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Author Topic: Auroratek self sustainable technologies Overunity to market in Arizona USA  (Read 56344 times)

Offline MarkE

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OK, I give up. I don't remember Bill Alek ever actually presenting a fraudulent actual device like Yildiz does, he has always been more in the category of making claims without evidence and projecting into the future, like Goldes and others of that ilk. So that's what I expect you'll see at the trade show: a poster presentation, maybe but probably not an actual scooter, and definitely no actual battery self-charger demonstration or a scooter that recharges itself, driving around the parking lot for three days, giving kiddies rides. (Does it have a horn thingie they can toot-toot-toot?)
Bill Alek has gone to at least two trade shows now with scooters in static displays.  When Sterling Allan last checked in on how Bill Alek was doing with his promise of working chargers for April 2014, Bill Alek told Sterling that the firmware wasn't working yet.  You and I both know that it never will.  There is a deficiency in uC instruction sets whereby they lack a rcall_magic instruction.

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Offline ramset

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Mark
can you post a link to the Solar Hydrogen tech "manure Pale" interview you are referring to?

Such a classy bunch..

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Chet


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Mark
can you post a link to the Solar Hydrogen tech "manure Pale" interview you are referring to?

Such a classy bunch..

Thx
Chet
Chet, sure:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYliDUI8bY4

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Mark
Just got back from a week on the road ,I will have a longer look at that interview.
[could only sit thru the first 5 minutes so far...


I will add some things here ,I did speak with Jack and had offered him a peer review thru some associates [was in active negotiations at the time With Stamford Tech] , I have also spoken with the test lab that ran his DUT and specifically with the engineer who handled the run.


The real fellow to speak with here would be Konstantine Balakiryan  [whom I have not spoken with
If he ever gets interviewd [away from Jack]all bets are off..........
this work is his legacy and he is a compassionate and brilliant  man.


However Jack and his money have been on the table for the last 15 years..


thx
Chet
ps I will watch the interview
and also be calling Aurora from the other company tomorrow.

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Chet I think you will find Jack's interview instructive as to just how freely SHT are spreading complete manure.    You are not the only one to offer or actually send technically competent experts to SHT.  In the cases that I am familiar with, SHT would not have any of that sort of thing.

The copyright infringement issues are the least of Auroratek's problems.  The main problem is that they cannot deliver.  Bill Alek's theory is all based on erroneous measurements and pseudoscience bafflegab.

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To those making a FLAP about the word "Jetson" on the scooter you are wrong.   Firstly it does not say Jetsons which was always the name in the TV series and it does not even use the same FONT.   It only says Jetson in a completely different style of writing or font.   Does TBS own the word "Jetson" ?   I seriously doubt it and they will never bother Auroratek unless of course they start raking in billions at which time you might get some greedy corporate lawyers involved.   
You can say all the bad things you want about Bill but who are you to judge him?   It seems Bill has a rather impressive resume if you bothered to look beyond his esoteric interests you seem so focused on.   I'm fairly certain his only reason for looking at some of those esoteric things were part of getting involved with Aurora Light.   
Some thing you may have missed about Bill Alek:  " in addition to 25 years work experience in embedded electrical, computer hardware and software engineering, Bill has worked as a Senior Engineer at several large companies, including Boeing."
What are your qualifications Mark?   

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To those making a FLAP about the word "Jetson" on the scooter you are wrong.   Firstly it does not say Jetsons which was always the name in the TV series and it does not even use the same FONT.   It only says Jetson in a completely different style of writing or font.   Does TBS own the word "Jetson" ?   I seriously doubt it and they will never bother Auroratek unless of course they start raking in billions at which time you might get some greedy corporate lawyers involved.   
You can say all the bad things you want about Bill but who are you to judge him?   It seems Bill has a rather impressive resume if you bothered to look beyond his esoteric interests you seem so focused on.   I'm fairly certain his only reason for looking at some of those esoteric things were part of getting involved with Aurora Light.   
Some thing you may have missed about Bill Alek:  " in addition to 25 years work experience in embedded electrical, computer hardware and software engineering, Bill has worked as a Senior Engineer at several large companies, including Boeing."
What are your qualifications Mark?

LOL, keep trying.

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To those making a FLAP about the word "Jetson" on the scooter you are wrong.   Firstly it does not say Jetsons which was always the name in the TV series and it does not even use the same FONT.   It only says Jetson in a completely different style of writing or font.   Does TBS own the word "Jetson" ?   I seriously doubt it and they will never bother Auroratek unless of course they start raking in billions at which time you might get some greedy corporate lawyers involved.   
You can say all the bad things you want about Bill but who are you to judge him?   It seems Bill has a rather impressive resume if you bothered to look beyond his esoteric interests you seem so focused on.   I'm fairly certain his only reason for looking at some of those esoteric things were part of getting involved with Aurora Light.   
Some thing you may have missed about Bill Alek:  " in addition to 25 years work experience in embedded electrical, computer hardware and software engineering, Bill has worked as a Senior Engineer at several large companies, including Boeing."
What are your qualifications Mark?
Dude, using sound alike or derived terms that an average person would confuse with trademarked material is an infringement of the trademark.  Dropping the "s" does not distinguish from TBS' trademarks.   TBS can at anytime act.  As a matter of protecting their trademark, they are compelled to act once they become aware of the infringement.  If you suffer the misconception that Bill's label:  "Jetson Scooter" is not infringing, write a letter to TBS legal and ask them.  By doing so you will both get an authoritative answer and force them to act against Bill's infringement.

Bill's taken what is not his and he is promoting guff.  Those are facts.  I have not alleged malice.  I leave it to others to evaluate the person committing the acts.  Bill may be a good firmware engineer.  That does not change the incontrovertible fact that his claims concerning collecting free energy are false.  It does not change the incontrovertible fact that he is infringing on TBS's trademarks.  It is conceivable that Bill doesn't understand trademarks any better than you do.  It is also conceivable, (I assert that it is very likely) that Bill has deluded himself with poorly designed and executed experiments.

I make my arguments based on verifiable evidence.  While I have a very nice CV, I do not use it to rely on authority for the positions I state.



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Well you may be right about the trademark thing.  I'm no expert on that but didn't think it was anything to be concerned about.   However I take exception to you saying it is an "incontrovertible fact that his claims concerning collecting free energy are false."   That is very disputable.   What proof do you have that his claims are false?   Have you even had your hands on any of his SmartPak devices?   Done tests on them?   I say you are simply doing what you usually do and say it's false knowing most of the time you will be right.   If I'm wrong let's see your incontrovertible proof that his claims are false.

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I think this guy would just buy the bike from the real supplier and peel off the original decals and then stick on his own.  So he is an 'unofficial' reseller.  I also think that he did a drive-by on the picture and simply Photoshopped it.

What a wonderful world.

And I laugh at the "Dollar Store" build quality of the bike.  It's a joke.  The bottom feeder in the market.  You could probably buy those bikes for like $200 if you were high volume and legit.  Then sell it at chain stores one level below Walmart for $395, or whatever you think the magic price point is.

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Well you may be right about the trademark thing.  I'm no expert on that but didn't think it was anything to be concerned about.   However I take exception to you saying it is an "incontrovertible fact that his claims concerning collecting free energy are false."   That is very disputable.   What proof do you have that his claims are false?   Have you even had your hands on any of his SmartPak devices?   Done tests on them?   I say you are simply doing what you usually do and say it's false knowing most of the time you will be right.   If I'm wrong let's see your incontrovertible proof that his claims are false.

I'll tell you what. YOU go ahead and buy a SmartPak from Aurora. Have it drop-shipped to me, and I'll put it through a battery of tests (no pun intended) and send it back to you. If it works as advertised, you win (and so does everyone else including me) and the testing will be free.  If it does NOT work as advertised, you can return it to Bill for a full refund, but I'll send you an invoice for my testing. 
And if you or I do not receive what you've paid for in a reasonable time.... then there may be other recourse available.

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Tinsel
I like that .....or some variation !




We shall see?


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Well you may be right about the trademark thing.  I'm no expert on that but didn't think it was anything to be concerned about.   However I take exception to you saying it is an "incontrovertible fact that his claims concerning collecting free energy are false."   That is very disputable.   What proof do you have that his claims are false?   Have you even had your hands on any of his SmartPak devices?   Done tests on them?   I say you are simply doing what you usually do and say it's false knowing most of the time you will be right.   If I'm wrong let's see your incontrovertible proof that his claims are false.
I have on my side the mountain of evidence that the First Principles are correct.  Bill Alek offers zero documentation of ANY exception.  That's: point, set, and match.

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I'll tell you what. YOU go ahead and buy a SmartPak from Aurora. Have it drop-shipped to me, and I'll put it through a battery of tests (no pun intended) and send it back to you. If it works as advertised, you win (and so does everyone else including me) and the testing will be free.  If it does NOT work as advertised, you can return it to Bill for a full refund, but I'll send you an invoice for my testing. 
And if you or I do not receive what you've paid for in a reasonable time.... then there may be other recourse available.

That sounds very fair to me.  All questions answered one way or the other.

On the other hand, TK you are still owed a $100 donation to a no kill animal shelter by that gravity wheel guy so...trust but verify.

Bill

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I'll tell you what. YOU go ahead and buy a SmartPak from Aurora. Have it drop-shipped to me, and I'll put it through a battery of tests (no pun intended) and send it back to you. If it works as advertised, you win (and so does everyone else including me) and the testing will be free.  If it does NOT work as advertised, you can return it to Bill for a full refund, but I'll send you an invoice for my testing. 
And if you or I do not receive what you've paid for in a reasonable time.... then there may be other recourse available.

I'm not 100% convinced Bill will have the 'never plug in' battery charger in the near future or ever but I'm willing to wait and see without saying it's not possible.  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because I know he is an  engineer with good credentials and has been at this concept a long time.  I don't believe we as a human race know everything there is to know at this point in time.  I think there are still new things to be discovered that will break old paradigms and some laws of science.  My casual interest in Bills charger is not because it's a good free energy device but because it would be unique.  Right now with the price he has on his basic charger one can get solar cells that will put out more than 20 amps @ 12 volts for less money.  So as long as there is Sun you would get more for your battery charging money with solar.   
   
     If I did buy one I think I'm capable of testing a battery charger myself.  After all I've got 4 Oscilloscopes including a 400 MHz digital Phillips, 2 digital Fluke meters along with other ones (unlike the cheapy Harbor Freight looking ones you seem to always show TK - although I know you have other decent equipment - why no quality meters?), a frequency counter, digital function generators and so on although I'm sure one could come up with some good tests that wouldn't even need all that equipment.  I'm not considering buying one but I won't close the door on this idea.  I just wish some others here could see there are infinite possibilities and we have barely scratched the surface ....  think about where things were just 50 years ago.  Most people know about or have a smartphone (calling them smartphone barely hints at what they really are - a high powered multicore CPU hand held voice or touch controlled computer with billions of bytes of storage and mutliple long distance audio and visual communication capabilities and mutliple sensors including gloabal positioning, magnetometer, accelerometer, compass, proximity sensor,ambient light sensor, gyroscope, barometer, visual recorder and temperature sensor to name a few - sort of like a Star Trek Tricorder telecommunicator combined all in a 5 ounce hand held package :) ).  I'm quite sure scientists 40 or 50 years ago would have said some of the things a smartphone can do would be impossible.   Could they have even dreamed it would be possible?  Think 100 years ago what scientists would have thought about you if you gave them the complete description of a smartphone.   

 

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