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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1211605 times)

Offline x_name41

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #720 on: June 04, 2014, 04:57:04 AM »
here's the scheme on a Serb, from video on youtube, sorry for ugliest drawing, but I could not on a better :)
« Last Edit: June 04, 2014, 08:06:44 AM by x_name41 »

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #721 on: June 04, 2014, 07:16:51 AM »
    How I wish that the above diagram were true and that it's that easy to implement. But I find it hard to believe...
  Maybe one of us can replicate it, and obtain the same results as Mr. Savic.
  Possibly a tv yoke can be used instead of the big toroid core.

   Hopefully he will continue on with this, get rid of the basket, clean up the connection wires and connect more bulbs to show what more it can actually do. Who knows what potential it really has.
   
« Last Edit: June 04, 2014, 04:07:17 PM by NickZ »

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #722 on: June 04, 2014, 12:41:42 PM »
I think, that the primary is not so normal, if you look closer you see that the transformer windings are intersected clock and counter clock direction.  ;)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #722 on: June 04, 2014, 12:41:42 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #723 on: June 04, 2014, 12:45:55 PM »
This is very interesting:

prezi.com/5u4p81mxrstx/no-lenz-but-resonance/


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #724 on: June 05, 2014, 07:39:27 PM »
iS THE BROWN WIRE lIVE   AND BLUE  nEUTRAL   ???   THANKS

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #724 on: June 05, 2014, 07:39:27 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #725 on: June 05, 2014, 09:04:37 PM »
In Serbia is standard brown/black=live, blue= neutral, yellow=ground.


IN comments profesor is talking something about you must know tesla fizic and mathematic for calculate and bringing  resonance in several stages.   (IMHO turns and thicknes of wires)

Offline Farmhand

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #726 on: June 05, 2014, 09:31:27 PM »
Good question Totoalas, The convention in Australia is live-brown, neutral blue, earth green, but I think the drawing is color coded wrong.
In this case it is especially important to be clear which wire is which. If people wire up their own cables it would be easy to wire them
up however and in a lot of cases it might work ok until death or problems occur if the brown is wired as neutral in the plug and
connected as live in the device.  Here looking at a socket the left lead is the live and the right the neutral, then looking at a plug
about to be inserted the same rule applies but if we look at the plug from the pins side the right one is live and the left one is neutral.

Having said that if the device output is neutral and Earth there would be little to no potential difference to cause current as the
neutral is connected to the ground, if not it is hardly "neutral".  The possibility that leaves, is that the output wires consists of a
connection through to the live wire of the grid and the ground wire which is connected to the neutral wire on the other side of the
meter/fuse box.

 Now if a current can be maintained between the live wire and the ground, the entire system is extremely dangerous as is any
device connected to the house wiring system also potentially dangerous.. It means there is no residual current device or safety
switch as some call them, the RCD/safety switch will shut off current if a mismatch of current between live and neutral occurs over
the rated 30 mA or so.

Now if the energy meter is seeing only 50 Watts or so at 240 volts then that's 0.208 amps, if any difference of current over 30 mA
is detected between the live and neutral lines then the RCD/safety switch will trip to save lives, if one is fitted. If no RCD/safety
switch is fitted I suggest getting one fitted.

The neutral wire should be held at or about ground potential, so there should be no possibility of any currents flowing between it
and the Earth, the only other possibility is that the live is using the ground as a return and bypassing the meter.

A 2.5 amp rated cable can take significantly more current than 2.5 amps for some time. The cable containing the wires for my
vacuum rated at 2000 Watts is quite small, the cable gets warm, very warm with use, it pulls 8.3 amps at 240 volts.

Along with any claim there should be clear information about the actual wiring of the device ( with clear labeled drawing ).


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Looking at the video of the guy squatting down near the grid connected device with boiling water and connections everywhere,
then seeing him nearly fall over made me wonder how long he will live if he continues to experiment in that way.

Safety switches save lives. We can't use stuff if our body is dead. It also upsets loved ones and others if people die in silly ways.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #726 on: June 05, 2014, 09:31:27 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #727 on: June 05, 2014, 10:25:24 PM »
yes, better would be if the Serb had made measurements of the current on the input with current clamp :)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #728 on: June 05, 2014, 10:35:33 PM »
Thanks Farmhand for the SAFETY First   reminder//////
in 66 KV system Im working on,  the step down transformer  has 3  66 kv / 11 kv   each phase
and 3 separate 11 KV Neutral  transformers   the size half of a car  directly burried and connected to ground
Altechlabs circuit using two input frequencies on both ends of a bifilar coil  and placed on top of a bifilar coil out to step diode rectifier  parallel with cap  i think is like a jln induction cooker experiment
My experiment with aluminum foil wrapped supply cord on an a/c 1 hp 220 v ac 50 hx load  has some effect on the digital power meter   one cycle is 58 seconds without foil  and 157 seconds with  foil.....  just sharing....

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #728 on: June 05, 2014, 10:35:33 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #729 on: June 11, 2014, 11:05:48 PM »
Other video from nenad.  :)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KGWNQJO-go

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #730 on: June 12, 2014, 02:00:03 AM »
Other video from nenad.  :)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KGWNQJO-go
A Google translation from one of his video's says: " This is a demonstration of my patent examination work.
My electron pump from the planet takes the free electrons and is powered by six bulbs. Input power to the device is 20W and 410W output, ratio of output power to input power to the device is 20 times. Ipitivanje performed electrical engineer prof.Emil Peić"
It looks like he has a replication of Barbosa and Leal's concept.   

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #730 on: June 12, 2014, 02:00:03 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #731 on: June 13, 2014, 08:43:38 AM »
Hi Guys,

Can anyone share all the images posted by Mr.Ariovaldo of Electron capture assembly. Looks like some interested thing i found &  i can disclose once it's confirmed by looking at all the images.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #732 on: June 13, 2014, 08:47:47 AM »
check out 3 layers wound of toroidal core . More explanation in detail once i view the images. Request guys to share image

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #733 on: June 13, 2014, 05:26:33 PM »
I did some tests trying to emulate the barbosa device. This device, under my tests, did not generate more energy than it spends.
When doing the measures, please check the phase current, because this device in getting the current from the grid ( input phase wire ) and sending the current to earth. The neutral current from input is almost zero, than if you get the wattmeter measuring the current from neutral, you will measure a huge gain. This device appears be fooling the wattmeter, Savic needs to publish the current from phase, not from a wattmeter that we don't know how works.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #734 on: June 14, 2014, 11:51:48 AM »
Prof Nenad Savic has removed all Barbosa's video ........

 

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