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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1920859 times)

Offline NoMoreSlave

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Hallo,

Please read this patent (if you can) or look to the drawings, its easy to understand.
The inventor claimes OVERUNITY & SELF-RUNNING Generator in a Static or solide state form.
Just a Toiroid inside a Stepper Motor! ...very easy to test :)

Enjoy
NMS


Offline NoMoreSlave

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Sine+Cosine=Rotation
is what Figuera was doing?

Offline NoMoreSlave

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If someone want to give it a try, let me know.
I will appreciate your comments!
NMS

Offline marathonman

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Hello everyone,

 I get the whole idea of Tesla devise but what i don't get is why did Figueras use the Toroid. i have been studying the pics and i don't see the magnetic flux encircling the toroid just the Bemf taking alternate route aka.... the non powered half.
i have altered the toroid as to my understanding and is pictured below. can someone please show me a pic of the purpose of the toroid as i don't see the flux encircling the toroid only the powered halves ??????

Ps. NMS nice board. what is the purpose of the caps....are they for 90% phase shift or for over lap.

Offline NoMoreSlave

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Hello everyone,

 I get the whole idea of Tesla devise but what i don't get is why did Figueras use the Toroid. i have been studying the pics and i don't see the magnetic flux encircling the toroid just the Bemf taking alternate route aka.... the non powered half.
i have altered the toroid as to my understanding and is pictured below. can someone please show me a pic of the purpose of the toroid as i don't see the flux encircling the toroid only the powered halves ??????

Ps. NMS nice board. what is the purpose of the caps....are they for 90% phase shift or for over lap.

Hallo marathonman,
INMO, the Figuera hexagonal shape is not like Tesla patent.
In your proposal, there is no interaction between the 2 inputs (sine & cosine waves, like used by Tesla)

to answer your question about the caps in the board, there are also indicated in that Spanish patent. The inventor says, the caps collects the excess energy at moment of switch off of the transistor.
INMO, those caps are the KEY to the self-Running, look how they are connected.
attached is translation to English (Bing version!)

PS: could you please resize the piscture. its too big :(

To All,
I was expecting some more comments after posting all that documents. I was hoping to generate some kind of technical comments.
If you thing that are just a BS, please let me know your arguments.

To Stefan,
Warum kann man nicht ein Post editieren um ein Fehler zu korrigieren?
Gruss
NMS

Offline marathonman

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I'm so sorry for the unbelievably large pic i don't know how that happened.but i can't fix it once it is posted...em i think. i edited it in paint and some how it got ballooned and i didn't realize until after i posted. man i think the legally blind can see that...ha ha ha!

thank you for the info!

Offline marathonman

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CADMAN,

 Is this what you were talking about???? it would seem to me that their would be plenty of flux cutting in this diagram. this is worth investigating in my book and after my initial Figueras test. thanks

Offline hanon

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Sine+Cosine=Rotation
is what Figuera was doing?

Hi NMS,

This a concept which need a deep research. It is really interesting. It would be nice if everyone may post his comments about this idea. Your previous sketch is great to visualize your idea.

About the spanish patent No. 395792 that you have posted I have a question: once that the field is enclosed into the toroid it wil take both directions (left and right) and the resulting induction will be null. Am I right? Is there any mean to force the field to go just in one direction?. Maybe inserting a permanent magnet into one part of the toroid ring to avoid spinning in one direction.

NMS, I am also into this project for the same reason that the one you linked in your post about the "Child of my heart". Those children need some solution to have water, food and a chance to have a normal life. With energy all these will be possible (drinking water, electricity, transportation...).
 
Marathonman, the good thing about using a toroid is that the toroid embrace the opposite induced magnetic field into it, this field does not escape from the toroid and then it will never get back to the inducers coil reducing their strenght, so the inducers coil will not suffer from the Lenz effect.

Regards

Offline marathonman

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Thank you Hanon this is what i wanted to hear that the toroid is a less reluctant path.

Offline Cadman

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CADMAN,

 Is this what you were talking about???? it would seem to me that their would be plenty of flux cutting in this diagram. this is worth investigating in my book and after my initial Figueras test. thanks
Yes, very close.

I hope you all won't mind a few more details...

Keep in mind that each coil has two sides, no more, and that one side of the coil is under a N pole coil and the other is under the next S pole coil. Then the next coil starts under that S pole coil and winds to the next N pole coil. Keep going around until the armature is wound. According to the book the individual coils are then connected in series so that there are two circuits of coils (wave winding) each circuit developing half the output amperage. Needless to say, every coil should be identical to every other coil with the same size, number of turns and the same resistance. Wind each one on a form before installing onto the armature. See the book for better details.

The figuera/Buforn current modulation alternately increases the two N poles then the two S poles. All four flux circuits are in play at all times. When the N poles are increased the flux passes into the armature and divides to the two S pole coils, so the S pole coils at that time receive half their flux from each N pole coil. This situation occurs again when the S pole coils are increased and the N poles receive half their flux from each S pole coil. This is why the cross section between the poles of the yoke and between adjacent poles of the armature is half that of one pole itself.

In your picture there should be a center hole in the armature also and it looks as if you have cut down the armature too deeply between the poles. Keep the flux path short to avoid excess reluctance and try to keep the steel cross section as uniform as practical in the flux paths. Number of flux lines per unit area, remember that. If the area decreases or increases too much the flux will be affected. Also, shoot for a minimal clearance between the armature and the pole shoes.

It is best to use a high permeability steel with a known value for both the armature and the field yoke. Regular DC generators can get away with a yoke material that has less permeability because the flux from the pole coils is constant and hysteresis is not a major concern there. That is not the case with the Figuera setup because the flux in the yoke is in an almost constant state of change just as the armature is.

Be careful with the steel. It would be best to use a quality grade with a known permeability value that allows the flux to move equally well in any direction, non grain oriented. If you guess at your steel's permeability then your calculations will be based on that guess. Most electrical steels are grain oriented, passing flux easily in the direction of the grain, but very poorly in other directions. Almost all transformers use grain oriented electrical steel. If you use transformer laminations or other grain oriented electrical steel then bend the lengths across the grain into a U shape and stack them on top of each other to get the needed cross section. Four stacks of U shapes for the four pole yoke and four smaller stacks for the armature in a four pole generator.

If we study the book, do the calculations correctly, choose the materials carefully, and pay attention to detail we can build a working Figuera generator. If the design and build is done correctly the only way it will not work is if the Faraday law of induction is wrong. Really, how could this not work?

@NMS and others with different ideas.
I wish you all success. BTW in case you are interested, the toroid armature is mentioned in the book and the reason given for not using it was economics of materials and difficulty of manufacture compared to the drum armature.

Offline NoMoreSlave

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Hallo Hanon,
I got your message, and I´ll give a feedback :)
I hope that this new illustration make it clear.
there is only two coils switched on at time(every fet switch 2 coils simultaneously, because they are connected in series).
coil 1 is connected to coil6, coil 2 connected to coil7....you end up with coil6 connected to coil1 (different winding set! because each electromagnet has 2 windings)
The transistors are switches sequentially (that is the role of 4017 IC) and the frequency (speed of rotation) is set by the 555 IC.

Thanks Cadman for your help!

Regards,
NMS


Offline hanon

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Everyone,

Please comment this great idea from NoMoreSlave: 

- Two 90º unphased signals are as a Sine wave and a Cosine wave.   Sine (alfa + 90º) = Cosine (alfa)

- If you place both electromagnets at right angle (perpendiculary) then the vector sum of both magnetic field vectors is a ROTATING MAGNETIC FIELD !!!

Please see this gif animation:
http://www.cbe.buffalo.edu/images/people/full_time/furlani/Image_XXZ_2.gif

NoMoreSlave, Please comment this idea a bit deeper. I think this idea has a lot of merit. People will be grateful for a further explanation of your idea in order to grasp it fine.

Sine+Cosine=Rotation
is what Figuera was doing?

Offline stupify12

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There you have it man. I congratulate you. That is I was always talking to you ever since I posted on any thread you make. Rotating Magnetic Field with out reflecting the Load to the Primary Inducing Field.

The B-Field should rotate CLOCKWISE. That is all..

There is no problem  on what NMS posted- after I have read the pdf, yes that device will work greatly on solid state switching. This works the same with the very concept of the Tesla Toroid but in another form.

The Tesla Toroid is composed of 4 wound coils, wound diametrically opposite  by 2 sets. Like this. Top + Bottom,,, Right + Left .
Each Coils has Two Magnetic Pole, so Example of the Top has North and South together with the Bottom Coil has its own North and South.

The resulting Magnetic Pole of the 2 Set Top + Bottom Coil = should be like this NORTH +NORTH and SOUTH + SOUTH on the ring perpendicular from the Two Inducing Primary Coils . I think you know how to wound this coils that it will project those magnetic poles on Two Opposing North and South . The resulting Magnetic Pole of the 2 wound coils (Top + Bottom) is a Magnetic Amplified of the Two Norths and Two South.

It is already been proven from those Bedini Motor builders that the Two The Same magnetic pole(North + North) opposing each other will Amplify the effects of the Magnetic Field.

The same goes for the Right + Left Coils.

Meow   ;D

Everyone,

Please comment this great idea from NoMoreSlave: 

- Two 90º unphased signals are as a Sine wave and a Cosine wave.   Sine (alfa + 90º) = Cosine (alfa)

- If you place both electromagnets at right angle (perpendiculary) then the vector sum of both magnetic field vectors is a ROTATING MAGNETIC FIELD !!!

Please see this gif animation:
http://www.cbe.buffalo.edu/images/people/full_time/furlani/Image_XXZ_2.gif

NoMoreSlave, Please comment this idea a bit deeper. I think this idea has a lot of merit. People will be grateful for a further explanation of your idea in order to grasp it fine.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2014, 11:18:28 AM by stupify12 »

Offline forest

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I think Figuera found a way to decouple field from magnet .The solution ultimately must be the static magnetic flux moving in space. Rotating field is good imho , but it must be not changing in time and strength (not transformer principle but generator principle)

Offline marathonman

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Hi all,

 Found something interesting on internet but man is it to expensive ......SWQO-02 DSP Quadrature Oscillator around 600 bucks. can anyone come up with anything cheaper.
NMS, thanks for the gif it really helped me in my understanding and as i see it it can be done with AC or DC 90 degrees out of phase.

Cadman, the reason i modified the pic is i don't plan on rotating it so no hole. and thanks for the info about non grain oriented iron/steel makes a lot of  sense.

i finished my two channel board construction and am waiting on heat sinks for AC nine channel board.
 (off subject)
 i finished construction of my no amp draw Alarm System for stand alone buildings (Works Great). draws no power until it is tripped and i have it hooked up to a Sim900 GSM auto dialer to notify(Text Message) if building is broke into......shark tank here i come....Whoo who!