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Offline steeltpu

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Do you naturally doubt new device xyz has any chance of overunity?   are you sure the new guy posting a free energy device is scamming everyone?
do you persist in mistrusting new out of the box ideas?   
well it looks like your lifespan is going to be shorter and dementia will rule your future along with other maladies. 

news article on your type:

Curmudgeons of the world, listen up: This line of negative thinking might actually hurt your health.
 
A new study in the latest edition of Neurology, the journal of the American Academy of Neurology, found that cynical people have a higher likelihood of developing dementia.
 
"There have been previous studies that showed that people who were cynical were more likely to die earlier and have other poor health outcomes, but no one that we could
 tell ever looked at dementia," said Anna-Maija Tolppanen, one of the study's authors and a professor at the University of Eastern Finland. "We have seen some studies that
 show people who are more open and optimistic have a lower risk for dementia so we thought this was a good question to ask."
 
Studying cynicism
 
Summary: The most cynical people in this study had more than double the risk of dementia
Cynicism is also linked to higher rates of cancer-related deaths and cardiovascular disease
Cynical people tend to have a greater stress response, which can lead to inflammation
 
Cynicism is a deep mistrust of others. Psychologists consider it a kind of chronic anger that develops over time.
 
Specifically, the kind of cynicism researchers looked at involved doubting the truth of what people say and believing most people are motivated by self-interest rather than
 by what is best for the community.
 
Village only for people with dementia
 
The study tested 1,449 people with an average age of 71. The study participants took a test for dementia. A separate test measured their level of cynicism. Both tests are
 considered reliable by researchers.
 
The cynicism test asks if the person agrees with statements like "Most people will use somewhat unfair reasons to gain profit or an advantage rather than lose it"; "I think
most people would lie to get ahead"; and "It is safer to trust nobody."
 
Those who agreed with the critical statements in the test were considered highly cynical. The people with the highest level of cynical distrust had a 2.54 times greater risk
 of dementia than those with the lowest cynicism rating.
 
Researchers also examined the test results to see if the subjects who were labeled highly cynical died sooner than the others. But once compounding factors were screened
out, they did not. Previous studies have shown a link between cynicism and an earlier death.
 
Still, the new study does not prove that having a bad attitude causes bad health outcomes. To prove a causal relationship, a study would need randomized controlled trials to
show that a reduction in cynical attitudes through treatment actually lowered the risk of bad health outcomes.
 
More research is necessary to replicate the conclusions. But the results complement a wide body of research showing how "over time, people with highly cynical hostility do
worse health wise," said Dr. Hilary Tindle, assistant professor of medicine at the University of Pittsburgh.
 
Why cynicism may be bad for you
 
What might explain an association between cynicism and poor health?
 
This is a complex issue that needs to be studied more, Tindle said. The relationships between psychological attitudes and health outcomes are very complex.
 
"I can tell you from my clinical perspective from treating patients, I am absolutely certain that psychological attitudes can lead people down a road to poor health, because
I see it every day when I talk to patients," said Tindle, who wrote the book "Up: How Positive Outlook Can Transform Our Health and Aging."
 
Tindle was the lead author on a study that examined the health outcomes of over 97,000 women and found that cynical women had a higher hazard of cancer-related mortality.
"The bottom line is that a high degree of anger/hostility/cynicism is not good for health," she wrote.
 
Research shows cynical people also tend to smoke more, exercise less and weigh more. They also have a harder time following even the best medical advice, because their
 cynical natures won't let them believe what people tell them, Tindle said.
 
Cat defrauded out of big inheritance when owner suffers dementia
 
Past studies have also found that people who are cynical have a higher rate of coronary heart disease, cardiovascular problems and cancer-related deaths. Cardiovascular disease
can contribute to dementia because it essentially damages small blood vessels everywhere in your body, including in your brain.
 
Cynical people also tend to have greater stress responses, which means they typically have a higher heart rate, a higher blood pressure peak, and a tendency to have greater
inflammation of their immune systems. Chronic inflammation is now known to be harmful to one's overall health and it is linked to everything from Crohn's disease to high
cholesterol to even Alzheimer's.
 
Do what makes you happy
 
Can you come out of cynicism? 
 
The good news is, being highly cynical is not a permanent state of mind.
 
"I am also certain that people can learn to change -- they change every day in that they quit smoking, they lose weight, they cut ties in unhealthy friendships," Tindle said.
"The ultimate message is people are not 'doomed' if they have cynical tendencies."
 
So if your assumptions about people are making you angry and irritable, try having a little more trust.
 
"All of us are capable of adopting healthier attitudes," Tindle said. "As a physician, I see people of all ages making positive change every day."

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Offline Farmhand

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2014, 07:28:43 PM »
Yes living with the fairies in blissful ignorance of real problems and just accepting everything anyone tells us may reduce stress and lead to better health. Or it could lead to us being fleeced of our hard earned wealth in one foul swoop and cause long lived depression and poverty.

Maybe you are confusing cynics with skeptics.

Sounds like there is some truth that too much stress is bad for us, but are cynical people more stressed or are stressed people more cynical.

As people age and learn more truths they see how much BS they have been led to believe and become cynical, probably wishing they had been more skeptical. Are young children cynical ? Are young children skeptical ?  I know kids that have learned to be skeptical because they have been lied to so much. Cause and effect, not effect and cause.

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Offline MarkE

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 08:10:19 PM »
The OP seems to confuse cynicism with skepticism. 

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 08:10:19 PM »
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Offline CuriousChris

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 01:52:58 AM »
I have been called a troll by steeltpu. That is so sad.

Here I am APPLYING THE PRINCIPLES OF OU in a solid and undeniably correct fashion to show that a single mouse can power the entire world (albeit for only a short period of time, they keep dying. I still haven't found the right cheese yet)

There is NOTHING in my claim that breaks the principle of OU.

So why are people like steeltpu being so mean? They don't understand what this breakthrough means to the world. This is serious stuff. I am not a troll I am trying to solve the worlds energy crisis.

SteelTPU I declare it is you who are employed by the big oil companies to stop people when a true breakthrough is made. It is you who selectively chooses who to attack. Which technologies to try and cover up.

You are looking to destroy the reputation of those people who have the true ability to make changes to the world and foster those who clearly don't.

And you hide behind the mask of a true believer.

Offline CuriousChris

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 01:56:26 AM »
I researched the dementia study and found the flaw in their argument.

They didn't take into account believers don't use their brain at all and so you cannot tell whether they have dementia or not.

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 01:56:26 AM »
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Offline ACG

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2014, 04:47:03 AM »
Its funny that in place of actually producing over unity in its place stands talk of the skeptics!

What comes next, blaming a high rise building for the cause of suicides?

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2014, 01:32:33 PM »


Its funny that in place of actually producing over unity in its place stands talk of the skeptics!



Ummm....what?

Bill

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2014, 01:32:33 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2014, 03:40:52 PM »
Ummm....what?

Bill

Perhaps the poster is trying to express the ironic fact that most of what is _actually known_ and verifiable around here, meaning all the various projects, systems, claims and proposals.... most of the real knowledge seems to have come from those very "skeptics" themselves. By analyzing claims and systems, doing their own work, learning how to use their equipment and software properly, and communicating effectively, the "skeptics" have added much to knowledge and have cleared up many misconceptions and exposed many false claims.


On the other hand maybe the poster is trying to repeat that old canard that the skeptics somehow are preventing the True Believers from being able to reach their goals. (How this magical and powerful influence happens, exactly, is never explained.)

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2014, 06:45:11 PM »
Well, I believe that I will live longer knowing what is real, and what is a scam.  At the very least, I will be able to keep what little money I now have.

If someone did a real, actual study on this, I believe that the life of those who scam are much shorter.  They probably die from the stress of worrying about being found out, or by meeting someone whom they scammed who demands a reckoning.

Bill

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2014, 06:45:11 PM »
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Offline SeaMonkey

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2014, 01:22:05 AM »
If someone did a real, actual study on this, I believe that the life of those who scam are much shorter.  They probably die from the stress of worrying about being found out, or by meeting someone whom they scammed who demands a reckoning.

If a "scammer" possessed what is considered to be
a normal conscience or the ability to feel remorse
that may be the case.

True Scammers seem to be somehow "protected"
so as not to suffer those consequences.  Particularly
those who have risen to the top of the Scammer
Pyramid at the level of the All Seeing Eye.

Nearly 100% of the "politicians" in America, Canada,
Mexico and the European Union fit into that category.

Offline steeltpu

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2014, 01:42:02 AM »
The OP seems to confuse cynicism with skepticism.

while slightly different it's a fine line between the two

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2014, 01:42:02 AM »
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Offline steeltpu

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2014, 01:44:41 AM »
I have been called a troll by steeltpu. That is so sad.

Here I am APPLYING THE PRINCIPLES OF OU in a solid and undeniably correct fashion to show that a single mouse can power the entire world (albeit for only a short period of time, they keep dying. I still haven't found the right cheese yet)

There is NOTHING in my claim that breaks the principle of OU.

So why are people like steeltpu being so mean? They don't understand what this breakthrough means to the world. This is serious stuff. I am not a troll I am trying to solve the worlds energy crisis.

SteelTPU I declare it is you who are employed by the big oil companies to stop people when a true breakthrough is made. It is you who selectively chooses who to attack. Which technologies to try and cover up.

You are looking to destroy the reputation of those people who have the true ability to make changes to the world and foster those who clearly don't.

And you hide behind the mask of a true believer.

no not going to play.   unilke tinsel and milehigh who while overly skepticall actually contribute around here you are nothing more than a loud bad fart in a small room.   people laugh at first but then they are disgusted.

Offline CuriousChris

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2014, 02:23:53 AM »
That's only because you can't play this game.

You know that your logic is deficient. You know that any attempt to support overunity results in ridiculous outcomes that are clearly impossible. but rather than give up on your silly beliefs you choose to ignore them. Instead to denigrate those who would point out the lack of reasoning in your thoughts.

Rather than put together a cogent line of reasoning in support of the possibility of OU. You instead go on the attack.

Why don't you stand up for what you believe in, instead of sticking your head in the sand?

As for tinsel I don't know what floats his boat, Very intelligent but he is involved in a multiyear argument with an insane rosemary perhaps he doesn't want the trip to end, personally I don't have that sort of spare time. I can't speak of milehigh.

The challenge stands.

If you believe in OU explain why MEP is not possible and at the same time OU is. Remove the mouse and replace it with ANY source of energy you want if that makes you feel better. a battery perhaps, A small generator, whatever you need. If the math worries you replace 200% with whatever you feel is realistic. 120% 1200% whatever swings your bat it doesn't matter.

Oh and I guess I should speak of my reasoning for being here and taking this rubbish on. diseases need to be attacked. take a look at homeopathy. its a cancer that does no good and is known to do harm. the anti vaccination morons. These are people who with no knowledge and only misinformation, while living with a bubble mentality* put the world at great risk. They don't understand the evil of what they are doing. and overunity frauds they take people away from looking for real and possible solutions and instead feed them false arguments about how evil governments are hiding the truth from them. I am here to protect my children from people like you.

You should be ashamed of being part of that disease.

But you will continue to deny the truth and you will continue to believe in falsehoods. Why? because like the scorpion that's what you are.



*bubble mentality: groups of people who feed information to each other in a closed environment, refusing to look out side the bubble to other explanations and failing to research what they choose to believe. In the bubble, lies quickly become accepted as fact.

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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2014, 02:51:02 AM »
@Chris: You are way behind the times, dude. Ainslie has collapsed in a puddle of her own mendacity and lies, and her silly delusions aren't worth discussing any more. Since she is unable to produce any valid data, and since her previously produced data has been shown to be an assortment of lies, fabrications and incompetent errors, she isn't worthy of any attention at all. I'm ready to refute her if she comes up with anything new, but there isn't any point in sorting her garbage: it will still be garbage even after it's sorted.

The QEG people have raised my ire, now that Wayne Travis has also faded back into the dusty red lowlands of southern Oklahoma.

Meanwhile I'm still working on my own interests: For example I have a reedswitched pulse motor on my bench right now that "works" at under 0.1 volt input, wayy less than one milliWatt, and it's not a tiny leeeetle water-generator thingy either. And when it's fed with an entire full One Volt, it makes enough spike voltage to flash a NE-2 neon.





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Re: Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2014, 06:32:15 AM »
A quote from wiki. I wonder if the analyst is real or made up, and if real is it just his opinion..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

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A document released by the NGIC shows there is ongoing worldwide research into zero-point energy, particular in China, Germany, Russia and Brazil. An analyst of the Defense Intelligence Agency has indicated that research into successfully harnessing zero-point energy for energy generation purposes is a serious concern inside the intelligence community

NGIC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ground_Intelligence_Center

Really hilarious. The energy generation part makes me giggle.

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