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Author Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )  (Read 460854 times)

Offline lumen

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #195 on: November 24, 2014, 01:17:02 AM »
This design appears to be somewhere between the Ecklin and Gary designs.
 
It's a flux switcher like Gary design but also shields in a balanced way like the Ecklin design.
 
 

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #196 on: November 24, 2014, 03:11:30 AM »
Guys,

Been lurking in the forum the past few days and felt inspired to post an idea. Syair's generator appears to show stationary coils and stationary magnets with moving soft iron between the two, presumably to 'disrupt' the stationary magnetic flux in order that the stationary coils 'see' a moving flux. From the coils relative perspective, it cannot differentiate between a moving magnet and a disrupted field of a stationary magnet - it will develop an output voltage proportional to the rate of flux change and the number of turns.

It ought to be a simple matter to verify such a scheme by constructing something along the following lines - has this (or similar) been done previously?

H.

Yes it was done in the past

They call it a Low Lenz or Lenzless generator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWMFDDL1AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--SpdiJEmeo

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #197 on: November 24, 2014, 05:24:39 AM »
Dear All.

Gary effect in action !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACykTfXspfM

Anyone got any ideas how to go auto ??    :)

Cheers Grum.
Sure. You will never get it to self-loop using a mechanical linkage though, but it would be relatively trivial to set up a drive coil system to replace "Mister Hand" and trigger the coil off of a sensor looking at the see-saw part. It won't take much power either, maybe even something as wimpy as my PerPenduPetulum driver would be enough to tip the balance as you are doing.
You can't feel the force you are putting in with your finger because it's so small, but it's there all right. Try simulating a load, like a generator coil would produce, say by attaching a couple of rubber bands to the rightmost ends of the teeter totter so that the updown motion stretches the bands a little, and you will probably be able to feel the increased drive force necessary to move the shunt plate with your finger.

ETA: I see that people are referring to the part you are moving by hand as a "shield". It's a funny kind of shield though, being a high-permeability piece of transformer iron, that actually works by "sucking in" the field from the magnets. It is actually a magnetic shunt, that channels the field into itself, and makes less of the overall field available to affect the moving see-saw parts when it is in the middle position of its travel. In my way of using language, a "shield" would have zero permeability and would truly keep flux _out_ rather than sucking it in.

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #197 on: November 24, 2014, 05:24:39 AM »
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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #198 on: November 24, 2014, 10:44:02 AM »
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Yes it was done in the past

They call it a Low Lenz or Lenzless generator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWMFDDL1AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--SpdiJEmeo

Thanks Albator10, for the interesting links; just proves the old saying 'there is nothing new under the sun'!

Cheers,

H.

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #199 on: November 24, 2014, 01:40:20 PM »
For a balanced generator there's good example in Muller dynamo in RomeoUK implementation so the wheel was spinning free even there was neodymium magnets involved. Just in this case the moving parts are iron bars which cover both magnetic poles and coil core before reaching opposite magnetic polarity and one of stator disks have magnets instead of coils. It should be not too complicated to build test unit like that for seeing W. Gary magnetic effect in action...

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #199 on: November 24, 2014, 01:40:20 PM »
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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #200 on: November 24, 2014, 03:02:39 PM »
Hi Grumage,

Nice test build.

Attached is an idea for a linear version.

The iron plate would have to be placed a little over the neutral line to create a opposite polarity.

Initially the drive magnet will pull upwards attracted to the fixed magnet. As the iron plate comes down it reverses polarity
making the drive magnet drop back down hitting the lever repeating the cycle (if it doesn't stick somewhere) :) .

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #201 on: November 24, 2014, 05:03:27 PM »
T-1000 stop flooding on this thread,

This is Syairchairun's theme about his OU generator -  not topic about magnetic levers and tricks with B-field. !!

His OU generator is in fact S-machine (Scalar generator) using Dr.Nikolaev and Dr.Marinov formulation.

As i have found your parallel posts on 3 independent forums.  This is not normal reaction for human but quite @normal@ for governement trolls.

Your trolling is very skilful and you are many years in this @governement issue@.
You are continuously running water on your watermill - from topic to topic.

That's all people.

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #201 on: November 24, 2014, 05:03:27 PM »
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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #202 on: November 24, 2014, 05:37:58 PM »

Hi Enjoykin, Do you have any more info about that? What you think he mean? special structure of the material? premagnetized? ??

http://www.pennstatehershey.org/c/document_library/get_file?folderId=1176176&name=DLFE-15206.pdf

Hello l0stf0x  :D

No - I have not. I am waiting Syairchairun to come again here and present Magnetic Poles configuration. So i know he is using some magnetic configuration inside soft iron rotor. All other is trivial. Magnetic configuration in his setup is KEY for OVERUNITY in S-MACHINE. And am sure 99% that he is using one of SIBERIAN COLIA CONFIGURATION.

I was reading spanish patent of Hogan-Jakovlevic from 1950 and found exactly configuration like in Dr.Marinov S-machine. Only one stuff here is ENIGMA. Some kind of plate (grid) between TWO SIBERIAN COLIA MAGNETS IN ANTIPHASE. If you put simple copper silever or gold plate (grid) between you will get nothing - already was tested on our Russian forum. I am searching for similar Tesla setup to associate with SECRET GRID FORM. For now only Tesla Basket Coil (Bifilar type) come to my mind. What about if the whole trick is in "bread and butter bifilar sandwich" ?. I know Ismael Aviso using Tesla Pancake Bifilar sandwich of many coils as RADIANT COLLECTOR in his OU generator.

Now i show you how Scalar Magnetic Field exactly look in visible spectrum. Picture below is early borned young star in Perun constellation -  (known as Eagle constalation 1 of 16 constalations visible from our planet.) You can see Star Toroid which is perfect source of Scalar Magnetic Filed. Maximum of Scalar field is at center and going on two opposite sides of toroid. Vector magnetic field B was trapped inside toroid and can't escape nowhere. This is the case with any perfect toroid. Look on the colour fountains at both sides of toroid. They track configuration of Star Scalar Magnnetic field. But real configuartion is very complex because we need to see complete spectra from 0Hz to 1034Hz for real configuration and dynamics of Star Scalar Field. Picture is from Japanese telescope month ago.

Here on our site http://www.tesladevice.ru/forum you will find many interesting videos and experiments about Scalar Magnetic Field of Dr. Genady V.Nikolaev

https://clck.ru/9NAez

Two non valid experiments - Spanish patent from 1950 225315
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WmS1I7b6ws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mANxFntqCA

In my oppinion succession of experiments here need to be done from simple to complex configurations.

For starting experiments should be used single bare wire conneced with both ends to oscilloscope. There should be used diferentials probes. Than experiments with two wires with two differential probes. All configuration angles shoudl be tested and interesting envelopes recorded for analyse. Than experiment with 3 bare wires and 3 differential probes. After all of this shoud be tested some of  braiding grid configuration. For example zigzag configuration of two isolated conductors with appropriate ange. Example Handershot Basket weave coils, Tesla bifilar pancake coils, Hooper pancake coils. If there is positive result than shoud be tested some of basic Platon Solids geometric bodies and shapes. One of variant can be rotating grid made from copper, soft iron or maybe gold - like in Syairchairun setup.

One thing i know - IT MUST BE PERFECTLY SIMPLE - because Mother nature never had made complex stuffs or in my free interpretation looking from her point of view -  Human entities are also SIMPLE STUFFS (configurations)  same like MOTHER UNIVERSE !!  :D

Reg,
enjoykin

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #203 on: November 24, 2014, 08:22:04 PM »
Thank you very much Enjoykin, your explanation is more than perfect..!! Just great info for learn think and practice .. !!  :D


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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #203 on: November 24, 2014, 08:22:04 PM »
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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #204 on: November 24, 2014, 09:15:23 PM »
T-1000 stop flooding on this thread,

This is Syairchairun's theme about his OU generator -  not topic about magnetic levers and tricks with B-field. !!

His OU generator is in fact S-machine (Scalar generator) using Dr.Nikolaev and Dr.Marinov formulation.

As i have found your parallel posts on 3 independent forums.  This is not normal reaction for human but quite @normal@ for governement trolls.

Your trolling is very skilful and you are many years in this @governement issue@.
You are continuously running water on your watermill - from topic to topic.

That's all people.

From now I will be ignoring your posts. Getting called as troll second time is not fun anymore and the Marinov setup has nothing related to Syairchairun's setup. If you are blind not seeing that in http://www.overunity.com/15088/new-generator-no-effect-lenzlaw-give-more-detail-in-pcture/dlattach/attach/144160/image// (posted by syairchairun in http://www.overunity.com/15088/new-generator-no-effect-lenzlaw-give-more-detail-in-pcture/msg423162/#msg423162 ) that is your personal problem...

P.S> When something really working appear in forums then always there will be people to derail original information to something else so no one can repeat original setup.. Think twice before doing that.
Also Grum did prove point what is happening when there is moving iron bar between two magnets (the coil is alternating magnet) in his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACykTfXspfM so now back to original syairchairun build and making replication... My posts was even one step further for making it magnetically balanced but it might be too early in time at this point. Will see in few months.

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #205 on: November 25, 2014, 04:55:07 PM »
T-1000,

I haven't spent much time trying to magnetically balance this since Syair reported only 750 watts were needed to rotate his 10KW build. I wonder just how much time should be spent on it. He used the stock stator and exciter poles and coils after all.

How many have considered the stator coils and the span they cover in the winding on the stator?  Those coils are electromagnets and produce their own magnetic field and their own N & S poles pointing at the center of the generator. They are temporary and vary in intensity according to the current draw of the output. Maybe these are what provide the variable impetus that keeps the rotor going.

I mean, if this really has to be magnetically balanced then there is more to it than the exciters and iron rotors.

Maybe the inertia of several pounds of iron rotors spinning at 1500 RPM coupled with the fields from the poles and the stator already does the job.



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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #205 on: November 25, 2014, 04:55:07 PM »
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Offline albator10

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #206 on: November 25, 2014, 07:40:26 PM »
Who know the exact model and power of the generator that syairchairun is using ?


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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #207 on: November 26, 2014, 11:56:01 PM »
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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #208 on: November 27, 2014, 11:38:41 AM »
Now getting 140v and using a MOT coil can dimly light an incandescent - no real measurements yet just a demo of how I have achieved the extra volts.. oh yeah and everything falls apart at the end ... literally (for the Americans that means it actually does fall apart)  - uploading video now.

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #209 on: November 27, 2014, 06:35:26 PM »
Who know the exact model and power of the generator that syairchairun is using ?

It is a generic 4 pole generator 220 volts 1600 rpm there are dozens of them on alibaba they are all the same and very affordable.

 

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