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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13870987 times)

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12000 on: June 14, 2012, 10:18:19 PM »
Take 7 thing on the table. HV diode, normal diode, high freqency generator for make high voltage, smal bobin (coil) and conedenser (1,2 or 4). Spark gap.

If connect spark gap between condenser HV generator and coil, getting resonance circuit. Spark gap is use for automatic change frequency in ac circuit. Or for condenser discharge in DC circuit. Talking about HV circuit.
Sorry, I can't visualize this. Could you please draw a quick diagram of it? :)


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« Reply #12001 on: June 14, 2012, 10:32:21 PM »
Spark is the most simplest and I would say the best in economy modulator. Again is not an invention of Tariel but even Tesla do not stated it was him when presented his method of conversion in 1893.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12002 on: June 14, 2012, 11:03:09 PM »

Hi Jbignes5,

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Itsu,

 Could you connect the hv hf coil to one end of the coil around the cap and see what the charging rate is then. Have you tried to connect both ends of the coil to each cap terminal then read voltages normally? Maybe doing both eventually could show the current loop we want to create. Also you might want to have a safety spark gap to handle excessive currents in between the cap and coil. This would allow a buildup and release in a natural pulsing mode.

i tried to do severall tests like you suggested, but as i have to wait for some spark gaps (arrestors), some tests are not possible now.

I definitely need spark gaps to protect my capacitors from overloading.

Here the results up till now:  http://youtu.be/xDXR2QyTW_Q


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12004 on: June 14, 2012, 11:44:03 PM »
Sorry, I can't visualize this. Could you please draw a quick diagram of it? :)


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This is like Lego....
if put right cube to the right place you have right staf. :-)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12005 on: June 15, 2012, 12:10:29 AM »
if put right cube to the right place you have right staf. :-)
So as it seems I have wrong cube.

My current secondary coil (bifilar) resonates at approx. 2.4MHz (see screenshot of oscilloscope). To get resonance with spark gap I need high voltage with 2.4MHz (in my understanding). But unfortunately my spark goes off when I go beyond 250KHz.

Hence, any Ideas how to act further?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12006 on: June 15, 2012, 12:18:06 AM »
try to use a harmonic of the 2.4mhz, lower the HV source to 240khz as an example. you just need to kick it

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12007 on: June 15, 2012, 02:06:03 AM »
Hi Jbignes5,

i tried to do severall tests like you suggested, but as i have to wait for some spark gaps (arrestors), some tests are not possible now.

I definitely need spark gaps to protect my capacitors from overloading.

Here the results up till now:  http://youtu.be/xDXR2QyTW_Q


Regards Itsu.


 Excellent.. I do appreciate your professional manner when showing what you have discovered. The spark gap is very important to the successive experiments after the first. What we are trying to do is build a dam and let it overflow across the gap. This should create a very substantial current flow as suggested by Tesla and others. Just make sure you have a safety on and off at the cap/coil. and between the HV of the katcher. Just to be safe.
 Another suggestion is to put some space in between the coil windings beyond the first coil wrap.


 Yet another experiment is what would happen if you replace the copper pipe in the Katcher to the cap by itself? With safety gap!!!!!! Please approach the coil top with very easy movement and monitor the cap as it goes in the Katcher coil.




 As I thought we can energize a cap just by the electric field so if we move this inside the Kanadze system it should become the source potential. Then all we need to do is put the shield coil around the bifilar and then the collection coil outside of that with another shield coil around that. The shield coil on the outside will always be on or shorted. This is to reflect all input by the bifilar into the main capacitor. the collection coil is there for collection when the internal shield coil is un-shorted. So when we short the internal shield coil it gains speed by reflecting back and forth between the cap and near reflector. Once the reflector is un-shorted it will pass the super excited energy twords the collection coils. Then immediately short the first again to let it build up again.


 Yeah so the second cap must be done differently. Try it directly connected to the cap can. This you might want to do at a lower voltage, if you can adjust it.


 Thanks for the video it helped tons to see it going and came to the same conclusions as you did. By the way did you connect one end of the cap/coil to ground? You probably should or to a slab of metal... It should increase the results.

 P.S. It's a phonetic. J Bigness.. Yes thats my real name...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12008 on: June 15, 2012, 02:07:38 AM »
So as it seems I have wrong cube.

My current secondary coil (bifilar) resonates at approx. 2.4MHz (see screenshot of oscilloscope). To get resonance with spark gap I need high voltage with 2.4MHz (in my understanding). But unfortunately my spark goes off when I go beyond 250KHz.

Hence, any Ideas how to act further?


Regards


 Add a pair of magnets to the spark gap...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12009 on: June 15, 2012, 02:39:39 AM »
http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html



http://montalk.net/notes/longitudinal-waves
, longitudinal waves do not violate Maxwell’s equations, rather they are what Maxwell termed
 current. Usually current is defined as a flow of charges. But across a capacitor consisting of two conductors separated by an insulator that allows no charge to pass, oscillating energy can still transfer. Physicists aren’t sure precisely how to explain displacement current other than that the changing electric field from one conductor induces a magnetic field that induces another electric field on the second conductor. However if the conductors consist of one spherical electrode inside another,
all the magnetic fields cancel and yet there is still a displacement current
. This proves that the displacement current is nothing more than a longitudinal E/M wave in some cases. In other cases a magnetic field might indeed play a role, but the Maxwell equations allow for either possibility.


I think I have got something:
 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message162830/pg1
That could explain John Hutchison
And possibly World Trade Center phenomena might be  analyzed by that  token.


If energy density is to be at one point at given time than
 impact must be felt at that particular point
Imagine that you are taking shower where shower  head has parallel dishes and pressure start to  fluctuate 
You will feel that concentration of energy.
If than you compare it to garden hose  than you may push the sand or damage the green at given point just by  fluctuating  longitudinal wave
If than that longitudinal wave is upside down  facing up than balls on the top of it will levitate.


So if Army say is in possession of such or say John Huthison was in possession of one than he could damage or levitate objects.NMR THAN IS ADDITION TO LONGITUDINAL WAVES that makes  transmutation happened.
Than you connect two of above and you might have possible dustification of towers.
Theory of Dr Judy Wood is than impliable attribute .


So was Tesla envisioning wireless electricity or
idea of a Tesla directed energy weapon causing the Tunguska..... to the area in 1927 to find evidence of the meteorite presumed to have caused the blast
http://prometheus.al.ru/english/phisik/onichelson/tunguska.htm




SUMARY:
Think please.
If I'm right we than have theoretical  skeleton to explain  everything including
-Tesla wireless electricity transfer.
-Tariel Kapanadze
-9/11
-Tom Barden experiments
-John Hutchison antigravity and  transmutation\\
- ultimate killing machine.
-dustification and more.



Schumann resonances


Please first
1. view interactive video on right side of the screen in Wikipedia ( push the button below)
2. concentrate on electromagnetic resonance series pattern
3. notice that if originated at one point   than travels to ionosphere and  reflects causing series of lightnings in another parts of the world.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

How do I see it.?


1.HAARP   may send Longitudinal Wave at certain angle in form of beam. 

2.  That causes reflection by ANGLE OF INCIDENT
3 That is precise tool  of controlling geographic  XYZ of target point.
At september 11 of 2001 we have had hurricane #3 in NY that was just waiting next to Long Island for few days and not many people know about it. It  was not in the media :) And than disappeared. 

We do not need much of of energy there. Resonance is the key
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message162830/pg1


In area of  weather we use it just as a trigger . By  adjusting  concentration of energy we hitting target with energy bullet.
In area of total destruction we still are able to have guided weapon the only diameter of the beam and focusing  of beam is in question AS I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE IN THIS AREA
Amplification  of beam properties or coupling to it ,using natural resources  of that existing energy is pure speculation



 



So I'm asking  you
what if for some  weird reason I'm right.

Than all "they" need is to know what Tesla known and what science  oppose to know.
but by recalling side effects of Lithuania experiment
"they" can  be in possession  of ultimate  weapon against all of us.
  just think...............................


term "they" or "them" is reserved to real terrorists, the real one  responsible for killing thousands of people


 


 











Supporting material:
Light is electromagnetic wave  too.
Super-resolution and non-diffraction longitudinal polarized beam
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0709/0709.2748.pdf






Quote
longitudinal field has many
attractive applications, e.g. in particle acceleration [2, 6,
7, 13], fluorescent imaging [14], second harmonic
generation [15-17] and Raman spectroscopy [18]. It can
permit the achievement of higher resolution in  zpolarized confocal fluorescence microscopy [19] and
scattering scanning near-field optical microscopy [20].   
 The longitudinal field can be suppressed or enhanced
by amplitude, polarization and phase modulation of the
incident beam [21]. For example, a longitudinal field can
be completely suppressed in an azimuthally polarized
beam








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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12010 on: June 15, 2012, 09:04:15 AM »
So as it seems I have wrong cube.

My current secondary coil (bifilar) resonates at approx. 2.4MHz (see screenshot of oscilloscope). To get resonance with spark gap I need high voltage with 2.4MHz (in my understanding). But unfortunately my spark goes off when I go beyond 250KHz.

Hence, any Ideas how to act further?


Regards

Use one of this.

Teslův transformátor (TC, tesla coil)  http://danyk.wz.cz/

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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« Reply #12011 on: June 15, 2012, 11:17:33 AM »
...With a large secondary capacitor, there will be more electrons in the bottle for a given energy...

http://home.freeuk.net/dunckx/wireless/scotty/scotty.html

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12012 on: June 15, 2012, 12:22:27 PM »
My current secondary coil (bifilar) resonates at approx. 2.4MHz (see screenshot of oscilloscope). To get resonance with spark gap I need high voltage with 2.4MHz (in my understanding). But unfortunately my spark goes off when I go beyond 250KHz.

Hence, any Ideas how to act further?
It's enough if you hit your secondary bifilar coil at every 10th zero-crossing of its natural ringing waveform, e.g. at 240kHz.
A bipolar pumping of the oscillating coil must happen at the zero-crossing its natural bipolar ringing waveform and this means exact frequency synthesis or phase synchronization using e.g.: Window Comparators.
The phase method exhibits automatic frequency tuning.

The secondary bifilar coil can also be hit with a unipolar positive pulse from a spark gap when the natural bipolar ringing waveform is at its negative peak (e.g. every 10th peak).  This also means phase synchronization but is simpler to accomplish because only one voltage comparator is needed.
The phase method also exhibits automatic frequency tuning.

The spark gap's falling slew rate can be increased through magnetic quenching.
A cheap CB Linear Amplifier can also be a powerful source of fast pulses.  It's good up to 27MHz.

P.S.
A spark gap can also act as a voltage comparator when its breakdown voltage is adjusted to be equal to the negative peak of the naturally oscillating waveform of the coil you are trying to resonate.  This method is imprecise and prone to premature firing because the ringing amplitude is decaying, hence this method is unstable.
It can be improved with a dead-time monostable circuit that prevents the firing of the spark-gap more frequently than e.g.: 235kHz.

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« Reply #12013 on: June 15, 2012, 02:25:05 PM »
 Pretty good stuff Verpies.

 One note on the spark gaps electrode shapes. Can shape modify the direction of flow as well? Going from round to pointed might show something interesting.

 That link had some good stuff there. Like this:


 "It seems likely that a combination of these effects is responsible for partial rectification of the excitation applied to spark discharge driven Tesla coils, and that the difference in ground connection from one coil to another is responsible for the variable reports of net dc polarisation of Tesla coils. The exact nature of the ground connection, where the metal meets the soil, will vary tremendously with geology and moisture content and will be very different from one location to another. If this is the true explanation, then it would be expected that the coils showing this effect would also show a significant second harmonic component, since this is to be predicted by Fourier transform theory if rectification is occurring. Interestingly, whilst these polarisation effects have been reported with "quarter wave" coils, they are apparently absent from "half wave" coils.[/font][/size]Whether or not this be the case, it may also prove possible to introduce and control a deliberate net dc offset by installing e.g. a thyratron in the earth lead, by means of which proportional control of the resulting unidirectional pulsed charging current could be effected by the usual means applied to dimmer switches and the like."

 The Magamp!

I was thinking that we could use the basket weave for the bifilar inner coil.. A weave like this but with two wires: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1EoFg7dy4A

 Lets do an experiment and relate the power of the ground loop. Ed Leedskalnin. Ring any bells? PMH? When the ground loop is inductive based it is incredible the power that gets looped. In the case of the inductive loop I think it only separates out the positive and negative through magnetic alignment then forms a magnetic latch that loops onto itself at the place of joining. As long as the coils stay put the lock will continue and hold by the difference that was created by the power added. So the loop powers the whole shebang after the initial forming of the fields.


 Also I wanted to touch again on the megnetising of the gaps. This is to cross polarize the spark. This breaks up the line formed by the discharge into smaller packets of charge. Kinda like this. ------------------------------------------- <Regular discharge: polarized discharge> |/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|. Although the latter should be more compressed or smaller packaged then what I can show with these crude graphics. So the first line shorts then instantly turns to the polarized version this does two very important things. It accelerates the line by contracting the line via conservation of charge rules or even condensing rules. It also increases the frequency of the now compacted line. This can be likened to the old symbol of an electric break down. Z, except turn that on it's side. The zig zag formation is because lines can not just separate. It seems to me that this process injects cross polarized lines into the spark and this is the one that creates the zig zag. The magnets are already flowing as is and just pulls what it needs for balance from the environment, which it does already. So it turns out we can silently pull more lines into our process and increase the response received back in a passive way via conditioning(cross polarizing) the spark gap.

 In the Kapanadze system He gets around the spark issue and just uses it as a safety buildup device to the ground. This is to allow for his tank circuit to build up steam then dump at the rated gap setting. The gaps are a variable setting in a sense of accuracy. So this will always be hard to stabilize. This is why he used it in the exciter coil setup to ground as well. This energizes the ground and sucks the current up into each leg of the bifilar to grounds. Each ground has a preset value based on the exciter voltage and internal solenoid coil with flap voltage. Each one of those is on a separate ground that is excited from opposite ends. The added polarization of the solenoid pulls the ground in one direction because the bifilar crosses the grounds through the solenoid coil's interior. The solenoid coil is the polarizer and the grounds are going in certain directions trough the solenoid coils. The grounds will form an inductive ground loop based from the two different values that each ground has. Once charged up it could run absolutely free based solely on load requirements. Does it have limits.. Well of course but that is based on the value given to each coil. Composition and gauge plus geometry are all factors. Just remember that to intensify you must condense the lines or constrict them.

 We are working with the inductive fields here and reflection, polarization and focus are all relevant variables as well. Learn how to reflect in the right manner and we have a laser like excitation for free. Well except for the initial blast to start the process. But then we could put a kickstart button on the engine or just never shut it off. It will be a steady state engine then that has a max draw but no minimum.

 Using virtual grounds will allow us to tailor the energy as well in the loop. Shape and gain of the antennas will dictate how much one can safely use the virtual grounds with a common energizer ground. Each ground will have a value set to it and the flow will ebb back and forth between the two polarizing grounds. Yes we might have to separate the two polarities into two antennas the base antenna will broadcast the energizing wave and the two smaller polarized antennas will each receive the current it needs automatically from the loops that form. Obviously virtual grounds will have a limit based on the breakdown of the air around each antenna but maybe separating the polarized antennas will help to reduce the loops ionizing side effect. Maybe having them together will create more dynamic interaction of each stream and the direction each is flowing. More experimenting is needed in this area once we get the steady state supply running optimally.

 I think Gray was also trying the tri-element approach. He was literally separating the polarities that way. then devised a way to harness the focuses flows into coils through a discharge to the virtual ground in the center of the rotor. Each terminal will be compared to another and divides accordingly via static induction rules. You could think of it as two drains being forced to flow in one direction or polarity. A loop will form from that flow and start to rev up. How we back tap that loop is the issue. My thoughts are to just induce the heavy radiations off of the loop itself. You could think of it as a choke really and is wholly the reason it doesn't get out of control. With non resonant coupling being the choke or depletion mode we could control the interaction via resonance non resonance adjustment. This could be a very passive thing with a coil and capacitor or just pancake bifilar coils set to reflect inwards. We could also make the pancakes square could we not and bend them around the outside of the main coils as reflectors? What about hexagons or other geometric shapes? What about conical bifilars?

 There are plenty of directions we need to be focusing. We have plenty of guys here that can help with that. We have a lot to learn and catch up to the ones who have had this the whole time.
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« Reply #12014 on: June 15, 2012, 04:25:45 PM »
 I was going to add to the other post but it is kinda getting long.


 A long time ago I paid 15 dollars to have the story of the kid who discovered the electric rocket. It so captavated me because as a child I wanted to build a fantastic personal flying machine. The story goes like this:


 There was a boy who was interested in Telsa's discoveries. He read up on a lot of Tesla and made his circuits but he got to a point where he couldn't devise a way for the perfect capacitor. He wanted to work on the storage side of things so he worked day and night and came up with a strange design. The design was alternating layers of two forms of circles thin on the outside with fat tabs around the ring. He alternated the layers so that each turn of the rings always went one direction. To the right or to the left. He separated each layer with wax paper and hooked them all in parallel for each side of the capacitor. When the cap was pulsed the capacitor jumped off of the table with tremendous force. He decided on the next capacitor to turn it upside down and record the force added to the natural weight of the device. It was the most exotic thing he could imagine. I am assuming he was using the energizing energy from the longitudinal spark pump to energize one plate and cause micro loops to form between the plates. He said the output was puffs of energy like smoke rings. I'm thinking that they stacked up and bounced away from the building field. This causes lift. This field has inertia going around it like the bubble circles that dolphins play with. The inertia is from a loop of bubble and is very pliable but strong in maintaining it's inertia or form from the loop vis surface tension. The loops move with resistance in the backwards direction and with acceleration in the forward direction. A much different kind of physics is at play there. The backward resistance is what causes the forward movement in the case of the electric rocket because the next puff has something to push against..


 Now is this hazardous to life? and can we control the process to make it safer?

 Another note on how Kapandze is doing the Turkey show is like this differential gear of this device:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anke7igxCc&feature=related

 I can think of many ways to make this work for us. Changing the torque from low to high would be greatly taken advantage of since some of these systems utilize the subtle effects to create a difference. So what Kapanadze is doing is adding inertia to his pump and making it pump more torque on the inner coils via self accelerating coils on the outside. Field sizes are used much like gears in that sense. So one pulse is intensified and accelerated and reduced on the reflection back to the inner coil to be collected back into the system and shunted to the load via paralleling the connection and then adding a safety spark gap as an overload shunt.

 If we use the rules of static electricity then providing a positive hv on the bottom of the craft as opposed to the negative on top of the craft we create two positives and should be able to ride a magnetic like cushion and create a polar field withing the craft for gravity to form. It's own gravity field will be formed within the entire ship between the two plates. All we have to do is mirror the kind of flow that is happening on the earth. Our flow is from space to inner core. The inner core is highly positive and we are getting pulled to that polarity. Creating a reflective shield should enable anti gravity no matter what the weight well limited to the ability of the system to shunt that much current from the reflective shield. The lowest resistance wire should be used for this and clever pulsing of the reflector coil needs to be experimented with as well.

 If we look at Tesla's bifilar pancake coil we will notice that on one side the positive is the outer conductor on top and the bottom conductor is negative. if you take two coils and flip them so the negative overlaps the positive what would happen? would it store more voltage between the  inverse windings?
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