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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 3163606 times)

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6075 on: June 01, 2013, 07:54:18 PM »
You beat me to it.
I just watched the video.
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu4pzvkSkzo

I am encouraged to see another configuration besides sine wave peak alternator.
In this new configuration he is no longer using a sine wave peak commutator and relays.
I would like to learn more about the differences, the pros & cons, of sine wave peak versus toroid generator.

I do intend to get more assembly work done soon.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6075 on: June 01, 2013, 07:54:18 PM »

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6076 on: June 04, 2013, 02:04:39 AM »
Just a quick follow-up.
I was not able to get the work done, this weekend, as I had intended.

But I have heard back from the manufacturer so no worries there.
They are simply doing their own thing and they are still in touch and offering to fix problems.
And, to me, this is really what counts. Just being able to communicate.
So I see no problems there. Just a few delays for various reasons.

SO all is good at this point and I still have a deep appreciation for what I have and what we are all trying to accomplish.

Just need to get off my lazy tail, worry less, and build more.  :)

That is all for now.

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PS:
There is, apparently, a very fine line between constructive criticism and complaining. . .





.....  So, for the remainder of this holiday weekend, I give them the benefit of the doubt.
But, if it starts to become clear this company is NOT communicating, backing up their products, or correcting errors then, yes, I will take the position this is the case. . . .

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6077 on: June 04, 2013, 06:55:00 AM »
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu4pzvkSkzo


12:10 there is the bingo moment. Shorting of toroidal generator did not afected much pulse motor but when vacuum pump was attached its motor was running. The toroidal generator smells on what N. Tesla was doing... :) Someone need to pick this up and see if more energy can be generated than energy was needed to rotate magnet inside of ring. The most important bit there are coils arrangement to 90 degrees than you expect on conventional generator and plenty of iron to weaken Lenz force.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6077 on: June 04, 2013, 06:55:00 AM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6078 on: June 07, 2013, 12:38:15 AM »
Just a minor progress report of minor progress.

I managed to spend an hour wiring the alternator stators, and cutting threads, so these parts are all ready.

The company is still in communications and has promised to send more adjustment nuts, as well as additional magnet retainer shims, but I went ahead and finished cutting the nuts I have on hand.
It does appear that 3/4"-20 was the correct tap so that worked well and I was able to mount the alternator section for an initial mock-up.

But I can now see my rubber band solution (to replace missing shims) just isn't working as well as I had thought because I couldn't find rubber bands that are thin enough.
Now that the rotors have been assembled, for awhile, not only am I seeing a 'bulge' in some of the magnet cups; I am now seeing a slight gap, between the rotor halves, in some areas near the magnet cups.  So; I would really like for those replacement shims to arrive soon. . .

Another thing, I noticed, is that the plastic coil bolts are really close in the middle.
Wouldn't hurt for the manufacturer to go the next size, shorter, bolts.

That is all for now.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6079 on: June 08, 2013, 12:47:28 AM »
Just a side note-

Quanta Magnetics did send replacements for the missing shims, and adjustment nuts that weren't threaded all the way through, which have arrived today.
So all is good.  :)

And there is a new video that shows a very interesting effect.
Depending on where he moves the 'timing' of his switch, there appears to be a significant increase, or "Toroidal Power Amplification", in power output from the toroidal generator.
See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3b3h2cEbHw

I sure would like to learn more about toroidal generators and these switching effects.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6080 on: June 08, 2013, 07:34:50 AM »
Hi Scorch.
In the video of QM with a toroid generator, coil unshorting takes place.
While two wires are in contact with the conducting surface of the bushing the coils are dead shorted.When the wire tips encounter a hole in the bushing they loose the contact and the circuit is opened.
The strongest sparks are when the induced current is at max and the coils are being unshorted.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6081 on: June 08, 2013, 04:15:40 PM »
And there is a new video that shows a very interesting effect.
Depending on where he moves the 'timing' of his switch, there appears to be a significant increase, or "Toroidal Power Amplification", in power output from the toroidal generator.
See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3b3h2cEbHw
Coil shorting was explained by Ismael Aviso very well - http://youtu.be/rv7C7YOetDY?t=29m26s
Also in regards to toroidal generator seems nobody pay attention to what it does when generator coils are shorted for longer time... The conventional generator would be dead stopped already while toroidal generator gets only small fraction of Lenz force back to magnet there - http://youtu.be/Zu4pzvkSkzo?t=12m10s

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6082 on: June 08, 2013, 04:59:17 PM »
Yes. It appears the strongest sparks are actually at certain points in time with the rotor.
Presumably at the peak of the sine or maximum, induced, current.

And there is a claim of 'power amplification' by providing the switching at the right time during this peak.
The system is running at only 360 ma. which, in itself, is pretty impressive to me considering the mass of copper coils, spinning rotors, air resistance and large, grease packed, bearings, but it appears these sparks may be significantly more power than a few hundred milliamps.  But, then, I can't tell just by looking at sparks on a video and have no idea what the duty cycle is or how this might work with a good capacitor bank.

Would love to see a better switch installed and some power output measurements.
But also know there is a history of the corporation removing, or banning, videos that reveal anything too 'controversial'. . .
So there is this 'self induced suppression' because we know these things therefore desire to NOT reveal to much at one time.
If there is a video clearly revealing more power out, than in, how long would it stay and would the user account remain?

I don't know if you have noticed, in these video demonstrations, he is not actually using the BEMF output from the motor section. . . .
Is it possible the BEMF output is already near, or greater than, 360 milliamp?

Maybe I should build one of these things and find out. . . .

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Hi Scorch.
In the video of QM with a toroid generator, coil unshorting takes place.
While two wires are in contact with the conducting surface of the bushing the coils are dead shorted.When the wire tips encounter a hole in the bushing they loose the contact and the circuit is opened.
The strongest sparks are when the induced current is at max and the coils are being unshorted.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6083 on: June 14, 2013, 02:34:07 AM »
I replaced the black, ferrous, cap screws, in favor of stainless steel studs and nuts, so both ends of the assembly now look uniform.
Also completed a major portion of the wiring.

I decided to solder all connectors because, sometimes, crimp-on connectors do not, always, work well on solid wire when using a typical hand crimp tool.
Even my compound crimp tool tends to leave them a little loose sometimes.
Solid wire just doesn't like to be crimped. Too tight may cut into the wire; not tight enough and the wire may become loose resulting in intermittent connections.

Also drilled, and tapped, a couple new holes in the bracket and installed a terminal strip.

That is all for now.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6083 on: June 14, 2013, 02:34:07 AM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6084 on: June 16, 2013, 09:09:11 PM »
Looky what I bought!

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6085 on: June 17, 2013, 02:04:14 AM »
Completed the timing disk and reed switch.
Some of the cap screws, which are supposed to be stainless steel, turned out to be regular steel.
Suspect they got mixed up in the bin, or box, before parts kit was assembled at the manufacturer.

Fabricated a mount for an ammeter.
First test of pulse motor section - Running at around 400 RPM at 300 ma. and 24.9 vdc.

Still need to build other stuff but first test run looking really good and seeing around 27.5 vdc at the BEMF output with no load and meter measurement only.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6086 on: June 17, 2013, 03:08:48 AM »
Hi Scorth,
Do you can say where you find thr toroid core, please.
I think finish the mecanical support for my replication of the Q serie the next week, like you can see on the pictures I have somme work before the first test.
Thank again to share and put somme life in this topic, Marc

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6087 on: June 17, 2013, 03:30:38 AM »
http://www.micrometals.com/pcparts/torcore7.html
See part number: T650-52

They make larger cores but they do get pretty expensive.

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Hi Scorth,
Do you can say where you find thr toroid core, please.
I think finish the mecanical support for my replication of the Q serie the next week, like you can see on the pictures I have somme work before the first test.
Thank again to share and put somme life in this topic, Marc

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6088 on: June 17, 2013, 03:49:30 AM »
thank you for your quick answer

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6089 on: June 25, 2013, 01:07:06 AM »
Ran into another fit issue today which has brought assembly progress to halt.

The kit did not include a critical part needed for sine wave peak switching.
The commutator required to accomplish this is to be fabricated, from local materials, including the insulator and copper contacts.
This part is based on an aluminum hub (included) to be used as the base, and mount, for a commutator which is supposed to be built from a spray can lid and copper strip contacts.
I did order some copper tape from amazon.com and, hopefully, that will work ok.

But what has become a big fit issue is the insulator which should have a smooth surface, fit the hub tightly and evenly, and be able to fasten the copper contacts to it.
The instructions read: "A common spray paint cap (smooth) works well as an insulator for the 2.48" diameter hub. . ."
But this is where the problem is. I have LOTS of cans but none of the caps actually fit including paint caps.
Most are too small; others are to big and none 'work well' . . .

Have already destroyed several caps tying to make them fit.
Have tried heating them so they might stretch a little but this merely caused deformations instead of a uniform 'stretch'.

At this point I am stuck until I can find something that actually fits and, hopefully, has a half way decent, smooth, surface for the copper tape and brushes.
I will go ahead and send a request, to quanta magnetics, for a solution and, hopefully, they will have some suggestions, or materials, I can use to move forward.

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