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Author Topic: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)  (Read 82474 times)

Offline Michelinho

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Hi all,

After reading all I found about Captain Hans Coler work, I decided to replicate his Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus) and after I will do the Stromerzeuger. Thanks to pese for the most than welcome info on this little marvel. Don't know if it will work but if I won't know if I don't try.

Here are the first pictures of my replication of the magnetstromapparat. The setup is not finish and still a few things to do before the tests start.

Enjoy,

Michel



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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 03:17:08 AM »

The schematic of the unit.

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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 04:04:37 PM »
@Michel,
Nice work! It's clear from your photos how you intend to tune it too, sliding the boards in and out. Keep us posted.
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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 04:04:37 PM »
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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 04:39:59 PM »

Hi all,

Just done with the tuning coils for the magnetstromapparat, it does look similar and just as big as the one used in the first picture. Only one section of the unit to replicate (Rys.4). Back to the pencil and paper. :)

Take care,

Michel

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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2009, 05:50:13 PM »
@Michelinho

Nice work, I wish you all the best and will be following your work..

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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2009, 10:56:38 AM »
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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2009, 12:48:46 PM »
Michel

 If RYS.1 is a detailed drawing of the magnets/windings and RYS.2 is the layout of those magnets arranged in a circle and at the bottom of drawing of Rys2 is a adjustable bifiller air cored transformer which could be a step up or a step down type then?
   There are also some very unclear points about Res.1 . The central bindings are soldered the outer bindings are not, so at least the central bindings are solderable thin wire making them a coil of steel or copper or even some type of silver coated conductive wire. There is no reason to solder the copper wire to a magnet then place a binding over the solder points to hold it in place. That would not hold to the mentality of that period, that is conversely tomorrows artifact of todays thinking.
   You have put a bit of work into it and done a fine job I would hate to see you waste your time and your materials. This is the most simple one with least amount of stuff. So may I suggest you re- examine the patent more closely and I do so with respect to your efforts already put into your build. You can also speculate some things about the materials from the Brit report regarding availability during the period of time they mention providing Cooler with the materials to build another unit.

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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 02:02:15 PM »
Nice pics Michelinho :D

Good luck with your replication!
Looks like a nice build you've got there. :)

I couldn't really make it out very well on your photos,
so I'll ask: did you use iron magnets and iron wire?

After all, Coler most likely used iron "permanent" magnets
since they were common in his day and things like neodymium
magnets weren't around yet. And obviously the magnets need
to be conductive, ergo: iron. Also, as Steven and I spoke about
recently in one of the other Coler threads here, there's a number
of magnet-coil-setups that share some characteristic elements,
like some Testatika parts for example, and they all use oldfashioned
iron magnets with coils of mostly iron wire around and attached to
the magnets. It would seem that this common element was most
likely also used by Coler. Hence the iron wire question. ;)

Kind regards,
Koen

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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2009, 04:26:33 PM »
After all, Coler most likely used iron "permanent" magnets
since they were common in his day and things like neodymium
magnets weren't around yet. And obviously the magnets need
to be conductive, ergo: iron. Also, as Steven and I spoke about
recently in one of the other Coler threads here, there's a number
of magnet-coil-setups that share some characteristic elements,
like some Testatika parts for example, and they all use oldfashioned
iron magnets with coils of mostly iron wire around and attached to
the magnets. It would seem that this common element was most
likely also used by Coler. Hence the iron wire question. ;)

Actually, we don't know that the testatika used iron wire for the wiring. That was a speculation on my part due to the similarity with Colers' stromerzeuger and to a lessor extent, the Roy Meyers device. The Roy Meyers device definately used iron wire (I just rechecked) and I thought the Stomerzeuger did too but I just checked again and it looks like I misremembered. The Brittish report says that silver wires were used. Are silver wires magnetizable?
-Steve
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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2009, 04:26:33 PM »
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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2009, 06:25:38 PM »
 Never have come across pure silver magnet steve. Silvered wire would be easier to solder if the wire were fine or thin.Many materials were in short supply during the war partly due to usage partly due to theft.
 I disagree that the wires were soldered to the magnets partly due to the level of difficulty partly due to it would just short it out in the end.Any build up of potential would result in heat which weaken the magnets.

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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2009, 01:36:34 AM »

Hi all,

Quote
I couldn't really make it out very well on your photos,
so I'll ask: did you use iron magnets and iron wire?
Koen1

I used 1/2"X1/2"X4" iron magnets (homemade). They were drilled at 30mm from one end and 35mm from the other, then awg 20 solid copper wire was jammed in these holes and either exited or was wound around the magnets: 3 like the Rys.1 and 3 with reverse magnet polarity. The wire were not soldered (wooden wedges were used) as this unit is a proof of concept and oxidation wont occur until it is well tested. Too strong a magnet may well be detrimental to the working of the magnetstromapparat.

I thought of iron wire but I think it would divert the magnetic field from where it is active and interacting.

Take care all,

Michel


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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 01:03:26 PM »
Actually, we don't know that the testatika used iron wire for the wiring. That was a speculation on my part due to the similarity with Colers' stromerzeuger and to a lessor extent, the Roy Meyers device. The Roy Meyers device definately used iron wire (I just rechecked) and I thought the Stomerzeuger did too but I just checked again and it looks like I misremembered. The Brittish report says that silver wires were used. Are silver wires magnetizable?
-Steve
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    note: reference for the silver wire found while reading up on thermopile development prior to the same period .
  "German silver". German silver (better known nowadays as nickel silver) is the generic name for a range of bright silver-grey metal alloys, composed of copper, nickel and zinc; it contains no real silver


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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2009, 02:16:06 PM »

    note: reference for the silver wire found while reading up on thermopile development prior to the same period .
  "German silver". German silver (better known nowadays as nickel silver) is the generic name for a range of bright silver-grey metal alloys, composed of copper, nickel and zinc; it contains no real silver

That's correct. Although I wonder how relevant it is in this regard... After all, was it also not mentioned in the British report that
Coler built the versions they studied right there on the spot, mostly from materials obtained in Britain itself?
And what type of silver would be most common in post-war Britain, British "sterling" silver, or German nickel "silver"?
I would really expect the Brits to mean actual sterling type silver when they write down "silver", and not a nickel alloy
used by the former enemy...
But of course that's just my opinion, I am not certain, and it is equally well possible that they did indeed not use real silver
at all but rather a siver-coloured alloy such as nickel-zinc-copper alloy for example.

@Steven: Ok, sorry, it is indeed true that the use of iron wire in the Testatika was my speculation and not
an assertion made by Steven, nor actually based on much clear info. I do have a drawing by Geoff Egel if I'm
not mistaken that shows the Linden experiment and clearly mentions a length of iron wire coiled around the
horseshoe magnet, but I do not have any direct info from Baumann on that at all. There are still a few other
magnet-coil-cap setups around that do indicate the use of iron wire coiled around magnets though, and I
personally do think there are a few similarities there. I think it may be possible to use the magnetic resonance
of the iron to couple the spin of the magnet to the oscillations of electrons in the wire, and that this may be
what Coler and a few others did.
I am also still intrigued by Colers remark that the electron should not just be considered as a negative electrical
charge, but also as a south magnetic pole. Very unconventional but an interesting approach...  :)

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Re: Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2009, 06:49:41 AM »

Hi all,

After a week of adjustments  when passing by the magnetstromapparat, I have to say that this idea works. It doesn't work as I would like it with the power that I expected but nevertheless it does.

Probably due to the weak magnets that I made, I got a few weak positive output. I tried adding neodynium magnets at the ends of the 6 magnets but no potential ever registered on my multimeter. With the weak iron magnets (homemade) and copper coils, I was able to get once 0.019 volt, 0.011 volt a few times and 0.010 volt quite often with similar settings. It's not much but enough to validate the concept.

Next step will be with cow magnets, I will try to find old ones so they are not neodynium or ceramic based. That might be a tough one. If I can't find any, I'll try to make new iron magnets.

Till something new occurs, I'll work on other projects.

Take care,

Michel

The picture is of the test setup.

 

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