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Cold Electricity
« on: April 30, 2009, 07:11:26 AM »
Cold Electricity, Radiant Energy or Negative Energy.  I think they are all pretty much the same.

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Cold Electricity
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2009, 10:14:01 AM »
Cold electricity is TRUE electricity.
It is the real power without electron flow.
This type of electricity was shown to us by Mr.Tesla over 100 years ago.

The electrons are simply "dragged" by this Cold electricity flow and this creates what we see as resistance.
And this is also the reason why conventional electricity shows up on our meters.
We can measure resistance, but True Cold electricity does not show up on our meters, because there is no electron flow, yet it can burn a filament bulb on one wire.

In conventional electricity, the dragging electrons , create the magnetic field and, these two go hand in hand.
This is the reason why we won't find any OU in magnetics.
The magnetic fields are caused by the dragging electrons, which in turn are a secondary effect of this primary True Cold Electricity flow.
You can't tap something secondary without the primary part that caused it...

For some people, all this is well understood, but for the most part, people are still thinking electricity is electron flow and even our teachers tell us it is.

Marco



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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2009, 02:28:32 PM »

-[marco]-

Any way you can help us to understand what cold electricity is, and how to find/use it
would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Cold Electricity
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2009, 03:12:53 PM »
Read Tesla, Eric P. Dollard, Charles Proteus Steinmetz and do some of them test's.
That's how i came to understand. :)

Marco.

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Re: Cold Electricity
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2009, 07:04:23 PM »
Marco
thankyou

Wings 

WOOOOOOW!!!

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2009, 07:30:45 PM »
Cold electricity is TRUE electricity.
It is the real power without electron flow.
This type of electricity was shown to us by Mr.Tesla over 100 years ago.

The electrons are simply "dragged" by this Cold electricity flow and this creates what we see as resistance.
And this is also the reason why conventional electricity shows up on our meters.
We can measure resistance, but True Cold electricity does not show up on our meters, because there is no electron flow, yet it can burn a filament bulb on one wire.

In conventional electricity, the dragging electrons , create the magnetic field and, these two go hand in hand.
This is the reason why we won't find any OU in magnetics.
The magnetic fields are caused by the dragging electrons, which in turn are a secondary effect of this primary True Cold Electricity flow.
You can't tap something secondary without the primary part that caused it...

For some people, all this is well understood, but for the most part, people are still thinking electricity is electron flow and even our teachers tell us it is.

Marco

You first say that cold electricity drags the electrons, then you say at the end, electricity is not electron flow.  You also said true cold electricity is without electron flow and it can burn a filament bulb on one wire.  Doesn't the wire that is being burned from the cold electricity have free electrons in it, that would be dragged by this cold electricity in order to cause the bulb to light?    Replace those filament wires with a wire that doesn't have free electrons and see if the bulb lights with either cold electricity or "true cold electricity", since according to you, electricity isn't electron flow.

Cold electricity is a negative time flow of electrons while hot electricity is a forward time flow of electrons.  Until people recognize time as being a factor and stop considering it as a measurement only, this will never be understood.

Without time, energy can not be released or converted from one form to another.  An aether unit is composed of forward and negative time.  This is where the electrons gets it's energy in order to maintain it's own magnetic field.

Cold electricity does register on our instruments as BEMF since it is flowing in negative time or flowing backwards.  There is a difference between BEMF and cold electricity, but we will see cold electricity on our instruments as BEMF.


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« Last Edit: April 30, 2009, 09:25:21 PM by gravityblock »

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 08:27:36 PM »
So it seems Cold Electricity has more meanings to diffrent people.
Same thing happens with Bemf or Back Emf.
Some people say the Bemf is simply the spike which is seen comming from a coil when power is switched off, and others believe Bemf happens whenever the field strength increases or decreases...

It has been shown to us by Mr.Tesla that his form of Cold Electricity is what is called a massless current.
This means without electron movement since electrons seem to have mass.
Because or this it can go faster, much faster, far beyond lightspeed.
However ,backwards is a diffrent thing.

There are several people who have replicated some of Tesla's work and they all agree the electrons get "choked" inside the coils along the way ,and thus only real massless current can pass.
This behaves diffrent then conventional electricity because it will seek it's way along dielectric paths ignoring short circuits.

There are several setups which show these behaviours.
For example if you read Mr. Eric P. Dollard's book "Condensed intro into Tesla Transformers, you will find setups that produce this form of electricity.
Take a close look at figure 4 which is the balanced coil system.
It encounters segments of coils which have a direct relationship to the total wavelength of all coils toghether.

I won't go into detail, just read the literature and do the tests if you want to find out the real nature of the beast.

Marco.
 



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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2009, 09:36:40 PM »
You first say that cold electricity drags the electrons, then you say at the end, electricity is not electron flow.  You also said true cold electricity is without electron flow and it can burn a filament bulb on one wire.  Doesn't the wire that is being burned from the cold electricity have free electrons in it, that would be dragged by this cold electricity in order to cause the bulb to light?    Replace those filament wires with a wire that doesn't have free electrons and see if the bulb lights with either cold electricity or "true cold electricity", since according to you, electricity isn't electron flow.

When a bulb is lit with cold electricity, is it lit because of the wire or the parameters of the space around the wire?  If just a wire then a filament should glow outside of the bulb.

If reverse time has anything to do with it, then how can we experience it in forward time?

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2009, 09:45:49 PM »
When a bulb is lit with cold electricity, is it lit because of the wire or the parameters of the space around the wire?  If just a wire then a filament should glow outside of the bulb.

If reverse time has anything to do with it, then how can we experience it in forward time?

We experience it in forward time as BEMF that runs cool and not hot.

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2009, 10:00:51 PM »

You first say that cold electricity drags the electrons,


It starts as massless cold electricity, then drags the electrons and becomes conventional electricity.


then you say at the end, electricity is not electron flow.


That is correct, the electron flow is a secondary effect.


 You also said true cold electricity is without electron flow and it can burn a filament bulb on one wire. 


That is correct also, and you can even try this yourself.


Doesn't the wire that is being burned from the cold electricity have free electrons in it, that would be dragged by this cold electricity in order to cause the bulb to light?   


In the first place, if the bulb is burning on one wire, we have a setup that behaves like a open loop, this means close to infinite resistance, and according to the classical viewpoint electrons also do not flow in open loop.

Second ,In fact, there is no part in our classical books that explains why the bulb lites up, yet it does.


Replace those filament wires with a wire that doesn't have free electrons and see if the bulb lights with either cold electricity or "true cold electricity", since according to you, electricity isn't electron flow.


This type of electricity moves over wires, not through wires, it flows over the (dielectric) surface and has got nothing to do with electrons.

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2009, 11:44:52 PM »

This type of electricity moves over wires, not through wires, it flows over the (dielectric) surface and has got nothing to do with electrons.

Marco.

The bulb should light with your theory of "true cold electricity", if the filament wires don't have free electrons, since this type of electricity doesn't have anything to do with electrons, but it doesn't.....so your theory that electricity isn't electron flow can not be correct.

You're right, it has nothing to do with electrons, but has everything to do with photons in regards to what your referring to.  Now, tell me that the photons aren't responsible for the photovoltaic effect in a solar panel that causes electrons to move to provide an electrical current.  Will the photons that hit a photovoltaic cell provide an electrical current if no electrons move?  Of course not.

In physics, virtual photons are said to be the magnetic field of flux in a magnet, which causes electrons to flow and provide electricity.  These photons can only do work by moving electrons.  No electrons to move, then no work can be done by these photons.

Cold electricity uses the negative time flow of the magnetic field which converts the virtual photons into electrons and is replenished by the aether.  Hot electricity uses forward time flow of the magnetic field, which scatters the electrons into virtual photons (heat) which replenishes the aether.  As you can see, the cold electricity I am referring to is the reverse process of hot electricity.
 
Also, the electrons don't move through the wire either.....they move on the surface of the wires.

In the first place, if the bulb is burning on one wire, we have a setup that behaves like a open loop, this means close to infinite resistance, and according to the classical viewpoint electrons also do not flow in open loop.

It only looks like an open loop. The loop is closed due to space/time being short circuited.
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2009, 11:50:20 PM »
We experience it in forward time as BEMF that runs cool and not hot.

BEMF is the emf generated in a wire next to a wire with current flowing through it, which is in opposition to the first current.

It is not magnetic field collapse or backward time.

If cold electricity involves a movement of electrons or is BEMF - why is there no magnetic field associated with it?


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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2009, 11:52:44 PM »
Then the bulb should light with "true cold electricity" if the filament wires don't have free electrons, but it doesn't.....so your theory that electricity isn't electron flow can not be correct.
 
Also, the electrons don't move through the wire either.....they move on the surface of the wires.

Foursescent bulbs do not have a filament.

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2009, 12:04:22 AM »
Foursescent bulbs do not have a filament.

Then replace the circuitry with wires that don't have free electrons, and the bulb will not light.  The florescent bulbs you are referring to works on the principals of an electrical current exciting the gas to give off ultraviolet photons which hits the electrons in the phosphor that causes the bulb to give off visible light. Remove the free electrons in the phosphor coating and the bulb will not light.  Same thing with a solar panel, photons hit a certain material, which causes electrons to move that gives rise to an electrical current.  No movement of electrons, then no electricity.

Why you quoting from me, Marco is the one who first mentioned the filaments in the bulb, not me.  Besides, who mentioned anything about fluorescent bulbs to begin with?
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