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Offline neogen

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5730 on: April 23, 2012, 01:04:19 PM »
RomeoUK: I salute you and I am replicating too... I wish to bring this knowledge to our children and next generation. This is how we let our next generation better....

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5731 on: April 24, 2012, 12:18:01 AM »
4/23/12

Finally got around to completing some more work on my build.

This is an upgrade from what had originally started.

Upgraded-
-Stator plates from 1/4" acrylic to 1/2" acrylic.
-Rotor from 7" diameter, 1/2" acrylic to 8" diameter, 1/2" Lexan.
-Cheap ball bearings to precision, bronze, motor bearings.
-Shaft from 1/4" all thread to 3/8" stainless axle shaft.
-Coils now firmly attached with acrylic weld instead of mounting tape.

My current goal is to use a separate, super efficient, 'stargate' style motor as the primary mover.
See: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xv-req4U8U

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5732 on: April 28, 2012, 07:00:35 PM »
Just another progress photo.

Going to try the direct drive approach first, with a motor, in order to get some idea of performance before even attempting to use alternator coils as motor coils.
And, of course, this motor can be modified to substantially increase its own efficiency. (see previous video link)

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5732 on: April 28, 2012, 07:00:35 PM »
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5733 on: April 28, 2012, 08:56:58 PM »
4/23/12

Finally got around to completing some more work on my build.

This is an upgrade from what had originally started.

Upgraded-
-Stator plates from 1/4" acrylic to 1/2" acrylic.
-Rotor from 7" diameter, 1/2" acrylic to 8" diameter, 1/2" Lexan.
-Cheap ball bearings to precision, bronze, motor bearings.
-Shaft from 1/4" all thread to 3/8" stainless axle shaft.
-Coils now firmly attached with acrylic weld instead of mounting tape.

My current goal is to use a separate, super efficient, 'stargate' style motor as the primary mover.
See: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xv-req4U8U

}:>

Stargate. hmm.  I did this back a couple years ago. I had a small toy motor and when you add 2 small neos to each side ( in the right position) it was faster and more current needed.
I was thinking, well, it is just more power out and more power in. But, there is more to it . I didnt realize that I could reduce my input to get back to the normal operating rpm, thus using less input to get the normal output.

Thanks for showing that. ;] I believe  it 100%.

Mags

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5734 on: May 14, 2012, 10:57:56 PM »
Stargate. hmm.  I did this back a couple years ago. I had a small toy motor and when you add 2 small neos to each side ( in the right position) it was faster and more current needed.
I was thinking, well, it is just more power out and more power in. But, there is more to it . I didnt realize that I could reduce my input to get back to the normal operating rpm, thus using less input to get the normal output.

Thanks for showing that. ;] I believe  it 100%.

Mags
I Magluvin!

You've very get the point!  :D :bd

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5734 on: May 14, 2012, 10:57:56 PM »
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Offline jiga

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5735 on: May 16, 2012, 03:38:19 PM »
Hi Guys!

Im new in this forum. First of all sorry for moving your focus away from your very interesting works.  And also sorry for my bad english.

Does anybody made a replication of RomeroUK's engine? I've read a lot of posts for the TT Pyramid and spent hours there, and in last pages of the topic I discovered very disappointed that it was a fraud, as no one could replicate it working and Trawoger disappeared.

So I'm a bit more skeptic now! (Skeptic in the good sense, I'm still open minded, but I have to prove it because there are lots of disinformers) I read first pages of this topic, and it looks very interesting, but I really have no time for reading all 300+ pages. So this started 01/01/2008, after 4 years did anybody could replicate it?

Thanks a lot!!!

Greetings!
Juan from Argentina.

Offline crazycut06

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5736 on: May 17, 2012, 01:31:19 AM »
Hi Juan,
    There are many replicators that tried, but i'm sorry to disappoint you again, that no one has finished replicating, but some are still trying, who knows that someday someone will show a working device,
    let's not loose hope, anyways building and replicating devices is fun together with the frustrations  ;D , but we will learn something from it...
Regards Cc

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« Reply #5736 on: May 17, 2012, 01:31:19 AM »
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Offline jiga

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5737 on: May 21, 2012, 04:27:36 PM »
Hi Juan,
    There are many replicators that tried, but i'm sorry to disappoint you again, that no one has finished replicating, but some are still trying, who knows that someday someone will show a working device,
    let's not loose hope, anyways building and replicating devices is fun together with the frustrations  ;D , but we will learn something from it...
Regards Cc
Its not about hope, at least for me. I have a friend (who is not interested in OU, and also has no beliefs in anything special, he is a photographer and a traveller) that charged his cellphone from a pyramid a few months ago, in a self-sustaining  community of people living near a mountain. Because he is not interested, he didn't asked how to build one, and nothing. He told me and that bring me to this place. I understand that i have no proofs, so you don't have to believe me. I will try to find how to build it, next time I travel to the place where it is.

I think the following: Imagine you are someone powerful, and there are rumors of something that is not convenient for you. In a place like internet, that is still free and anybody can post something. The most effective way to kill that rumor is filling the space with tons of false information who disappoint everyone. This is not something minor, this technology is not simply something for disconnecting from grid or stop paying for electricity! (thats a very selfish way of seeing this). If something like this would be known worldwide, and I'm sure it will happen if it gets really replicated, science would have to give answers, and "they" don't want to. The place where science meets religion is very inconvenient for the status quo, I think. One century ago, the entire physics fell because ONE SINGLE EXPERIMENT. A Single experiment is the way science goes forward.

I'm suspecting this forum is not a secure place. Maybe I'm wrong, and in that case I apologize the owner, its my opinion. But there are lot of people claiming about deleted messages... I'm a software developer, I know what is possible and what not, and there can be failed connections to database (not so many!), but deleted messages?? That is made manually.
And also the Reward of EUR 15000 for someone who makes a OU machine... Thats not right in my opinion! because the effect of that politic is that if someone finds a machine, he will not share it, instead he will keep it and send it only to the forum owner (in order to win himself the prize), and even will not discuss details openly. The forum owner will then decide himself (with other two persons HE decided) if its OU or not. The prize also converts this forum into a competition! And this technology will be found in a collaborative way, not competitive. I really think its possible to find a new technology. Who cares about 15000 euros or 1 million?? That prize is trying to monetize something that should not be monetized, what moves me (and I think many) cannot be bought, its about knowing the Truth and helping peoples life in a disinterested way. So, what Is that prize about? I don't need it, I will share results publicly anyway. I'm a bit confused, am I too idealist? I don't know people in this forum, am I wrong? You really will do more efforts if there is money there? Where would we be now If Tesla or any other grand scientific would move just for money?
That's my thoughts, sorry If I'm wrong, I don't want to despite anyone.

Sorry for OT and bad english :(
Greetings!!
Juan

Offline truesearch

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5738 on: May 21, 2012, 05:20:29 PM »
@juan:

I respect your approach and logic! If you move forward in discovery of the "pyramid-power" that your friend encountered please share the information with us.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5738 on: May 21, 2012, 05:20:29 PM »
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Offline lhakvoort

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5739 on: May 22, 2012, 11:28:08 PM »
i search all the internet for a good muller design and i can not find a single one :(
the only thing i read is that no one uses magnets as coil cores and in the papers a found on the internet i read about alnoco magnets wich bill muller used as coil cores for the stator and neodynium magnets for the rotor so my question is why did no one tried this ?


Offline resonanceman

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5740 on: May 23, 2012, 03:25:21 AM »
Its not about hope, at least for me. I have a friend (who is not interested in OU, and also has no beliefs in anything special, he is a photographer and a traveller) that charged his cellphone from a pyramid a few months ago, in a self-sustaining  community of people living near a mountain. Because he is not interested, he didn't asked how to build one, and nothing. He told me and that bring me to this place. I understand that i have no proofs, so you don't have to believe me. I will try to find how to build it, next time I travel to the place where it is.

I think the following: Imagine you are someone powerful, and there are rumors of something that is not convenient for you. In a place like internet, that is still free and anybody can post something. The most effective way to kill that rumor is filling the space with tons of false information who disappoint everyone. This is not something minor, this technology is not simply something for disconnecting from grid or stop paying for electricity! (thats a very selfish way of seeing this). If something like this would be known worldwide, and I'm sure it will happen if it gets really replicated, science would have to give answers, and "they" don't want to. The place where science meets religion is very inconvenient for the status quo, I think. One century ago, the entire physics fell because ONE SINGLE EXPERIMENT. A Single experiment is the way science goes forward.

I'm suspecting this forum is not a secure place. Maybe I'm wrong, and in that case I apologize the owner, its my opinion. But there are lot of people claiming about deleted messages... I'm a software developer, I know what is possible and what not, and there can be failed connections to database (not so many!), but deleted messages?? That is made manually.
And also the Reward of EUR 15000 for someone who makes a OU machine... Thats not right in my opinion! because the effect of that politic is that if someone finds a machine, he will not share it, instead he will keep it and send it only to the forum owner (in order to win himself the prize), and even will not discuss details openly. The forum owner will then decide himself (with other two persons HE decided) if its OU or not. The prize also converts this forum into a competition! And this technology will be found in a collaborative way, not competitive. I really think its possible to find a new technology. Who cares about 15000 euros or 1 million?? That prize is trying to monetize something that should not be monetized, what moves me (and I think many) cannot be bought, its about knowing the Truth and helping peoples life in a disinterested way. So, what Is that prize about? I don't need it, I will share results publicly anyway. I'm a bit confused, am I too idealist? I don't know people in this forum, am I wrong? You really will do more efforts if there is money there? Where would we be now If Tesla or any other grand scientific would move just for money?
That's my thoughts, sorry If I'm wrong, I don't want to despite anyone.

Sorry for OT and bad english :(
Greetings!!
Juan

Juan

I see you are new here.

You might want to read a little bit more before you pass judgement on this site.

As far as the prize ...... it has been years sense I read the requirements ......but I am pretty sure that one of the requirements of winning the prize is full disclosure
ANother requirement is it has to be replicated successfully.

If you wonder about teamwork on projects ........just pick a thread and read a few dozen pages.

Yes there are a bunch of people here that are clearly trying to stop any progress in the most promising ......if you want to see who they are just find a topic where someone claimed OU.....they rush in like a flock  of starving vultures.

What I find most troubling about this site and all other OU sites that I know about is that the skeptics can make wild claims with no proof but if someone claims OU they have to prove every detail .......and on top of that they are expected to show how the device does not break any of the so called laws of physics.
It is very clear to me that our education system is part of the problem...... sense at least Teslas time our schools have actively taught that OU is impossible ..... The so called laws of physics have been tweaked to eliminate any possibility  of OU.

The job of the expermenter is to make things that work .
It is not the job of the expermenter to prove that no laws of physics are violated  ........if the process works and the laws of physics are violated the laws of physics need to be rewritten.



gary

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5740 on: May 23, 2012, 03:25:21 AM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5741 on: May 23, 2012, 05:00:52 PM »
Juan

I see you are new here.

You might want to read a little bit more before you pass judgement on this site.

As far as the prize ...... it has been years sense I read the requirements ......but I am pretty sure that one of the requirements of winning the prize is full disclosure
ANother requirement is it has to be replicated successfully.

If you wonder about teamwork on projects ........just pick a thread and read a few dozen pages.

Yes there are a bunch of people here that are clearly trying to stop any progress in the most promising ......if you want to see who they are just find a topic where someone claimed OU.....they rush in like a flock  of starving vultures.

What I find most troubling about this site and all other OU sites that I know about is that the skeptics can make wild claims with no proof but if someone claims OU they have to prove every detail .......and on top of that they are expected to show how the device does not break any of the so called laws of physics.
It is very clear to me that our education system is part of the problem...... sense at least Teslas time our schools have actively taught that OU is impossible ..... The so called laws of physics have been tweaked to eliminate any possibility  of OU.

The job of the expermenter is to make things that work .
It is not the job of the expermenter to prove that no laws of physics are violated  ........if the process works and the laws of physics are violated the laws of physics need to be rewritten.
gary
Hi Gary!

Yes I'm new posting here! But I have been silently reading lots of posts here. Of course I saw people collaborating, but I also saw people keeping secrets... and talking about the prize.

I don't want to lost focus of this thread... of course I'm a newbie in this page (and also in OU devices), and my opinion should be treated as that! :)  Thanks for answering to me!

And Physics, can be wrong, but I don't think it can be wrong in a general way... there are lots of very intelligent people learning Physics, I don't despite them, nor their matter. I believe (Well I'm SURE, but still no proofs) some border conditions can be wrong in some of the current physics laws (that also happened with Plank experiments before physics revolution in last century).

I'm investigating some stuff right now. :-X I will share if a find something useful...  (In a new thread)

Have a nice day good people!!

Offline resonanceman

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5742 on: May 24, 2012, 02:45:03 AM »
Hi Gary!

Yes I'm new posting here! But I have been silently reading lots of posts here. Of course I saw people collaborating, but I also saw people keeping secrets... and talking about the prize.

I don't want to lost focus of this thread... of course I'm a newbie in this page (and also in OU devices), and my opinion should be treated as that! :)  Thanks for answering to me!

And Physics, can be wrong, but I don't think it can be wrong in a general way... there are lots of very intelligent people learning Physics, I don't despite them, nor their matter. I believe (Well I'm SURE, but still no proofs) some border conditions can be wrong in some of the current physics laws (that also happened with Plank experiments before physics revolution in last century).

I'm investigating some stuff right now. :-X I will share if a find something useful...  (In a new thread)

Have a nice day good people!!


I dont think physics is wrong in a general way either .......but it is wrong in some very specific ways.
As long as you try to follow all the laws of physics you cant achieve OU.
There are some quirks that people are taught to work around .....there may be OU in some of them . One example is back emf pulses.


gary



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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5743 on: June 15, 2012, 04:14:54 PM »
Hi everyone,

One thing nobody still tried - duality on magnets.
Because in nature we always have two not oneI got idea: Instead of single magnet pole passing through coil, the 2 magnets should be joined together and their junction forming bloch wall should pass through coils. And generator coils themselves should be high voltage so Lenz force can be lagged. At certain speeds it should be much greater effect when dual pole magnets pass through those coils.
My suggestion is to have coil arranged in way where dual pole magnets edges touch U shape core edges and one dual pole magnet should be in center of that core. I made quick sketch trying to show how it should look like. Would be great if someone would actually try to make it... :)


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5744 on: July 08, 2012, 03:27:23 PM »
Hi Guys!

Im new in this forum. First of all sorry for moving your focus away from your very interesting ..... So this started 01/01/2008, after 4 years did anybody could replicate it?

Thanks a lot!!!

Greetings!
Juan from Argentina.
Hi Juan, please to meet you, if you find the time and take a look at my MULLER solution as I am sure it will enlighten you  ;)
http://www.view-tronics.com/mymindtwist/freeenergy/index.html
some parts photos...
http://picasaweb.google.com/sellier.bruno/MachineDeMullerParAPOC#

 

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