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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13519171 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15195 on: December 04, 2012, 08:44:58 AM »
Gift from Inogda. He is our TPU guy !!
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Thanks for those great educational aids.

However, there is something wrong with those GIFs.
Only the TheSwitchAnalogy.gif animates.
The larger GIFs, for example the The_Inductor.gif, do not animate even in TotalCommander viewer after being downloaded.

Please put these GIF files into a ZIP or RAR archive, because this forum's software is willfully trimming the bigger images.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15196 on: December 04, 2012, 12:46:36 PM »
@idzaza, Put your secondary over top and slide steel sheet between coils pull out the plate this get circuit going.You need a good load on your secondary 1 to2KW.
I use the pancake coil from defunct hob, you will soon have plenty of those I am on my 15th. When the hob fires up you can lower the setting to about 1KW and still runs the same. Difficult to feed back as frequency only runs heaters or lots of bulbs,voltage about 100 but high amps, melts std crocodile leads.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15197 on: December 04, 2012, 02:50:50 PM »
@idzaza, Put your secondary over top and slide steel sheet between coils pull out the plate this get circuit going.You need a good load on your secondary 1 to2KW.
I use the pancake coil from defunct hob, you will soon have plenty of those I am on my 15th. When the hob fires up you can lower the setting to about 1KW and still runs the same. Difficult to feed back as frequency only runs heaters or lots of bulbs,voltage about 100 but high amps, melts std crocodile leads.

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Thank you. I did that experiment. I used heater, using 5.76 amp from the mains. for the same heat energy from induction heater it is using the same amps, the bulbs get bright, the electric heater is shining, but nothing about saving energy, very disappointed. Do not trust digital volt meter use the amp reader. It did not turn motor, or neither my bosh battery charger did not work nor TV. So, here we are Kapanadze's secret is still unknown. I have Baumatic Induction 4 ring hob cooker. Main spec
1 x 2.00 kW induction zone with booster (3.0 kW), Ø 180 mm
§ 1 x 2.00 kW induction zone , Ø 180 mm
§ 2 x 1.50 kW induction zones , Ø 180 mm
I have two heaters so I can compare. for the same energy it was taking (shining heat) the same amount of amps including or excluding which ever you want to call is right. 1.43 amp taking by the induction hob without the load, in stand by is less but when fires up and remove load it works for 4-5 seconds at that time it takes 1.43 amps. Oh yah if you do not have enough volts the bulb will not use much amps but you think it is fully bright. I got that hob from the hotel, was on Gumtree.com, it is in good condition like new, got for just 40 pounds and can fit at home if want to so wont worry about it much. I got 5 ring induction cooker as a spare two of them from ebay for 10 pounds for both. So I removed the coil and used the coil on the top of each other. even removed the ceramic cover so to put directly the coils on the top of each other. By decreasing the level of power frequency you are decreasing the voltage too so what is the point? the bulbs still shine but not fully bright, cattle takes longer to boil the water. Now, do I have a wrong induction cooker? This is the one I bought http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/second-hand-induction-hobs-for-sale--1-year-old--50-only-brand-new-they-cost-over-300/1004087542 As wrote I got Baumatic. So far nothing works for me. if you have anything interesting please share with us. I know that I know nothing yet about Kapanadze's device. How the hell he gets so many amps from tiny 9 volts battery?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15197 on: December 04, 2012, 02:50:50 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15198 on: December 04, 2012, 03:18:39 PM »
@idzaza, sounds as if you have been playing as I have. Very difficult to work out the output, fairly easy to work input with watt meter.Only going by brightness comparison for out . The most amazing thing I found was that when I unwind the pancake and form it around a 45mm tube the coil is only tiny just over 3 inches long using the 10 metres of litz wire and this will light a 3kw industrial fire and half a dozen 100w bulbs no problem. My hob is single from Maplins £35 new, once the internal fuse blows then only the coil and a few caps are salvageable . The wattage shown by hob is not accurate,they run at 950watts when showing 600 watts. Will keep in touch.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15199 on: December 04, 2012, 04:15:18 PM »
What findings do we have so far:

1) 12V input can generate up to 650V output simply by opening a switch which is connected to an iron core transformer.

2) A (DC) current can flow (to/from ground) without a closed circuit provided that the voltage (potential difference) is high enough.

3) The Kapanadze device can generate a high current to ground without a return path (no closed circuit).

Therefore what do we need?

Something that can generate high voltage at 50Hz (TK talks about 50Hz spark) by means of an iron core transformer or choke. The most promising candidate for this would be something like a Trailing Edge Dimmer.

»[...] trailing edge dimmers must never be used with iron core transformers [...].« ... is that so? ::)

»Back-EMF is generated in any inductive load, because the inductor is an energy storage (reactive) component.«

»[...] even a small current becomes a very high voltage. This effect is seen regularly, but is commonly dissipated as a small arc across the switch contacts. Such arcs are harmless if they only occur a few times a day, but if repeated 100 or 120 times a second the average power becomes significant.«


The average power becomes significant? Interesting! Then perhaps a good idea would be to do something useful with this power.

Now, although the two parts on the heat sinks of the Kapanadze device could be transistors as well as thyristors as well as triacs as well as diodes, the parts on the heat sinks of the Stepanov (single phase) device are most likely thyristors. But thyristors cannot be switched off easily at the peak of the sine wave.

So what's the link I'm missing here?

And BTW the diode bridge (four diodes) in the diagram (Figure 7) of the trailing edge dimmer looks interesting. Although the lamp runs at 50Hz AC the connected transistor switches just pulsing DC at 100Hz. If I would know for sure that the Kapanadze diode bridge is indeed not a diode bridge ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15199 on: December 04, 2012, 04:15:18 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15200 on: December 04, 2012, 04:41:45 PM »
What findings do we have so far:

1) 12V input can generate up to 650V output simply by opening a switch which is connected to an iron core transformer.

2) A (DC) current can flow (to/from ground) without a closed circuit provided that the voltage (potential difference) is high enough.

3) The Kapanadze device can generate a high current to ground without a return path (no closed circuit).

Therefore what do we need?


The reading on the clamp meter was very likely misleading if the current was not sinusoidal at mains frequency, as has been pointed out and discussed earlier .

DC current cannot flow to/from ground without a return path, so therefore a high current cannot pass to ground without a return path.

More thinking is needed as to how TK provides a return path.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15201 on: December 04, 2012, 05:05:31 PM »
Gift from Inogda. He is our TPU guy !!

ANIMATED GIFS !! WATCH IN TOTAL COMMANDER PIC VIEWER !!

    I particularly like the inductance one.  If you place the flywheeled turbine with 2 elevated resevoirs and start with one full and the other empty you have yourself a resonant circuit.  Without the turbine if we have one resevoir filled and the other empty (capacitor charged state) a switch and a capillary section of pipe (resistor) this would result in a simple discharge of the cap.  Water would flow through the capillary section until the water in both elevated resevoirs were at equal heights.  Take the same sceanario and add the turbine  (with attached flywheel). Open valve.  At first very little water flows.  You could actually open and close the valve so fast no water flows.  The water flow is totally impeded.  Given time the water starts to flow and accelerate the flywheel.  The water level in the two tanks reaches zero differential.  Then the majic.  The water now gets pumped from the original high level resevoir  until the exact opposite conditions exist we started with.  The water is empty in the feed resevoir and full in the collector resevoir.  The flow now reverses and continues oscillating back and forth until the resistance of the pipe to the flow brings the system to rest with both resevoirs at the same level.  The advantage of this system is that we can easily add water to the tank that is near empty and take it out at the resevoir that is filling.  Could this be Tesla's tank in a lake energy sink scheme?  How empty does the resevoir have to be before water flows into it from the ambient?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15202 on: December 04, 2012, 05:15:36 PM »
The reading on the clamp meter was very likely misleading if the current was not sinusoidal at mains frequency, as has been pointed out and discussed earlier .
5000W divided by 220V equals 22.73A, the reading shows 22.9A, so it seems to be the correct value.

DC current cannot flow to/from ground without a return path, so therefore a high current cannot pass to ground without a return path.
It can. I have checked this out by means of a charged picture tube and my fingers a few times already. So I know fore sure.

More thinking is needed as to how TK provides a return path.
Changing the polarity of the high voltage provides the return path. In other words, the electrons are vibrating at 50Hz to and from the ground connection.

I think if someone holds the TK device in his bare hands and then the ground connection fails while it is running, he would get surely a nasty electric shock.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15203 on: December 04, 2012, 06:23:49 PM »

Changing the polarity of the high voltage provides the return path. In other words, the electrons are vibrating at 50Hz to and from the ground connection.


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This is interesting. Can you please draw out this concept showing the source of energy and switching arrangement?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15204 on: December 04, 2012, 07:04:04 PM »
@idzaza, sounds as if you have been playing as I have. Very difficult to work out the output, fairly easy to work input with watt meter.Only going by brightness comparison for out . The most amazing thing I found was that when I unwind the pancake and form it around a 45mm tube the coil is only tiny just over 3 inches long using the 10 metres of litz wire and this will light a 3kw industrial fire and half a dozen 100w bulbs no problem. My hob is single from Maplins £35 new, once the internal fuse blows then only the coil and a few caps are salvageable . The wattage shown by hob is not accurate,they run at 950watts when showing 600 watts. Will keep in touch.
Regards
Keith
Ok, what you are saying is that I unwind the wire the one I used as a secondary right? then I wind it on the 45 mm tube and before that I need a primary wire like u say 3 inches long about 10 meter something thin wire, I can do that, but could you tell us if you had any extra net energy? it can happen that you get 3 4 kilowatts of power but still using 3 kilowatts of energy from mains.
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Zaza

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15205 on: December 04, 2012, 07:36:01 PM »
@Ltbolo and all.
That is exactly what I do suspect.And refrigeration system example is a macro-world equivalent.
Please see William Barbat US Patent Application # 2007/0007844
http://www.rexresearch.com/barbat/barbat.htm
Pulsed coil radially expell what he states "inductive photons", what I do believe are electrons.That acceleration changes inertial mass of electron.Ballistic electron (not bound in metal lattice) changes: shape,mass and do exchange energy with the surrounding space- like refrigeration gas when changing its state from liquid to gas and back to liquid. A typical heat pump is OU device, the only difference is that we exactly know from where energy is taken- surrounding ambient air.
Anyway, I think there are a few ways to get OU:
1. Rotating magnetic field along conductor, like in typical 3 phase el. motor, the only difference is that B vector change is in the same direction as it moves. Pulsing 3 coils, overlapped, with 120 deg shifted signals circumferently along core made from another conductor.This is analogy to "squeezing electrons like water in the garden hose".
2. Feeding multiple harmonic frequencies to the piece of wire.Frequencies need to be choosen to create standing waves only.Standing waves "feeds themselves" and superposition of this setup gives travelling "kick" of large amplitude.Harness that "kick". Nice example was provided by Forest, see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMXlzCX5gio&feature=related
3.Utilizing phase change of electron ( Barbat way), when electron "jumps" from bound state in metal lattice to "free space"- something happens, they do exchange energy with enviroment ;-)
I have some more in my mind, but for now is enough.
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very interesting note

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15205 on: December 04, 2012, 07:36:01 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15206 on: December 04, 2012, 09:06:10 PM »
yes , interesting note ... we will find out that it's all about inertia and tapping gravity which is really the same source of energy as magnetic field.... sparks is also right about Tesla sink experiment related to RCL circuit
the final answer is reactive power, it is something which occur when inertial is changed ....

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15207 on: December 05, 2012, 12:03:25 PM »

I particularly like the inductance one.  If you place the flywheeled turbine with 2 elevated resevoirs and start with one full and the other empty you have yourself a resonant circuit.  Without the turbine if we have one resevoir filled and the other empty (capacitor charged state) a switch and a capillary section of pipe (resistor) this would result in a simple discharge of the cap.  Water would flow through the capillary section until the water in both elevated resevoirs were at equal heights.  Take the same sceanario and add the turbine  (with attached flywheel). Open valve.  At first very little water flows.  You could actually open and close the valve so fast no water flows.  The water flow is totally impeded.  Given time the water starts to flow and accelerate the flywheel.  The water level in the two tanks reaches zero differential.  Then the majic.  The water now gets pumped from the original high level resevoir  until the exact opposite conditions exist we started with.  The water is empty in the feed resevoir and full in the collector resevoir.  The flow now reverses and continues oscillating back and forth until the resistance of the pipe to the flow brings the system to rest with both resevoirs at the same level.  The advantage of this system is that we can easily add water to the tank that is near empty and take it out at the resevoir that is filling.  Could this be Tesla's tank in a lake energy sink scheme?  How empty does the resevoir have to be before water flows into it from the ambient?

Hi sparks,

Are you able to see all the GIFS animated then? Like verpies, I am only able to see the switch analogy animated even with Windows Commander.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15208 on: December 05, 2012, 01:29:22 PM »
@idzaza, unwind pancake and wrap around tube feed from hob as primary then wind another 1 or 2 as secondarys again use wire from pancakes. The circuit tends to fire up straight away due to better impedance match. Can not say OU due to no way to measure output, but circuit is very lively and good for moral. Usually I end up overloading and blowing up hob then start over. I now know why it takes people years to get anywhere.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15209 on: December 06, 2012, 02:50:11 AM »
This is interesting. Can you please draw out this concept showing the source of energy and switching arrangement?
The source of energy and the switching arrangement? That's the One Million Dollar question! :P

TK says the energy comes from space surrounding us. Now that what surrounds us is the aether. So could it be that the aether acts like a high voltage capacitor which re-charges itself each time one tries to discharge it?

Therefore my next basic research #5: The polarity is reversed compared to #4, the switch has a capacitor in parallel and ground is connected via a glow lamp. As soon as the switch is opened  the coil generates a positive (high) voltage pulse. Since positive means there is a lack of electrons and since there are a lot of electrons in the ground a small current flows through the glow lamp and makes it flash.

So what could happen if the polarity of the voltage spike would not always be positive but reversed each time the switch is opened (say 100 times a second)? More current should flow through the glow lamp and the ground as a consequence. And isn't the generation (amplification) of current (not voltage) exactly that what the TK device does?

Have to think about this ...

 

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