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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 11922012 times)

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16335 on: March 11, 2013, 01:45:24 PM »
This all relates back to the container under water example that Tesla proposed. And it is exactly how TK is getting the results he is getting.
I have seen yet not one single drawing of a (so called) Kapanadze circuit mentioning the word »shielding«. This is very odd in the light of Tesla's statement: »[...] and that, by some means or other, in this enclosure a medium were maintained which would have little energy, and that on the outer side of the same there would be the ordinary ambient medium with much energy.« (The Problem of Increasing Human Energy) Now replace the term »enclosure« with »shielding« and the term »medium« with »earth's electric field«. Then the enclosure would be a Faraday cage with no electric field inside (little energy) but with an ordinary electric field outside (much energy).

So when in the Faraday cage the electric field is zero then how much is (or should be) the electric field outside? Actually it doesn't matter as long as it is non-zero and thereby inexhaustible. In theory, if there were a 1.5V battery which would be inexhaustible (maintaining 1.5V under all circumstances) then the whole world could be powered with that battery.

And practically that means, all Kapanadze diagrams not comprising a (grounded) Faraday cage are either incomplete or just plain wrong (including the TK patents).

Interesting thing in TKvid that they used salt water for the earthed radiator and in one of his comments he says that the generator will work without earthing including a small circuit.
Tesla's car worked without it. Although a grounded Faraday cage should be more efficient.

»If the cage is grounded, the excess charges will go to the ground instead of the outer face, so the inner face and the inner charge will cancel each other out and the rest of the cage will retain a neutral charge.«

There we have it: Our most wanted ground current. :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16336 on: March 11, 2013, 02:25:02 PM »
I have seen yet not one single drawing of a (so called) Kapanadze circuit mentioning the word »shielding«. This is very odd in the light of Tesla's statement: »[...] and that, by some means or other, in this enclosure a medium were maintained which would have little energy, and that on the outer side of the same there would be the ordinary ambient medium with much energy.« (The Problem of Increasing Human Energy) Now replace the term »enclosure« with »shielding« and the term »medium« with »earth's electric field«. Then the enclosure would be a Faraday cage with no electric field inside (little energy) but with an ordinary electric field outside (much energy).

So when in the Faraday cage the electric field is zero then how much is (or should be) the electric field outside? Actually it doesn't matter as long as it is non-zero and thereby inexhaustible. In theory, if there were a 1.5V battery which would be inexhaustible (maintaining 1.5V under all circumstances) then the whole world could be powered with that battery.

And practically that means, all Kapanadze diagrams not comprising a (grounded) Faraday cage are either incomplete or just plain wrong (including the TK patents).
Tesla's car worked without it. Although a grounded Faraday cage should be more efficient.

»If the cage is grounded, the excess charges will go to the ground instead of the outer face, so the inner face and the inner charge will cancel each other out and the rest of the cage will retain a neutral charge.«

There we have it: Our most wanted ground current. :)


 Well any closed metal container is a faraday cage. In the case of the Tesla roadster the box or the car could be considered a faraday cage. The cage or sink is just a means of creating a vacuum. You are right about the electric field of the earth. This could be considered a pressure and the shielded space is the vacuum. In no way can the charge from the inner space of the container get to the outer space, the static rules forbid it and in practice this is exactly what happens. The problem is how do we collect the charges from the cage and use them in our devices. Obviously there is a way to do this. Maybe TK used the Leyden jar concept to secure the vacuum and still have access to the charges that get sucked into the cage? There is still a lot of stuff we don't know for sure about this method.


 Yes TK's patents are not full, they only develop the concept and not the actual setup. This is the way of many many inventors to not let the secret out and still secure rights to the idea.


 In the case of the roadster of Tesla, there seems to be a way to collect even more free charges from the air  via an air interface (antennas) and if he used a Leyden jar as the vacuum then he didn't need to use the earth ground but this limits the amount of vacuum that can suck the charges into the system.


 Only experimentation will find out these techniques. That's my aim when I start my lab.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16337 on: March 11, 2013, 05:11:22 PM »
   I did acquire some un expected results once hitting an iron wire with 30,000 kv from a flyback.  The iron wire was rusty.  What may be explained as an ion wind insued between ground and the pulsed iron coil.  Some coronal effects were being issued from either end of the coil and appeared to be in some sort of relationship as the brushes bent towards each other.  Anyway the wind was cold.  You could cup your hand and bottle the cold and feel it pouring out around the edges of my palm. .    Perhaps the intense electric field inhibits molecular vibrations.  The field surrounding this sees this as a no-energy zone and radiates inward toward it so as to comply with the laws of entrophy. Another shielding experiment was with placing a piece of magnet wire in a microwave and a drop of water.   The microwave lit up like a quartz halogen bulb as long as you had a drop of water near the piece of wire stuck in some cork.  Once the end of the wire started to heat and burn off the enamel coating the whole deal shut down.  It would not work at all with a paper clip or uninsulated wire.
   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16338 on: March 11, 2013, 09:20:40 PM »
Well, cold electricity is one of the big clues that you are generating radiant energy. The single most unobserved clue about the aquarium 2 is that the box was inert. No heat, no cold; so TK has balanced the cold electricity of radiant energy with the heat from some of his electrical components. TK also uses extensive shielding on ONE HALF of his circuitry. He also mentions Melnychenko. Well, we all thought he was referring to Melnychenko's transformers. I am beginning to see something else. Melnychenko has a patent in which he claims that transmitted energy picks up additional energy in transit. He postulates a magnatron type of device with an internal transmitter/receiver circuit. Maybe the coil/foil capacitors in aquarium 1 are aerial receivers. This is beginning to relate to the joule ringer crossover circuit with Kapanadze like effects.
And yes, inventors try to protect their secrets. Kapanadze told me as much. He said he was going to tell the Turks the secret then became suspicious of their motives. He was shocked when I told him that he had no patent rights but that the nominee had cheated him. The Turks did cheat him after all. So his gut reaction was the right one in that case.
I had to explain to him that there are many cases of inventors being named on patents who have no rights to the product. i.e. when inventors work for a large corporation such as Google or Apple, this is the norm.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16339 on: March 12, 2013, 01:58:23 AM »
Well, cold electricity is one of the big clues that you are generating radiant energy. The single most unobserved clue about the aquarium 2 is that the box was inert. No heat, no cold; so TK has balanced the cold electricity of radiant energy with the heat from some of his electrical components. TK also uses extensive shielding on ONE HALF of his circuitry. He also mentions Melychenko. Well, we all thought he was referring to Melnychenko's transformers. I am beginning to see something else. Melnychenko has a patent in which he claims that transmitted energy picks up additional energy in transit. He postulates a magnatron type of device with an internal transmitter/receiver circuit. Maybe the coil/foil capacitors in aquarium 1 are aerial receivers. This is beginning to relate to the joule ringer crossover circuit with Kapanadze like effects.
And yes, inventers try to protect their secrets. Kapanadze told me as much. He said he was going to tell the Turks the secret then became suspicious of their motives. He was shocked when I told him that he had no patent rights but that the nominee had cheated him. The Turks did cheat him after all. So his gut reaction was the right one in that case.
I had to explain to him that there are many cases of inventors being named on patents who have no rights to the product. i.e. when inventors work for a large corporation such as Google or Apple, this is the norm.


 Well you are absolutely right about cold electricity. It wants to balance with the surrounding charges we call heat and suck them up in transit. This is the reason for Tesla's use of an antenna on the back of the. Car and two smaller antennas on the box. The theory is that pure voltage sets up a pathway that charges get sucked into and fulfill the balancing nature of the natural network. These charges are in the form of heat and are all around us. Once on the pathway they can be condensed into a static chamber and turned into a magnetic field which can induce a great amount of current in a secondary. In Tesla's case this chamber was in the motor itself which needed a fan to be mounted on the front of the motor to cool it from all the heat he was extracting from the electric stream between the 3 antennas.


 Somehow TK is doing the same without the motor, which is unusual but not impossible.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16340 on: March 12, 2013, 03:00:26 AM »
This is beginning to relate to the joule ringer crossover circuit with Kapanadze like effects.
Then put a joule ringer in a Faraday cage and see what happens. The strange thing is I can't remember having seen yet any OU setup that uses a Faraday cage, neither on YouTube nor elsewhere. But thinking twice this is kinda logic, because it is somewhat obstructive putting an electronic circuit into a cage while experimenting with it, so no one does it. ::)

I had to explain to him that there are many cases of inventors being named on patents who have no rights to the product. i.e. when inventors work for a large corporation such as Google or Apple, this is the norm.
Especially is this the norm when an invention is a Tesla invention and was already in use more than 80 years ago.

Yes TK's patents are not full, they only develop the concept and not the actual setup. This is the way of many many inventors to not let the secret out and still secure rights to the idea.
And that's why one and the same invention is invented over and over again, because of the secrecy. Like that of T. H. Moray, which almost for sure worked on the same basic principle the Kapanadze device works on.

This is almost like the principle of flight (also so simple you'll laugh). It is anything but obvious that something thin as air can support something heavy like a machine made of metal, but as it seems it works. So it is even less obvious that something faint like an invisible electric field can power a machine made of heavy steel, but as it seems it works also.

Now maybe I should start experimenting again ... so I can re-invent the Tesla and Moray devices one more time. ;)

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« Reply #16341 on: March 12, 2013, 03:47:55 AM »
I've posted a feature page about this at http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Kapagen

I also created this email discussion list  to facilitate this process:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kapagen/
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16342 on: March 12, 2013, 04:50:52 AM »
RE Moray etc. At last we all seem to be on message. Notice that the name Bearden appears in the Moray article. So  those who have dismissed him should think  again. Bearden has a lot of information about Tesla's radiant energy and the knowledge is well worth assimilating.
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16343 on: March 12, 2013, 01:46:50 PM »
The thing is that the circuit Moray is showing is closed too :( 
Maybe it's true that cold electricity circuits have to be closed to acquire power :-\
I was thinking regarding the aquarium circuit.
Is there something regarding ozone from the sparkgap? Does ozone effect circuits? Just asking.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16344 on: March 12, 2013, 04:48:24 PM »
can anyone tell me if Tariel Kapanadze use ferrite rod/ring in his device?
i think the key is in tesla patents. just read.
i keep my mind on magnifing transmiter.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16345 on: March 12, 2013, 11:12:34 PM »
Hi for All

Did someone test/experiments ferrofluid cored on kapa. gen. (except S. Meyer)?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16346 on: March 13, 2013, 01:39:40 AM »
Hi for All

Did someone test/experiments ferrofluid cored on kapa. gen. (except S. Meyer)?


 Actually I suggested using a ferric power or shavings in the copper tube element to separate the magnetic field from the electric field. This in my experience is a way to make the electric field stronger and attract more free charges towards the vacuum of the ground cable in the 2004-2005 videos. But it was a suggestion that I plan on doing myself but thought others might be interested in trying if they wanted.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16347 on: March 13, 2013, 10:02:18 AM »

 Actually I suggested using a ferric power or shavings in the copper tube element to separate the magnetic field from the electric field. This in my experience is a way to make the electric field stronger and attract more free charges towards the vacuum of the ground cable in the 2004-2005 videos. But it was a suggestion that I plan on doing myself but thought others might be interested in trying if they wanted.

Hi Jbignes5

I mean is it meaning this way, experienting with ferrofluid?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16348 on: March 13, 2013, 06:54:10 PM »
    As explained to me the magnetic field is created by a flow of virtual particles that creates charge.  Move an electron change the flow of virtual particles creating the negative charge carried by the electron.  As the electron moves through an electric field it displaces charges in that field.  The flow of virtual particles that was "charging" the vacuum is altered.  We see this as a magnetic field distortion due to the charge carrier moving.  This allows for what appears as effects at afar  (e.g. change in magnetic field around a transformer secondary or the movement of a permanent magnet when we move another permanent magnet)  This is why I truly believe there are no overunity magnet motors or generators or transformer arrangements etc.  It takes energy to move charged mass. This is why I continually come back to the line of reasoning that if electrons are moving within their orbitals they represent a scource of potential energy.  The flow of virtual particles in a neutral atom or molecule is such that the electrons assemble at discrete distances and vectors relative to the neucleus.  The atom can move through an electric field with very little effect because the virtual particle flow is mostly balanced.  Take this same atom moving through an electric field less an electron.  The ion now creates a magnetic disturbance.  Take 10to the 23 or 1 mole of atoms that was moving due to some force or other and ionize them within a created electric field and you get accelerated electrons moving towards the anode  FIRST.  They are way easier to accelerate than the neucleus which is magnitudes more massive than the electrons.  This results in a large current pulse of short duration.  In order to transform this current pulse we need to smooth it somehow.  This is what Tesla knew how to do.  This is where resonance comes into play.  Imagine two points one charged positive the other negative approaching each other.  What happens?  The air is first ionized then a spark flows through the plasma and you discharge the power supply capacitor.  Now what happens if you just move the contacts closer together without a plasma bridging the gap?  Can't you capacitively couple the charge state of one contact into the secondary?  Weren't some of the first voltmeters 2 gold leafs suspended on a string inside a bottle.  Would they not move when someone "grounded" holding a glass rod moved the glass rod near the gold leaf contact?  What moved the electrometer?

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« Reply #16349 on: March 13, 2013, 07:45:02 PM »

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