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« Reply #1410 on: August 02, 2014, 05:40:23 PM »
Patente 1908 Better Explain.

 The Magnetic Pole is arranged in a Attraction on each opposing Exciter Electromagnets. N and S is only used as representation of Rectangle Electromagnets. The principle works on increase and decrease, this another variation on the Figuera Patente 30378 but works the same.

Take a careful look on the attached drawing and please review the Figuera Patent.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1411 on: August 02, 2014, 08:21:46 PM »
of course, this is the same device  ;)  just now instead of rotating drum coil there is clever switching device, got it ?  :P

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« Reply #1412 on: August 03, 2014, 08:06:41 PM »
A Simplified Method of Selecting Soft Magnetic Alloyshttp://www.cartech.com/techarticles.aspx?id=1624

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« Reply #1413 on: August 03, 2014, 08:16:26 PM »
Hey everyone.
@hanon, thanks for the info. I have since been using capacitors in series with coils to produce a phase difference.

This is what I've been working with. Two E core transformers, sandwiched together, giving me a dual-primary transformer. I don't think this is the proper arrangement for the Figuera generator.

Results are:
1. As arranged in the schematic, with a capacitor in series with one coil, a phase lag is produced. Because I can't measure the phase lag, I can only say it's between 45 and 90 degrees. In this arrangement, the polarity of the coils doesn't matter. Just as with a two-phase motor, changing the polarity of one coil will result in a change of direction; in a two-phase transformer, the output will change by 180 degrees, but will be the same magnitude.

I have verified the phase lag by running the two primaries in parallel/opposition without a capacitor, which as we know will cause no output on the secondary because the two primary fields oppose each other. With the capacitor, the coils can be run in opposition or series, the polarity of the primaries doesn't matter, and an output is produced.

2. The output frequency is different than the input. My input frequency was 60HZ, but I assume the output will be a strange sum of 60HZ along with the lagging 60HZ, due to the mutual induction of the two primaries and secondary. This reminds me of Tesla's patent nu. 382282, http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-382,282-electric-converting-distributing , for which he states, "The inductive effect exerted upon the secondary coils will be mainly due to the shifting or movement of the magnetic action..." Which can be found here: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1888-05-16.htm in the 15th and 16th paragraphs.

3. I have tried using two bridge/full-wave rectifiers to feed the two primaries, but produced little to no output. This was my attempt to use two, DC pulse trains, 90 degrees out of phase, as pictured in my crappy doodles below.

@stupify12, if you could please explain more as to what you think is the proper coil configuration, I might try to produce it, but as you can see, if the two primaries and secondary share the same flux path, like a transformer, I think the results will be the same as what I have achieved.

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« Reply #1414 on: August 04, 2014, 01:11:13 AM »
In a spanish forum a user has suggested to use the attached scheme to get the  90° out of phase; it has two diode bridges to have just positive signals. It is easy to test it. What do you think of this proposal?

Antijon,  I think that Figuera configuration was with all the coils aligned without closing the magnetic circuit. Just as sketched in the patent drawing

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« Reply #1415 on: August 04, 2014, 01:45:02 AM »
@hanon, that's the circuit I tried... I'll try it again with more input power and see what I get. Thanks, I'll try also on a single inductor shaft.

I think you're right about the linear coils, but the statement that makes me wonder is, "The machine is essentially characterized by two series of electromagnets which form the inductor circuit, between whose poles the reels of the induced are properly placed." Taken from http://www.rexresearch.com/figuera/figuera.htm#patents Spanish Patent # 4426, Notes section. The "induced circuit" is the only location he refers to as a "reel" coil... strange, because he refers to the primaries as electromagnets. What exactly is a reel coil? He also says, "properly placed," which makes me think there's more to this than just the way the primaries are powered.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1416 on: August 04, 2014, 07:55:56 AM »
Hey everyone.
@hanon, thanks for the info. I have since been using capacitors in series with coils to produce a phase difference.

This is what I've been working with. Two E core transformers, sandwiched together, giving me a dual-primary transformer. I don't think this is the proper arrangement for the Figuera generator.


@stupify12, if you could please explain more as to what you think is the proper coil configuration, I might try to produce it, but as you can see, if the two primaries and secondary share the same flux path, like a transformer, I think the results will be the same as what I have achieved.

Hello antijon,

I think all in this forum is very confuse on what is the actually operation of this Figuera Generator- it is because we think much more complicated theories and design of what we could think of. Actually the Figuera Generator is so simple that it follows the Faraday Law of Induction and re design the principles behind the rotation of the DC Dynamo Motor, and eliminating the rotation of either the Generating Rotor and Permanent Excitator Electromagnets of Stator in a DC Generator by using the Increase and Decrease Intensity of Magnetization on the Cores.

Think of this. The DC Generator has separated Rotor/Armature and Stator Permanent Magnet. So we will now put that in our Figuera Generator Design- The Excitator Electromagnets Stator should have a separated Laminted/Soft Iron Core from Induced Generating Coils. The DC Generator has 2 Permanent Magnet in a Magnetic Attraction position.
What we need to re produce Figuera Generator.

1.Because it is motionless. We need a 2 separated Electromagnets(This electromagnet is wound in a U shape form to project it's North in one end, and South in the other end. We need two of this U shape Electromagnet to make a attractive magnetic force between the 2 U shape electromagnets configure like this.

The 1st U North end will face the 2nd U South end.
The 1st U South end will face the 2nd U North end.
 U shape core / I think all of you already know the PMH= Perpetual Magnet Holder something like that.

The 2nd U North end will face the 1st U South end.
The 2nd U South end will face the 1st U North end.

How could Figuera imitate the rotation of Induced Coils with out movement? Well it is simple. The only special Figuera did is the Rotationg Variable Resistor. The two U shape core is being fed with a Positive Terminal  from the Commutator.
The feeding is like swiping the Variable Resistor from Left to Right/ Right to Left. The input of the Positive terminal is in the Mid Point of this Variable Resistor.

Let's say, that the 1st U shape core is on the maximum magnetization then the Induced Coils are now being cut with the flux of the 1st U electromagnet. The 1st U shape induced Maximum North- South flux on the Induced Coils, because of the variable excitation with the help of the Elementary Drawn Resistor, when the wiper is connected to the center of the Wire Wound Resistor there is now two equal flux the 1st U shape North-South and the 2 U shape South-North until the wiper pass the midpoint, Magnetizing the 2nd U shape South-North maximum flux while the North-South of the 1st U shape is on the minimum magnetic flux.

The resulting waveform on the Induced coils is now more like a Alternating Current. That is the reason Tesla had mention on one of his letters that he has long ago found the principles behind on Figuera Generator, which Tesla mean was the Alternating Current.

I hope that my explaination will not add more confusion on you guys. Happy to share this ideas and thoughts with others.

Meow.


Figuera Quote!
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Because we all know that the effects that are manifested when a closed
circuit approaches and moves away from a magnetic center are the same as
when, this circuit being still and motionless, the magnetic field is increased
and reduced in intensity; since any variation , occurring in the flow traversing
a circuit is producing electrical induced current.

Figuera
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It was considered the
possibility of building a machine that would work, not in the principle of
movement, as do the current dynamos, but using the principle of increase
and decrease, this is the variation of the power of the magnetic field, or the
electrical current which produces it.


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magnetize one or more
electromagnets and, while the current is higher or lower the magnetization of
the electromagnets is decreasing or increasing and varying, therefore, the
intensity of the magnetic field , this is, the flow which crosses the induced
circuit.





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« Reply #1417 on: August 04, 2014, 08:01:19 AM »
@hanon, that's the circuit I tried... I'll try it again with more input power and see what I get. Thanks, I'll try also on a single inductor shaft.

I think you're right about the linear coils, but the statement that makes me wonder is, "The machine is essentially characterized by two series of electromagnets which form the inductor circuit, between whose poles the reels of the induced are properly placed." Taken from http://www.rexresearch.com/figuera/figuera.htm#patents Spanish Patent # 4426, Notes section. The "induced circuit" is the only location he refers to as a "reel" coil... strange, because he refers to the primaries as electromagnets. What exactly is a reel coil? He also says, "properly placed," which makes me think there's more to this than just the way the primaries are powered.

Any thoughts?

The two series of electromagnets which form the inductor circuit- is the picture on the above post. The reels is the Induced Coils/Generating Coils place between this two U shape Electromagnets.

I think you should focus on the Variable Excitation/Variable Resistance with Two Output on each end, the input Positive terminal is connected on the Midpin .


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1418 on: August 04, 2014, 06:41:59 PM »
A good site for inspiration http://www.uky.edu/~eushe2/Pajares/OnFailingG.html

  Edison made 1000 not working light bulbs before the one that did. Without those failures it may have never happened and we would still be using carbon lights gas lights or candles.

 Go back to the beginning starting with the magnet. There are two inducer magnets and one induced coil. The inducers reprsent 2/3 rds of the device. Master the majority, the magnet.
 

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« Reply #1419 on: August 08, 2014, 03:05:12 PM »
Hi all,

Good news!! I think I have solved the principle under one of the Figuera´s patent. I am referring to patent No. 30376 (year 1902), the one with the rotary induced circuit and stationary internal and external electromagnets (Link to pdf). This is not the patent from year 1908 with the variable fields. In this patent a SINGLE MOVING WIRE crosses between TWO OPPOSITE MAGNET POLES. According to Figuera´s patent text this configuration produces electricity without dragging the movement of the induced wire.

The key for avoiding dragging is the use of two opposite poles to generate the induction in the intermediate wire:  N -- | -- S  ; in contrast with common generators with just one pole exposed to the induced wire.

       1- A wire is moved between two opposite poles: North and South

       2- As a consequence an induce current will appear in the wire

       3- This induced current generates a magnetic field (B) around the wire

       4- One pole (let´s say  N pole) will repel the wire because of magnetic repulsion with the magnetic field in the wire (creating a drag). But the other pole ( S pole in our example) will attract the wire (magnetic attraction between the S pole and the wire)

       5- Therefore the net sum of both forces (repulsion + attraction) will be null and the wire finally will be moved without any drag while at the same time will generate an induced current.

I think it is as simple as explained here. Figuera also stated that he could not believe how such a simple principle had not been used before him.

All Figuera´s patents are based on the induction created between two electromagnets, instead of common induction with just one pole exposed. IMHO, This is the key of his discovery.

I attach a schematic of the generator (patent 30376) done by Ufopolitics (in EF forum). Also I attach an sketch with the representation of this principle. Please study this sketch and tell your comments.

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« Reply #1420 on: August 08, 2014, 07:06:11 PM »
Yes, hanon. ;)  Precisely I think Figuera used already available dynamo machine and modified it to get slight space between armature coils and rotor, then rewound rotor to become strong electromagnet of the same strength as armature coils and placed rotating drum -output coils between them exactly in the center. The essence is good positioning.

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« Reply #1421 on: August 08, 2014, 07:34:48 PM »
There you have it. Finally others are now starting to understand this invention. There is two of this Generators which is exactly the same with Nikola Tesla's generator. Either the Excitator Electromagnets or the Induced Close Circuit Coil is rotating which are both the same.

But I preferred the Nikola Tesla High Frequency Generator to be design like this. That machine is a beast on its own design, together with this robust  evolution.

Hope that you get soon to understand the Principle behind the Stationary Excitator Electromagnets and Induced Close Circuits Generating Coils. All are still the same following the Law of Induction which was discovered by Faraday. It is so simple that you should think like a box. Hehehehe. I think the patent from Stanley Meyer help alot in understanding this matter.

By the way. This invention was clearly described by Nikola Tesla on his modification of the Homopolar Generator on one of his books. It is cleary drawn in diagram  while Tesla describe how does it operate.


Meow..

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« Reply #1422 on: August 09, 2014, 12:43:11 PM »
Hi all,

This same principle is also used into Hogan and Jakovlewich overunity generator  (see this link to the Hogan & Jakovlewich patent ). This generator also used TWO OPPOSITE MAGNETS sandwiching the induced wire to create induction.

It clear that some atipical behaviour happens when the induction is forced to occur between two opposite magnetic poles.

A press reporter who witnessed Figuera´s device in 1902 said that "the invention consited of a motor, a generator and a kind of governor or regulator. The whole system being so simple that a child could work it."

    - A motor --> to move the induced wire . Just a small motor , because the wire didn´t suffered from dragging

    - A generator --> a device as described in Figuera patent 30376
   
    - A governor --> maybe to regulate the motor speed, or to feedback the motor with part of the produced current

Please see in this link the thread of Hogan and Jakovlewich generator:

www.overunity.com/14755/hogan-and-jakovlewich-overunity-generator/

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« Reply #1423 on: August 10, 2014, 04:06:24 PM »
An Axial flux core-less gen does have drag on the windings caused by the output to load bmf. No overunity there.Your model does not include the effects of the field created in the induced coil by the loads attached to it.
  "When all ells fails try following the directions" I read that on a base ball cap somewhere.

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« Reply #1424 on: August 11, 2014, 06:43:51 AM »
@Hanon

I think its much better if the capacitor is placed at the primary of the transformer. If the primary of the transformer is tuned to resonance, this would produce 90 degree out of phase voltage in the output of the transformer.

 

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