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Author Topic: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS  (Read 205191 times)

Offline Farmhand

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #240 on: September 16, 2013, 03:51:51 AM »
Fed ex plane in flies through a spary plane swarm = several spray planes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGTS4W4C-c

More.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZaJEMsSwM

In my humble opinion anyone who looks at the evidence and still denies any "Chemtrails" exist needs to see a special type of doctor.

Here is words from the mouth of a person in the "service".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrQPdLhhCNw

Just for the record I am no fan of Alex Jones, I think he is sus too. Just my take on him personally.

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #241 on: September 16, 2013, 03:56:42 AM »
Fuck you asshole I told you to not engage with me, and I mean it.

You think you're a smart ass and you want to provoke me?  Well on the other thread you were completely wrong and and fell flat on your face after your big talk, "If I see you preaching garbage, I will respond," and you showed that after all these years on the forums you still don't even understand how a transformer works.

Behaviour like yours leads to this when people aren't strong:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/bullied-12-year-fla-girl-commits-suicide-20240193

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/29/bullying-allegations-probed-after-boy-15-commits-suicide-after-first-day-school/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIHHoU3_w8U

http://www.komonews.com/news/national/Bullied-12-year-old-Fla-girl-commits-suicide-223518281.html

http://www.theledger.com/article/20130910/news/130919963

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/regun/636336434-bullied-teen-committed-suicide-says-coroner

http://www.startribune.com/nation/223663471.html

http://www.irishmirror.ie/female/health/teenage-model-who-tried-kill-2231714

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/alert-over-online-blackmailing-after-harassed-teenager-commits-suicide-29505453.html

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/08/30/60760.htm

There is a direct link between those articles and your disgusting behaviour.  Bow your head in shame.

I will repeat it again, FUCK OFF and don't engage with me on the forums.

I can guarantee you that I won't engage with you.


Lol, well dont kill yourself over it all, gees.

As for how I think a transformer works, well,  :P   You havnt changed my thinking on it. ;D

With all the links you just posted about regular people and you still believe the govts people are 100% straight up individuals and all is just happy happy joy joy. The way you defend them, you must be one of them or just plain lazy to open your eyes. Which one is it? My fantasy land or yours? ::)

The ideas of population reduction has been around for a long time. Bill Gates is admittedly involved, and guess who he hangs out with.  And chem trails have something to do with it. But thats only one part of it. Gmos, arsenic fluoride added to food and water. Drink lots of water, but dont swallow the toothpaste. ::) Oh, at what age should we not give children toothpaste with fluoride? Read the tube. But Walmart sells water for infants that list what ingredient???? INGREDIENT  SODIUM FLUORIDE.  But you Im sure have a very good answers to all those things. Your a smart guy. ::)

What about HPV vaccinations that in some states are given to students without parental 'notification' let alone permission. Then the recent articles of how teen pregnancies are DOWN in ALL 50 STATES!!! Idiot.  And Japanese gov has said that they do not endorse those vacs due to FERTILITY ISSUES!!!  Yet they still keep on jabbing.  My bosses daughter has issues after her 1st shot and so does the secretaries daughter.  Just coincidences heh?  Yeah.  >:(

But you wouldnt know anything about that stuff. Its just all in my imagination, right????::)


I will comment where and to whom ever I please as I see fit. :P    ;)


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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #242 on: September 16, 2013, 04:14:54 AM »
I was waiting at the doctors office and a woman had a child there recently vaccinated the child had suddenly lost use one of his feet, he was dragging it trying to walk and was forced to crawl to be safe.

I guess that happens when children are injected with substances containing mercury. Multi dose vials of vaccines can contain mercury as a preservative or adjuvant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjuvant

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Many people are also committing suicide because of all kinds of health problems that are ignored and left untreated, I was almost one, they made me out to be making things up in my head. I worked out what was wrong with me and told the doctor what to prescribe for me and I am now making a rapid recovery and am almost in remission. I feel human again. With complete denial from the medical doctors I demanded a psychological evaluation, which they do not want me to have because they know I am completely healthy in mind. So much for the damn doctors I had to research and correlate my symptoms and diagnose myself the doctors are so clueless they ask the patient what to do. It is pathetic.

The last thing we need is people denying the things that are happening that are not right and are likely causing mass health problems.

The Doctors have no idea what is wrong with a lot of people and treat them for other problems with lots of Pharma as well. Here the doctors are overwhelmed with patients and there is no time to investigate and treat people correctly.

Toughen up we have to. We must argue with doctors to get diagnosis and treatment, are treated like nut cases, yet they fear having us evaluated. Not logical.

There is a massive heath crisis looming and it is likely engineered.

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #243 on: September 16, 2013, 04:33:54 AM »
Fed ex plane in flies through a spry plane swarm = several spray planes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGTS4W4C-c

More.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZaJEMsSwM

In my humble opinion anyone who looks at the evidence and still denies any "Chemtrails" exist needs to see a special type of doctor.

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I think that this aerial spraying has been going on in the US since about the late 1980's.  I think that the states are paid from the federal government, to allow such flights.  It has to do with "weather control".   I've seen them spray an X in the sky to mark the coordinates where to spray.  They (the UN planes?; they are usually white jets) usually spray the day before a rain/storm front comes through, which makes white "skimmy" thin cloud cover.  There is also high altitude flights that put a light spray covering across the sky, which makes the sky a lighter color of blue.  I think it is supposed to reflect sun light, but what it ends up doing is causing heat to be trapped in the earth, that would naturally escape at night.  In my opinion, I think it contributes greatly to "global warming" the most and may be the only real reason for global warming, a redistribution of heat in the earth. 

It's amazing to me how many people don't even bother to look up in the sky and take notice.  I used to think that these were just "contrails".  But I looked at a jet that emitted just a normal contrail, and then saw a sprayer that put out a white stream, that in the sunlight had a rainbow color, (with a heavy spray), which may indicate oil content in the spray.  The spray did not disappear from the sky, but it spread out and remained.  But the normal "contrail" disappeared as normally expected.

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #244 on: September 16, 2013, 04:37:47 AM »
This woman see something and does not recognize it as a torus or vortex. It happens at 35 seconds and again at 44 seconds and at one minute, just to point out three time frames.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYz-WZsn0M

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Also when I distill my FILTERED rain water (filtered with a 5 micron particulate filter). When I pull the distiller up before all the water is processed the remaining water somehow develops short thick threads of white stuff. I'll try to pull up the next run and photograph it and keep a sample.

I recommend filtering and distilling all drinking water, reverse osmosis filters might be viable as well. Now that I do distill my filtered rain water I can drink lots of it and it tastes like real old fashioned rain water. Collecting rain water from a clean roof should not even require filtering. We ought to be able to drink from streams and creeks.

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Here is radio testimony from a Doctor about Chemtrails and Vaccines. EDIT: I did not realize they were selling stuff at the end of this video. I would not buy anything personally. That gives your address and name away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0

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« Last Edit: September 16, 2013, 11:15:44 AM by Farmhand »

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #245 on: September 16, 2013, 05:29:42 AM »
This woman see something and does not recognize it as a torus or vortex. It happens at 35 seconds and again at 44 seconds and at one minute, just to point out three time frames. EDIT: I did not realize they were selling stuff at the end of this video. I would not buy anything personally. That gives your address and name away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYz-WZsn0M

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Also when I distill my FILTERED rain water (filtered with a 5 micron particulate filter). When I pull the distiller up before all the water is processed the remaining water somehow develops short thick threads of white stuff. I'll try to pull up the next run and photograph it and keep a sample.

I recommend filtering and distilling all drinking water, reverse osmosis filters might be viable as well. Now that I do distill my filtered rain water I can drink lots of it and it tastes like real old fashioned rain water. Collecting rain water from a clean roof should not even require filtering. We ought to be able to drink from streams and creeks.

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Here is radio testimony from a Doctor about Chemtrails and Vaccines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0

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I read an article last year about a guy that had gotten permits to put ponds on his land. He got the permits, dug the ponds and they filled with rain water. The city somehow revoked the permits and told him to fill them back in. They said the rain water was not his to catch. :o :o   I believe it was in washington state or oregon.  Yep, wonderful people running this great land of the free. Luckily some of us are still 'brave'.  ;)

Mags

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #246 on: September 16, 2013, 06:28:42 AM »
Farmhand:

I watched several of your video links and I am not impressed at all.  We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.  Plus like I said, I just left my comments but I am truly not interested in the thread at all so this will be my last posting.

The clip where you sate, "This woman sees something and does not recognize it as a torus or vortex," I am incredibly surprised that you would say that or even link to a clip like that.  The woman is recording a reflection off of the inside of the window in her car.  It's that bad.

I did watch your clips like I stated.  So for fun I did a YouTube search so here is my contribution to "The Battle of the Clips."

MileHigh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqG6YV09fY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27QakO6VJc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4kkCijEYpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y97OK6qEIz0

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #247 on: September 16, 2013, 06:48:26 AM »
A few Natural and legal (so far) substances that I found helped me to detoxify. And the secret to my recovery was simple. Mycoplasma infection. Cause and effect show me that.
Treatment is with one of the tetracyclines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycoplasma

1) The leaf infusion and other products from the Star Apple Tree [ Chrysophyllum cainito ] ( mainly leaf infusion or tea and bark decoctions ).  Yes Witchcraft. hahahaha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysophyllum_cainito

2) Bee gathered Pollen. (For vitality and general vigor is why I eat that )

3) Yeast extracts. Vegemite or even I now as well take small amounts of dried dead yeast left from legal alcohol production.

4) Sunshine or Vitamin D. Sunshine should be avoided while taking the Minocycline mentioned below so then vitamin D supplementation may be necessary.

4) Positive mental attitude.

As well : For those who feel diseased or feel as though have have Chronic Fatigue problems, I would consider looking into asking the doctor for a course of Minocycline or Doxycyxline anti-biotics, which are prescribed for acne, they are long course anti-biotics semi synthetic and can cross the blood brain barrier. When the doctor asked me what he could do I asked him to prescribe a course of those and explained why, he complied and after only less than half the course I feel like a new man. I was improving with the natural supplements slowly but surely, I could maybe do better in the natural side when I finish the anti-biotic course, During anti biotic treatment I take pro-biotics out of time phase with the anti-biotics as calcium and iron can reduce the Minocycline uptake or effectiveness. I am taking 50 mg twice a day. Some doctors recommend 100 mg twice a day.

Extra notes: I can tell the Star apple Leaf Infusion or (Tea) has a profound effect as it caused my ears to ring after the first two drinks and my hearing improved. It also has a anti-inflammatory effect and acts like a diuretic. as well as helps to regulate blood sugar, mine is very stable now and my vitals are quite good as compared to a while ago and other people.

Check for allergic reaction when taking Bee gathered raw pollen.

Stay informed folks and watch for false prophets.

Cheers and better health to all.



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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #248 on: September 16, 2013, 01:23:09 PM »
No probs MileHigh, In the end it matters not what we think. What matters is what is happening. The reality of things at present is not changed by my or your opinion or the video's we link. However the future may be.

Better to be cautious, observe and ask questions than to be oblivious and take what comes.

We can argue all we like about this or that but the fact remains, people in authority knowingly harm us and do not stop.

Here are some things to consider.

Should any children be injected with mercury. Just because it was banned in the U.S. and some other countries because it was so dangerous and had already caused so much damage, does not mean it is not still injected into children. The same companies make it and sell it with full knowledge of it's effects.

http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/policy-and-issues/vaccines-spiked-with-harmful-adjuvants-administered-to-children/article972538.ece

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The trials conducted on at least 836 children at the Chacha Nehru Bal Chikitsalaya, the paediatric division of the Maharaja Yashwantrao Hospital, were spiked with adjuvants that contain high levels of mercury, aluminium, detergents, pesticides and human carcinogens.

Banned by FDA

An adjuvant is used to spike a vaccine to boost its impact and amplify the body's immune response to the vaccine.

Two of the adjuvants used, Thimerosal and Squalene, are banned by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) department of the United States. In India, there is still no protocol regarding the use of adjuvants.


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Are the new Adjuvants any less harmful.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/01/27/mercury-in-vaccines-was-replaced-with-something-even-more-toxic.aspx

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The short, eye-opening eBook linked below is titled Aluminum in Vaccines -- a Neurological Gamble, by Neil Miller, director of the Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute. It documents the hazards associated with aluminum-laden vaccines. Children are receiving high concentrations of aluminum in their shots. This well-documented neurotoxin may be more dangerous than mercury.

Vaccines containing high concentrations of neurotoxic aluminum were added to the child immunization schedule when several vaccines containing mercury were removed. Two-month old babies now receive 1,225 mcg of aluminum from their vaccines -- 50 times higher than safety levels! Although the FDA, CDC and World Health Organization are aware of the dangers, they expect parents to play Russian roulette with their children.

Years in the paragraph below could mean as few as two.

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When mercury was removed from many vaccines (except the flu vaccine) years ago, it was under the false guise that finally vaccines were now safe. What health agencies did not want you to know is that there are many other toxic additives still in vaccines, and one of them is aluminum.

Now I see absolutely no reason to believe our governments and our health workers have not already harmed us and our children, why not other departments, it seems to be purposeful to me. Sounds like a case of pull out the knife and stuff in a grenade. It's sick.

I refuse to trust any of them. And so do millions of others, thousands more every day. It's an exponential effect. A wave is building I would not want to get in it's way.

Oh and by the way that woman is not the only person to see those things, some have recorded them drop and form cones then disappear again. Could not be bothered to look for or link it though. I'm not here to prove anything just to present stuff. I don't do detailed checks. If I am wrong so be it I won't beat myself up over it and it does not change the spray planes I see with my own eyes. Who care what anyone else thinks we should think for ourselves.

I did check a couple of video's claiming UFO's and one I decided was a power pole transformer leaking and the other I decided on homing pigeons with halo's. I'm not so easily fooled. I will look at that video again though. I'll take your observation on board, since I did post it. I have no problem making retractions.

Cheers

P.S. Yes in my opinion the lady sees a real phenomena man made or not is not my call, but it resembles a downward moving "smoke ring" type torus. In my opinion. I see no movement to show a reflection movement and I can see the cloud rolling "like a smoke ring" I think.

I'll down load the video and look closer later, I have a run to still. Gotta go.

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #249 on: September 16, 2013, 08:05:39 PM »
Farmhand, many thanks for the links about metal in medication!


ChemShit: Even this they are doing:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/nasa-admits-trimethylaluminum-rocket-dumps-in-ionosphere/


The non readers we can't help!


Regards, Johan

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« Reply #250 on: September 17, 2013, 12:39:16 AM »
MileHigh, your broadside of links to begin with is a little dismissive, At least I provided descriptions with the links and have some of my own, where's your passion for your propaganda. One thing with propaganda is that to be effective it needs to be believable. I think my propaganda is better.  ;D And propaganda it is. Propaganda is not a dirty word.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

1) The first link states that we all think it is about population control only, not even true, then goes on to say it's the hi bypass jet engines. Well to my way of thinking the bypass air is for cooling and noise, the bypass air does not seem to be compressed and would be heated by the engine when it helps to cool it, I fail to see how it could freeze the vapor more than a regular engine.

2) The second link I consider bunk as well because the fedex video shows these planes are not known to be there by air traffic controllers, transponders off. No one I know of thinks passenger planes do it and if he says he can see 50 miles behind the plane while he's in it he's simply lying. No one thinks all the planes are owned by the military either.
And they do not fly through the chemtrails directly. The two 747's the president uses do not belong to him that is a lie, they belong to the U.S. people, the taxpayers, and he is not big or powerful he is a public servant, the people hold the power they just don't use it.

3) The third one I didn't watch because it is made by the same liar that made the second video.

4) He is using Alex Jones testimony, I don't trust alex and I think he is part of the problem, I think he a wolf in sheep's clothing. Chemtrails don't just last for hours they transform to be cloud like and remain for however long it takes the stuff to come down to the ground. In other words they do not re-vaporize at all. They have likely done the air flow test since planes have been in existence they do that as well but they are not the chemtrails we are concerned about. They are air flow tests or studies. Footage could also be faked. Also planes not burning the fuel well could leave a chem trail which is a kind of chemtrail not intended, being due to the unburned fuel. Lots of people wrongly identify chemtrail activity or after effects which adds confusion. Towards the end he's just showing a bunch of normal clouds and claiming they were claimed to be chem clouds by someone. Pathetic.

Herringbone clouds are perfectly normal and he claims they are claimed to be chemtrails, untrue. So are most of the other clouds he showed, clouds starting to or dropping rain can appear to be "like a Chem cloud" but are normal as well. These people presuppose we are all stupid and don't look at clouds and have not lived or observed before the 1990's.
http://www.sky-chaser.com/schcloud.htm

They also ignore the planes with spray nozzles of course.

Cheers



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« Reply #251 on: September 17, 2013, 01:02:59 AM »
In response to the video where the woman claims to see some strange phenomena a few post back in one of mine, and I say its a torus or a vortex, below is a clip of another one. I don't necessarily think it's Haarp and others can not help what people label their video's or what they say, I'm more interested in the video footage not the commentary or the title.

Cone forms and disappears in clouds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNahvVa_fSI

Maybe its just a natural thing I do not know. But it corroborates that she may well have seen this same kind of thing. All I said was I believe she seen a real thin happen, I did not attribute it to anything in particular.

Cheers

P.S. A semi related video. Possibly one reason for the spraying of the metalic substanes, Weather modification. I do not particulary agree with the commentary either, again.
Basically she is saying she is not afraid. Good on her. She has passion. Bless her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isG6V7RcF7E

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« Reply #253 on: March 25, 2014, 02:52:49 AM »
MileHigh, your broadside of links to begin with is a little dismissive, At least I provided descriptions with the links and have some of my own, where's your passion for your propaganda. One thing with propaganda is that to be effective it needs to be believable. I think my propaganda is better.  ;D And propaganda it is. Propaganda is not a dirty word.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

1) The first link states that we all think it is about population control only, not even true, then goes on to say it's the hi bypass jet engines. Well to my way of thinking the bypass air is for cooling and noise, the bypass air does not seem to be compressed and would be heated by the engine when it helps to cool it, I fail to see how it could freeze the vapor more than a regular engine.
Well, you can figure the part about the jet engines out by reading up on the history of jet engines.  The goal of a jet engine is to generate as much thrust as possible for the lowest fuel consumption and in the case of passenger aircraft: noise.  The source of thrust is the reaction force of the mass that the engine ejects.  There are two components to that mass: spent fuel products, primarily: CO2 and H20 and air.  If you want more ejection mass without increasing fuel consumption, then your only option is to draw in more air.  Air at high altitudes is rarified stuff, so to get a lot of mass each second, the engine has to inhale very large volumes. 

That is what turbofan engines, particularly high bypass turbofan engines do.  They breath huge amounts of air.  Vapor in that air flow condenses behind the engine creating these stratospheric fog machines if you will.  More vapor freezes because the engines breath much more air.  Tack on the fact that the number of flights jumped by over 50% from 1980 - 1995 (I can't easily get more current data right now) and there are a lot more of those big fog machines in the sky. 


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