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Author Topic: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant  (Read 540515 times)

Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2265 on: March 18, 2010, 12:05:25 AM »
  @AB Hammer,
 You hAve me at a disadvantage.
I asked Alexioco to talk to you about leaving me alone. He told me I should stay away from you.
I told him that in the USA, what you have been doing is considered cyber stalking.
 While you might have posted in Museum of hoaxes that you are an American man and have said in here that I am anti-American, it is you who rejeect my schooling in engineering end experience int he US Navy and what I learned working at Boeing, Americca's largest exporter.
 You claim that your Medievel british Armoring makess you more knowledgeable. And really, can i expect alexioco to not support someone who supports the midievel British Empire ass much ass you do ? I would be a fool.
 After all, my own father is the same way about Norway. He does love his country. I think that is where I am different. I have lived in Europe as well as America and have family in both. Should I say one is superior ?
 This is where I might as well post in my own forum. Sooner or later people who would like to actually discuss more than British Armoring would be able to do so.

                                                                                         

Jim Lindgaard

 Stop talking to or about me. I will not stop talking to others and I wouldn't expect you to either. And most of all keep it on the wheel only. Like I have said before. This has to stop.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2266 on: March 18, 2010, 12:25:55 AM »
OK Jim

 WILL YOU STOP !! if I let you know one of my secrets?

Alan

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2267 on: March 18, 2010, 01:11:17 AM »
  Alan,
 I might be stopping. Doing builds that is. It is like when i was going through chemo therapy. One of the nurses said she heard it was like getting ran over by a car. I told her it was. They had to give me steroids so I could lay on my couch instead of the floor.
 Then with 2 weeks in the hospital for 2 surgeries could be dealt with. But add on another 4 1/2 weeks for infections plus the time out of the hospital with those infections and going a couple of weeks just about with out eating, thought I'd do something to forget about that. But have found this isn't it.
 Besides Alan, I think you have missed it. The water wheel is Bessler's wheel. But even that doesn't matter.
So the fool figured oiut how to use hydraulic principles. Unless someone could have invented a seal, it was worthless. With a seal, they could've had running water.
 But as it was then is as it is now, still the wrong time.

Jim

 Stop talking to or about me, and filling the forum with your delusional bull$#!+ of how you "know for sure"  (When it is best a hypotheses) with only veg relations at best. This can be translate and is by many as taking credit where credit is not due. For instance, nothing you have shown, shows any real relation with Abeling's wheel. If you do some research you will find another patent claim that is similar to Abeling's. A warped board (which was never said by Bessler by the way), only has a VEG resemblance to a large ramp. That is like saying that your home is like the Winchester house because it is made of wood. No real relations with design at all.

Alan

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2267 on: March 18, 2010, 01:11:17 AM »
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2268 on: March 18, 2010, 01:59:48 PM »
[  Alan,
 What is delusional is you considering yourself a teacher.
Considering I got my self what schooling I could and have always taken the initiative in my life,
not sure why i would need an abusive person like you instructing me.
 I'd have to hate myself to learn anything from you.


                                                                    Jim

OK Jim

 So you go on baffling with bull$#!+ because you have no brilliance. And it seams you hate me so much. You fill it is your life's obligation to falsely accuse, and lie about me to try to destroy someone who may very well have the wheel. You have become my personal hemorrhoid of life. I need to buy some cybor hemorrhoid cream.

 As for Abeling's wheel you should read back on my comments from before where I said something like. I couldn't see how it could work and also posted an example of something that had been tried before. But Abeling is not trying to tell the world how much smarter he is than I so comments don't keep going back and forth.

There is a lesson for you there. If I say something prove me wrong with facts, not baffle with BULL$#!+. and then it moves one. Is that simple enough for you?


  But ass I've said, all you do is disagree with me. I mean really, calling me an educated idiot. Do you say that to anyone else ? Maybe not because peole quit posting when you join the discussion.

 I have called allot of people educated idiots in my life. They have all the book smarts and no basic capability. For instance if you can quote books and have no idea how to check you oil in their car. That is just an example of an educated idiot. As to killing strings. You are the main problem. You start attacking me and I have to defend myself from you lies and harassment. That is one of the reason you have been banned from several forums.

 OH! :o I think I have it. You are a Moe to mislead and attack inventors who may have the wheel. This way people will be tired of the forum because of your crap. And I am making the mistake of talking to you instead of pressing charges for your slander.  I hope they are paying you well. :o 

« Last Edit: March 18, 2010, 03:50:08 PM by AB Hammer »

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2269 on: March 19, 2010, 03:24:05 AM »
I need an over under spread, and or some dxfs

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2269 on: March 19, 2010, 03:24:05 AM »
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2270 on: March 19, 2010, 03:27:26 AM »
I will bookie all bets. winner gets all via paypal thru public poll link.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2271 on: March 19, 2010, 03:29:59 AM »
just kidding, go elf urself, cheer up boys, life is futile

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2271 on: March 19, 2010, 03:29:59 AM »
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2272 on: March 19, 2010, 03:41:22 AM »
X00013,    I will take the OVER  !   Jim will never quit.   I wish he would.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2273 on: March 19, 2010, 04:35:48 AM »
I made a video where I measured the force at the end of both tracks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiAZJ70tf7k

Mostly it's an experiment to see what's really going on.

Thanks, Dusty

Oh, by the way I haven't given up on the gravity wheel.  I have some new ideas I need to test.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2274 on: March 19, 2010, 12:18:15 PM »
Great work as usual Dusty!   Many thanks.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2275 on: March 19, 2010, 02:32:11 PM »
@Dusty, nicely done.

The start and end points of both ramps need to be at the same angle as well as same height to get exactly equal force results.  It looks like your "long ramp" ends with a slightly upward trajectory vs. the straight ramp.  If so, that would be the cause of the slightly different end force results you are seeing.

M.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2276 on: March 19, 2010, 02:42:16 PM »
Dusty
Thanks for taking the time to test this!
It does seem like something to have in the mental tool box
when your thinking of the "what ifs".

Chet

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2277 on: March 19, 2010, 02:47:22 PM »
@Dusty,

You the man. That's what everybody who's interested in this should be doing -- take the bull by the horns. Would it be possible to make this same experiment with a cycloid rather than with that wavy track? For one thing the average speed of the ball will be the fastest with the cycloid path, as is known from variational calculus. Cycloid path seems easier to make and it will be easier on the ball in terms of friction and steadiness of motion. Thanks again for the video.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2278 on: March 19, 2010, 02:54:45 PM »
Dusty

 I like what mondrasek said to the end of the ramps that way they have an equal impact direction and add to the due round bar I suggested. We also hve to remember that in a wheel it all has to take place in 1 second  per revolution at 60 rpms for an example. I will admit I like your impact test.

Alan

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2279 on: March 20, 2010, 02:33:40 AM »
  Dusty,
Don't worry about it. I already know it will work.
Alan is the actual problem. He has said many times he only considers his armoring to be real engineering.
This is because when I worked at Boeing, I worked in a hammer shop. He doesn't consider hand work parts that support the structural integrity of an airplane as engineering.
 He's also said my having cancer doesn't matter as other people have cancer. My mother died from the same cancer I had last year in 2005. He can tell it to her along with his supporters.
 You will see, there is ignorance and then there are Alan and his supporters. They think a bad attitude os better. it means they don't have to do or show anything.
 After all, none of them have shown a build based on an idea. For what you builtt, Alan couldn't do.
 To let you know how bad it can be in here, when I posted that if I got what I believe to be Bessler's wheel on the history channel, I would be happy. Alan responded that I wanted to rule the world.
 And next he'll post I lie but his post is still there.

Correction time as usual for Jim

Alan is the actual problem. He has said many times he only considers his armoring to be real engineering.

No you are the problem, and I said Blacksmithing/armouring is an early and pure form of engineering as well. YOU!! said it was not engineering.

The rest is so many lies and bull$#!+ it is not worth commenting on.

I knew he would to come back to lie and slander

By the way Jim. How are you going to keep your wheel from doing this as show in the picture below? For what I see this is all you are going to get. Like I said I only want to talk wheel.


 

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