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Author Topic: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.  (Read 6217 times)


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Offline mondrasek

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Re: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2013, 02:08:22 PM »
Webby, you must live in California?
 
Sadly, no, there are no "Tesla Dealerships" where I live.  Tesla only sells direct from the factory to where I live and does not plan to set up dealerships in the rest of the country.  That eliminates a lot of costs from the total price of the vehicle as well as much revenue for the State in which I live.  So that sales model is being banned by some States.  They want Tesla to build dealerships to level the playing field with the other automakers as well as prevent the skirting of the State taxes and other "benefits" the dealerships bring to their locations.
 
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Re: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2013, 08:26:31 PM »
Don't forget the jobs and payroll taxes that a dealership includes!  And YES I would want a dealership service center.  At least until the local private shops can get up to speed on the tech.
 
I'm not for or against it at the moment.  I have only watched the legal battles on the subject haphazardly as it relates to the automotive business that my work intersects.  I'd be more involved if a Tesla was something I wanted or was able to own right now.  Unfortunately it does not have the range for someone who travels as frequently and as far as my job requires.  I'd be looking at a Volt myself if I was going to switch to a hybrid/electric.  But with all the new and exciting battery technology popping up right now, it might be better to wait?
 
Either way, I'm not in the market for a new vehicle so I have not given all those questions serious consideration.
 
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Re: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2013, 08:26:31 PM »
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Re: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2013, 09:30:35 PM »
I can already go down to my local Tesla dealer and buy one,, well if I had enough money, and there are many driving around here, both the little sports car and the large family car,, so are you saying you can not do this in all states due to some laws ??

Auto Dealer Association is trying to prevent Tesla from selling cars directly to customers. In a lot of people's opinion, including mine, the dealer provide nothing positive to customers. Most people hate the buying a car experience from a dealer. I witness my friend buying a Model S and it was such a pleasant experience. no pushing, no trying to sell you extra stuff.  buying a car should be as easy as buying a toaster oven.

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Re: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2013, 12:41:01 AM »
I agree that some dealers are worse than useless, but some are not.

I have friends that work in dealerships as mechanics, and it seems that most of their work is warranty stuff topped up with up-sales.

Up-sales are those additional things they find that might need to be addressed, at full shop rate and full list price.

I agree that requiring an in state facility should not be a law, it should be the market that dictates whether or not there is one,, let the dollar do the speaking.

I used to work for a Honda Dealer as a Service Advisor, so I know exactly what the Up-Sales are all about. most of the time it is recommendations that are not needed. the problem is that most Service advisor's get paid on commissions, so if they don't up-sell they don't make any money. I was miserable, could not live with my self doing that job and got out of it.
 

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Re: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.
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Offline Electrojolt

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Re: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2013, 03:50:18 PM »
Help a US company to a chance competing in the free market - lobbyist are trying to limit your choice!
As we speak lobbyists around the US are convincing state legislators to limit free market choice and want to tell you what you can and cannot buy. They want to make sure you spend thousands of dollars in car dealerships while you could save your money buying a US made car directly at the store or over the internet just like any other thing you buy from Apple or Amazon.

What is this about?
In times without internet and when creating national distribution networks was hard, car makers relied on a network of independent dealerships to sell their cars. Over time, and in an effort to protect the investment of the dealerships, franchise laws were developed to prevent car makers competing with their own dealerships. In an effort to overreach this basic protection, car dealer lobbyists are now trying to prevent any car maker from selling cars directly, even if that car maker does not have any dealerships. This limits the free market and mandates a "middle man" who adds hundreds of dollars to every car sale - money you pay!

Why is it important to you now?
 In the past weeks and months several states (Texas, New York, North Carolina, Massachusetts amongst other) have succeeded in, or tried to limit the sales of Tesla cars through laws that ensured car dealers a protected market without free-market competition. If you want US innovation to be available to all US customers you need to act now before it is too late!

What can you do to help?
Sign the petition to ensure that a US company can sell us made cars in all of the US. Attention, the deadline is July 5th so sign the petition now!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-tesla-motors-sell-directly-consumers-all-50-states/bFN7NHQR

 The petition still needs about 30.000 signatures - an achievable goal but only if we act now. Please sign the petition now and let your friends and family know about the petition and why it is important.

Key questions:
 Why can't Tesla just sell through dealers?

 First, selling an electric car takes more time and effort than a gasoline car. So traditional car dealers will not sell the car. Don't believe this? Go to a GM dealer and ask about the Volt!
 Second, Tesla does not focus on selling but on educating customers and does not operate stores based on commissions. So the buying experience with Tesla is much more pleasant than with pushy car dealers.
 Third, car dealers make most money on service, financing and other add-ons. Electric cars like the Tesla have very little service requirements (no oil changes etc.) so it will be hard to make money off Tesla service. Another reason car dealers don't like the car.

This is America, how come legislators lend an ear to the car dealers?
 While car dealers like to project themselves as small business they are often multimillion conglomerates spanning many sates which are a contributing large amounts of money to local and state political candidates. This ensures that politicians feel pressured to responding to their demands even though all public opinion polls are showing that the people want Tesla to sell cars directly without the middle man. So make your voice heard, say now to lobbyists restricting the free market and sign the petition now!

Offline mikestocks2006

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Re: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2013, 06:23:06 PM »
This may be of interest:

Why You Can't Buy a New Car Online
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/02/why-you-cant-buy-new-car-online
 
Thanks
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Re: Allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states.
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2013, 06:23:06 PM »
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