properties of the medium.

Also I wanted to ask: Ruslan shows in his hand drawn schematic 1/3 (third harmonic) Kacher   What that mean?? Harmonic to what?   Just wondering as that 628KHz I measured by scope is 1/3 of calculated 1/4 wave frequency.

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« Reply #7075 on: November 23, 2014, 06:45:26 PM »
Yup; just as I get inspired; everyone leaves :)


I wound 2 more ferrite kapagen coils... one with single strand magent wire; it isn't very strong
one with more turns longer, but I think I let some of the end windings droop down; and think I missed the halfway point to wind... but then the one that works well has a little less than half...
but then the core materials are different too.


I also tried replacing the coil with toroidal ferrite core coils that are of similar inductance, and a couple pot cores of varying inductances; the output is not the same.... and cannot get the same sort of resonances...


series capacitance between the coil and load does not affect the frequency, although parallel capacitance does; but additional parallel capacitance reduces the output also. 


there's really no different appraent seapping the output leads of the bifilar coil...


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the voltage at the series capactior is of course AC ... and changing the balance of the load LEDs changes the bias... but with a 1uF 400V cap, there is a bias of 12V with good current/voltage (power) through the white LEDs... although it can be tuned differently... if a resistor is put across this in the order of 10k; a volt or 2 remains... but the current through the load changes signficantly... /voltage biasing... should play with this some more...
but if I put any capacitor (40uF 400V, 9nF 25kV, 2nF, ... ) the load is still lit... and that capacitor doesn't apply to the LC resonance...
adding the bridge rectifier lowers the resonant frequency slightly ...


although with a good square wave generator , parallel capacitance may have less detriment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkkn3b9oxA


that's actually pretty good for a 3v small signal generator...
the signal comes from a very tiny IC component... it can't be more then 30mW input


Edit; had filatment end notation reversed... (it's probably double reversed now and still wrong)

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« Reply #7076 on: November 23, 2014, 07:15:42 PM »
Nice results d3x0r!

Today I used my grenade to load some caps for fun to see what happens. Unexpectedly, my 3uF cap was charged up to 230V in no time. To do this, I short-circuited my inductor line and then I connected it to ground, with nothing else connected to inductor (like yoke 3T secondary). Ruslan seems to managed it again. But, somehow he has a stronger katcher output. This is where we have to give our attention. These days i am going to test katcher with two secondaries in a Hubbard style arrangement. I believe that it will raise voltage without affecting frequency. Will see..


 

 

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« Reply #7077 on: November 23, 2014, 08:10:52 PM »
I revisted that series capacitor voltage differential... the capacitor has a real charge ... that is 35V that can be discharged... and recharges very quickly.  1uF was previously charging at 250ms; but now was only 53ms in this position...
I added another 40uf... so 42uF to 35V in 1.5S (felt faster than that)... a 10k resistor holds 12V ... so 1.2mA ...


well it was faster there than the related bridge rectifier... and I think it would be faster if there wasn't actually a load... when I was first experimenting it seemed it was instantaneous... 250ms is a quarter second... which is pretty long, can't imageine that 1/5 of that... 1/20 of a second is THAT fast.... I guess it is... ... well it charges 5 times faster there I guess...


but I've been tinkering since a couple days with trying to get over 24V... and now I'm up to 35V .. and I don't really know what changed.... the capacitor for sure; but I think I was approaching that voltage before putting that cap inline... it is daytime... I wonder if tonight it won't be as good...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srwZ3xQFL28
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I'm wondering if somehow moving a current A through a low voltage load A... then on the return that current is displaced across the capacitor and can return as the same quantity but a higher voltage?  Impedance mismatch? something ?

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Edit; still 30 mW (35V/1.2mA) uhmm... I guess I was charging the cap to 48 across the bridge rectifier ... so now I have 35 and 13 ... biased differently .... so 48 in 250ms = 35 in 83... or something....


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Edit2: thinking some more
probably going to test max differential with a diode....
1uF (1.5... ) is all ruslan was chargint to 1000... and it took a couple seconds... (going to track the down... it's definatly more than 1 video frame to charge... )  can get an idea of power from time C and V ...
I'm only using 3V input to get 35...


This ferrite kapagen is at 265Khz ... instead of Mhz that the air core was


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« Reply #7078 on: November 23, 2014, 10:19:56 PM »
Whats up guys, did you give up on this device?? :) 

Just to cheer you up a bit, I spot on the Russian forum Ruslan is going to Litva to some other guy to present his device.

Remember I was speaking about the inventor Alex Romanov? The Friend of Ruslan's.  He has very interesting video showing two Teslas -one Emmiter- on Reciever and he shows the increase in power.  Not much, but with respect to the small size he has made its input is 0.5w and output 0.64w. All this can be scaled up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RocrvQaHZts&list=PLC7684829E98CAD74

I am now putting more wire back to my Kacher. I decided to tune it to 628KHz. That'st he frequency I checked with the scope, giving me a most best result.  Now tell me if I did something wrong:   I used de-coupling capacitor 1pf so -how much is there LC effect than??  And to be honest I do not believe in "perfect" wave resonance. It is still the propagation of wave with respect to the environment.  The wave is somehow distorted or influenced by other properties of the medium.

Also I wanted to ask: Ruslan shows in his hand drawn schematic 1/3 (third harmonic) Kacher   What that mean?? Harmonic to what?   Just wondering as that 628KHz I measured by scope is 1/3 of calculated 1/4 wave frequency.


I've been considering this 1/3 frequency thing... it's like this...


3x is a pretty harmonic... if it's layered on 1x of itself, then it gets higher peeks... although it can misalign and have dips at the maximums... but then it gets 2 maxes close together...   I picked this up on my grenade today... using a strip of aluminum tape doubled back on itself... but wrapped around about the width of the windings... and was able to detect a 3x harmonic from the long/shallow end of the coil... and it shifts through resonance at various points being good or bad with the other harmonics...


The frequency is low enough I'm sure it's not because of the scope capacitance... and that it's conincident with the power output ... but it is only 200mV deviations... which are very noisy...


but... in theory you can drive at a 3x frequency and also construct the lower frequency...


Kinda depends if your kacher is actually impulses.....


I made a video showing the waves (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdjtD7DhBk )




was also able to drive it at 1/2 the frequency with a impulse at 25% duty cycle...


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typically I've found if I find a resonance for something using a square wave, I could also use a sine wave and a slightly different frequency and have similar output.  This is very dissimilar output... impulses are totally the key in this scenario... edges... the edges have to be spaced apart ....  using impulses the quick up/down doesn't allow the current to build at all... and anything that went up was quickly brought back down...
 
(like this minor thread... http://www.overunity.com/15105/simple-voltage-boost/#.VHJOQPnF9t4  sim pic below) does not work with sine wave... if the inductance is too high before the capacitor, the current doesn't rise fast enough to cause good voltage...
the self-opposing kapagen is similar... the cross-wires are (probably) actually capacitive points... and might tune inter-coil mismatches with capacitance inbetween... might be a hypothesis...


I'm not sure why the scope-cap at one end of the foil winding is charged differently than the one on the other end....
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Re the sim; the voltage boost thing (not power/energy ...sacrifices amps)... I later made a more complex one with resonant tanks nearby... when enabled...t hose also cause inteferance that cause 3x harmonics.... (maybe 2x... but 2x shifted 90 degrees is almost 3x) 

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« Reply #7079 on: November 23, 2014, 10:51:15 PM »
Whats up guys, did you give up on this device?? :) ................ 



Still working on it, i have changed over to a 24V system, tl494 and the MOSFET drivers run on 15V via voltage regulators.
Yokes primary is now 2x 12 turns, the bifilar coil 11m, which brought down the grenade resonance frequency from 1.685MHz to 1.320MHz  :o
Therefor i had to add wire to the Kacher to have it retuned to this 1.320MHz, but the results are basically the same as with the 12V system.
Nice powerfull streamer of about 5mm at the antenna, pushpull frequency with 0.47uF cap is 26KHz.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuTc7DYl3U4&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

 

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