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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 11921986 times)

Offline itsu

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13980 on: September 17, 2012, 12:48:04 PM »

I thought that was the transformer for Tr1; the text in the same block relates to the KT926  (it's on the overall schematic)....


I may be way off, but 7mm is a lot smaller than that toroid which is as wide as two pots .... (although I might by the turn ratio of 3 and 70)

Yes d3x0r, you are right,  forget about the mentioned toroid.  It would be more like 4cm od, but the windings/turns could be accurate.

I have editted the original post to read toroid probably 4cm od.

By the way, i found the missing diagram, its on this webside:
http://realstrannik.ru/media/kunena/attachments/1226/dally1.GIF

The Russian text in the middle is to my understanding the data on the TP

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13981 on: September 17, 2012, 01:30:53 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13982 on: September 17, 2012, 03:11:16 PM »
@verpies, if you look at the schematic shown above the B+ rails are at 150v dc, the pulsing circuit uses a 2:1 step up transformer which feeds the coax transmission line, thus the output would be around 500V

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13982 on: September 17, 2012, 03:11:16 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13983 on: September 17, 2012, 03:24:58 PM »
I am writing about the reality of creating 10kV sub-nanosecond pulses with transformers, transistors, diodes, spark-gaps, thyratrons, sprytrons, krytrons, etc...

My browser is set to filter-out jbignes' posts.
Last time I checked, this thread was preoccupied with Dally's device and Itsu's replication of it.
The aforementioned device is using sub-nanosecond pulses.


 You know I couldn't care less what you have your browser set to. The simple fact of the matter is your a school taught magnetics man. You will never find overunity in the magnetic field. Period. How many times do you have to see this to believe it? Over and over they slowly push us guys to try the magnetic portion knowing full well it is very lossy and could never facilitate overunity. But on the other hand those who have stayed away from magnetic field on the whole show unity+.


 This is the problem. Don't let people like verpies push you in the wrong direction. Magnetics will never get you there. In fact Tesla talked about that specifically. It was only in the electric field is there a possibility of finding what we seek. Yes, you can have magentics in the system but it must be contained and in that process can in fact generate more electric field in the process. Learning how to do this without listening to these preachers of the magnetic realm is the hardest part.


 I'm not saying verpies is not well versed in the field he chooses (magnetic), what I am saying is that it has been beaten to death and will never show overunity. On the other hand very few are well versed in the electric field. It was and is still shunned and no one seems to get it really. We need to start learning about this electric field. Ignoring it's capabilities and making it a novelty has hidden it's secrets for far too long.


 As to the capabilities of higher voltages switching faster I do believe in that 100%. I have seen it in all transistors without the associated heating problems as well. When you take the heavy current out of the equation, it of course can and will switch faster.


 And I do not think this is outside of the scope of what TK did. The reason no one can replicate his method is simply for the fact that they are approaching it from the wrong field and will not look at it from the conversion of the electric field to the magnetic. It is a transformer and should be applied as such. Tesla called his motor a converter. This wasn't because it converted into motion. It was because it converted one field into another. In that conversion it grew in multiples because there is a vast more of the electric field in the background then there is of the magnetic field. Tesla's method was to convert inside of the unit on the fly so to speak so that the losses were very small. Even when talking about his method he was quoted to say that he used 95% electric field and 5% was wasted magnetic field. Now why is that?


 This was his whole debate as well on disproving Hertzian waves.


 [size=78%]http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm[/size]


 This link talks about how hertzian waves are a fallacy. Now why would Tesla call it like that? He never believed that magnetic waves had anything to do with transmissions in communications and that the hertz system was mostly lossy and a waste of energy. He knew the electric field had way more reach and as little of it that the hertz system had it was the main contributor to the capability of distance in the hertz system.


 We need to start listening to the one person who knew more about the electric field then any other human being. We need to learn what Tesla learned and further his experiments to get a better understanding of the principles of that method. Almost all system that have shown unity+ are based on the electric field. Look at Bedini, Don Smith, Dr. Stiffler and the Slayer exciter plus many many others who have figured this out and used it in systems to gain more then they inputted.


 Ignore me if you will but approaching this in a magnetic sense will get you no where at all.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13984 on: September 17, 2012, 03:53:45 PM »
Yes d3x0r, you are right,  forget about the mentioned toroid.  It would be more like 4cm od, but the windings/turns could be accurate.

I have editted the original post to read toroid probably 4cm od.

By the way, i found the missing diagram, its on this webside:
http://realstrannik.ru/media/kunena/attachments/1226/dally1.GIF

The Russian text in the middle is to my understanding the data on the TP

Itsu

Hello Itsu!

This is the schematic that I was looking for... Ask for it on your youtube channel :) Thanks for sharing and good luck from now on!
I will beghin tests myself but not wight now, because I don`t have the time, but sun  ;D

Regads!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13985 on: September 17, 2012, 04:15:07 PM »
Look at Bedini, Don Smith, Dr. Stiffler and the Slayer exciter plus many many others who have figured this out and used it in systems to gain more then they inputted.
Just asking: are there any demonstration videos showing a self-sustaining device on the principle of Bedini, Don Smith, Dr. Stiffler or the Slayer exciter? If not, then I will stick with Kapanadze.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13986 on: September 17, 2012, 04:30:09 PM »
Yes d3x0r, you are right,  forget about the mentioned toroid.  It would be more like 4cm od, but the windings/turns could be accurate.

I have editted the original post to read toroid probably 4cm od.

By the way, i found the missing diagram, its on this webside:
http://realstrannik.ru/media/kunena/attachments/1226/dally1.GIF

The Russian text in the middle is to my understanding the data on the TP

Itsu


Itsu,

The diagram you refer to above shows an iron cored transformer (solid line) for TP and a ferrite cored pulse transformer TR1 (dotted line). The TP transformer looks larger than 4cm dia to me, so could this be a small 50Hz iron cored transformer stripped-down and re-wound or just a mistake on the transformer symbol?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13987 on: September 17, 2012, 05:05:24 PM »
Just asking: are there any demonstration videos showing a self-sustaining device on the principle of Bedini, Don Smith, Dr. Stiffler or the Slayer exciter? If not, then I will stick with Kapanadze.

Regards


 True those examples only showed unity. They were all of the principle of using sharp high voltage spikes to coax the energy back into their devices. The slayer exciter showed the field effects of such a high voltage field and how to extract energy from it. Each example has unique distinct aspects that they focused on. Kapandze is the exception but as everyone is flinging accusations around instead of really replicating it and looking at the devices honestly they instead choose to fling fraud claims which some of this group has become very astute at.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13988 on: September 17, 2012, 05:07:45 PM »
Itsu,

The diagram you refer to above shows an iron cored transformer (solid line) for TP and a ferrite cored pulse transformer TR1 (dotted line). The TP transformer looks larger than 4cm dia to me, so could this be a small 50Hz iron cored transformer stripped-down and re-wound or just a mistake on the transformer symbol?

Hoppy


Hoppy,

the line in the middle of the drawing (Трансформатор на феррите от Бп ATX)  translate via google into: Ferrite transformer from the PSU ATX

So i guess its a mistake on the transformer symbol and it really is a ferrite based transformer.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13989 on: September 17, 2012, 05:18:54 PM »

Hoppy,

the line in the middle of the drawing (Трансформатор на феррите от Бп ATX)  translate via google into: Ferrite transformer from the PSU ATX

So i guess its a mistake on the transformer symbol and it really is a ferrite based transformer.

Regards Itsu

Thanks Itsu.

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13990 on: September 17, 2012, 05:42:20 PM »
    Tesla was working with the electric potential vector.  Hertz was working with the electric field.  The electric field strength is inversely proportional to the distance from the electron or proton.  The vector potential does not suffer from any losses due to distance.  The magnetic field is the flow of virtual particles that create the polarization of charged mass.  When charged mass moves the virtual particle FLOW must be altered.  This flow is resisted by all flows of virtual particles supporting charged mass throughout the Universe.   When an electron moves it of course alters the magnetic flow.  When an electron is at rest what we see is a permanent magnetic field.  When copper is frozen what appears is a magnetic field forming around the conductor.  In a room temperature conductor the electrons are in constant random motion.  When these constant random motions become ordered low and behold a predictable magnetic field arises.

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« Reply #13991 on: September 17, 2012, 05:53:17 PM »

 True those examples only showed unity. They were all of the principle of using sharp high voltage spikes to coax the energy back into their devices. The slayer exciter showed the field effects of such a high voltage field and how to extract energy from it. Each example has unique distinct aspects that they focused on. Kapandze is the exception but as everyone is flinging accusations around instead of really replicating it and looking at the devices honestly they instead choose to fling fraud claims which some of this group has become very astute at.

As one of those on this group that has flung an accusation of fraud on the Kapandze device, I am also a person that tries to replicate and am indeed so doing with the Russian Daly device. Given that there is very little to base a replication on with the Kapandze device and that no hard data is available for it, it is little wonder why it has been labelled as a likely fraud. I certainly do not have the time or money to attempt replications of devices based on sparse information and will always first consider the likelihood of fraud until decent build information etc., is forthcoming. IMO, the Kapandze motor generators are likely frauds in that the second and third devices are probably powered from a concealed motor underneath that belt couples to the main axle within one of the bearing block housings. The first motor shows signs of there being an electrical contact on each disc which could pick power up from concealed battery. Having made this assessment, its difficult for me not to think that trickery could have been applied to the TK solid state devices.

Just because a few people look first at possible methods of fraud, it does not follow that those people are necessarily trying to put down all FE claims. I for one have the same passion as others on this forum for finding a means of freeing the world from the oil barons, I just approach FE claims investigation in a different manner

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13992 on: September 17, 2012, 11:51:45 PM »
http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/edward_lee/post237839624/

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Внутреннее устройство, хотел написать трансформатора, но как то назвать трансформатором сложно.
1 фото - общий вид
2-фото -48 витков
3-фото -59 витков
4-фото -66 витков
5-фото -70 витков
Итого: верхняя обмотка 83 витка.
Под ней: коаксиал - 21 виток RG50U.(фото 7, 8)
Под коаксиалом 159 витков провода 0,85 мм.(фото 9,10)
Далее 475 витков провода 0,33 (фото 11,12,13,14)
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Coil:
The internal device, wanted to say it is transformer but it is hard to name it as transfomer.
1 photo - general view
2 photo - 48 turns
3 photo - 59 turns
4 photo - 66 turns
5 photo - 70 turns
Total: top coil 83 turns
Under it: coax cable - 21 turns RG50U (photo 7,8)  (translation addition: 50 Ohm computer network cable)
Under coax cable: 159 turns coil, the wire diameter 0,85mm (photo 9, 10)
Next: 475 turns coil, wire diameter 0,33mm (photo 11,12,13,14)
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Tune with Earth ground connection attached.
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So all details now, good luck in replication!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13993 on: September 18, 2012, 12:43:32 AM »
Just because a few people look first at possible methods of fraud, it does not follow that those people are necessarily trying to put down all FE claims. I for one have the same passion as others on this forum for finding a means of freeing the world from the oil barons, I just approach FE claims investigation in a different manner
I agree, it is just due diligence.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13994 on: September 18, 2012, 12:48:37 AM »
@verpies, if you look at the schematic shown above the B+ rails are at 150v dc, the pulsing circuit uses a 2:1 step up transformer which feeds the coax transmission line, thus the output would be around 500V
I did not notice that 150V rail. Thanks.

Did you mean an air-core 2:1 step-up transformer?   ...or some kind of voltage step-up transformer that does not rely on varying magnetic flux in its ferrimagnetic core?
I do not know of any ferrites that can magnetize and demagnetize in 1ns.  (reciprocally that is 1GHz operating frequency). For example see this or this or this.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2012, 02:06:27 AM by verpies »

 

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