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Offline jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16980 on: April 16, 2013, 07:52:49 PM »
Clearly then you have already achieved this feat. Is your latest project above intended as an improvement on your first?


 Well this project is my original project that has been on hold for quite some time. It is the proof that we are not using the magnetic field per say. Only the electric field will play in this electromagnetic generator that Tesla designed.


 The electric field will sweep through the generator coils and generate huge amounts of current. Well that's the premise.. Here is a lame attempt at drawing the prototype self excited generator/motor.

 I also decided to run with a constant pull generator for the exciter. Once the magnets are in place it will constantly pull evenly on each magnetic reducing the clogging that we normally see with regular generators with physical poles. the premise is that the magnets will have such a force on the circular core for the exciter that heavy magnetic lines will cut the very fine copper coils I am gonna use for the exciter generator. This should return some very high voltage to excite the field coils and capacitors have to be used for the gap to work properly. The amount of capacitance will dictate the strength of the discharges and the gap will control the abruptness of the shorts or impulses going to the field coils.

 The drawing is a very generic form of the system I plan..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16981 on: April 16, 2013, 08:16:51 PM »
TK - pointed to the man saying we tried in his garden just with one kilowatt generator, whole garden was bright and we let running long time without problem, someone called Mamuka came, he is physicist, I(TK) asked him can you explain you as a physicist all these, Mamuka answered that he is not sure, he does not know, this is not something I can explain by simple physics.These what I see exceeds law of Physics. This is something retailed to some kind of nature I can not explain now, I do not know. This is impossible, I do not believe, there is something I do not know what?.TK - Why? here it is. why is it not possible? when was these laws established? in which century? 18th century? He is asking to explain by physics laws, If I brake any law of physic's when you see her this device why does it work? I am not braking any of laws of physic's in this case leave me and trust in what you see and try to understand. Mamuka - what can we do, this is not by the law of physics.TK - in this case update it.Mamuka - No you are crazy.TK - here is the experiment I conducted for you, and did it many times, in many places.Mamuka - If you can, explain it if not we can not recognize it. They are discussing different physicists reactions which happened in different times.Some othe physic said to TK, we understand there is unlimited energy in the cosmos, but what it has to do here, what is it, is nothing emptiness?


Well Mamuka is  very nice and friendly person( Please don't take it literally or figuratively  )
The whole nature of Georgians is that they have been known by their  outstanding  hospitality and kindness
"in many cases" just to grab you for many times more as return.


Mamuka was to me  kind, helpful,  he did not accept even return  money for gasoline.
He was paying  for restaurant food ( not accepting me to pay).
Taking me to places.
He is deeply religious and praying  person ( or..........  just manifesting it)
"He was doing everything possible to keep me busy in seeing Tbilisi".


 By that time TK was supposedly in bed
after poisoning in Plane both of us. But he was not. He had a meeting  with Li.a rep.
Late "assumption" was that Li.a - chocolate company of Latvia was  about to lose 30k euro because  I come to the picture.- As their part  or entire  ongoing project (that was  for the past 2 years).-was to be ruined by my presence.
The fare for this trip "originated" from that particular entity.
At the gate of airport in Tbilisi  there was rep. of it who  was   waiting for TK and possibly me but in horizontal position.
 In Hotel Opera in Prague  TK had 2 guys ( "friends")participating in  on "going project"
I assume that:
- when first I got to Opera and  in TK hotel room, skype was responded by one of them Koba
That was the time  "of information request."
Li.a ask - who is the  man in the  room
Koba- no......
Li.a -Yes...........
Koba-Well...............


I was  next to computer  so I my face but  face only ,could not be seen in camera.
After I left with TK one of them  joined us little later.
That I assume was  the time when I was "sold to higher bidder"
There is inconsistency here as spying on me in my way to Opera took place  prior to Skype conversation.
It looks like Koba was surprised that confirmation of my arrival was requested in time by Li.a, when I was not yet in restaurant with TK.


The two of them have "been originated with fare and accommodation by the same entity as well" they been there , just 2 days before their  arrival to Prague.
I was not only one who was  scheduled to  see TK.
That was another man from Prague who  was representing potential investors.
TK said that he was not responding.( I have got  in contact with   this man many times after. The statement of  TK is very much questionable now)


It is very much alarming to find for how little money human life could be lost out there.


Mamuka is not  scientist and he knows nothing in the field.
More than that- he does not state any knowledge in  TK arts.
I might  assume that  he  is  as far from any aspects of basics as Tbilisi from New York. Not to try to insult him.
For the moment I was thinking that he just playing one as a role, but there is nothing, nothing  that would confirm it otherwise.
I have been in sort of in-frequent  contact with him  for long time.
later on ,I was also serving him some .... as it was his expressed desire.


He is not ..hm........ for the past 3 years now
But so is most of Georgia.
Unemployment rate in this country I was told is  about 80%
Yet everyone has  some sort of  life there and not much difficulties to  maintain it.
I know you  will find it hard to understand.


So the question is why TK  ask  Mamuka  any questions at all?
I did not review  that particular part of video yet.


Try to read what is not necessary printed here - to get it.


Wesley








 
 




 




 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16982 on: April 16, 2013, 08:33:02 PM »
  Hoppy:
   I know what you mean, but from the translation it looks like the battery charger at the output from the device, is what is charging the source battery back so it won't discharge completely. If the battery charger is disconnected to device will still run from just the old dead battery, until it is drained. And probably much longer if the battery were in good shape.
 So, no feed back is essential for it to run. And can even be started from the mains power without using a battery. But, maybe does need the battery to self run, while being charged back up by the battery charger. If no source battery is used, or grid input, etz...no power is obtained. It will not run without this source battery (or some type of input source), but will run without the feed back.  If I've got this wrong, please let me know.
  Using no feed-back, and ANY SOURCE as the 220v input to kick start, or maintain it working. This is how I understand the information given by the translation, that is almost 10 years old, before all the miss-information started. 
 
Please all:  Read that translation again.

Tk - saying that firstly when it starts working, primary coil gets power through spark gap.
TK - saying that in the spark gap interruption happens 50 times in one seconds. He is saying that in the spark gap is 50 Hz
TK - saying that the thick wire is the primary coil. He is saying that the most interesting thing is that the spark gap takes very little power. Then he is pointing finger on the inverter saying this is 400 watts inverter, but we are receiving 5 kilowatts from my device. 400 watts not fully needed. we are taking about 0.4 amp which is 400 milliamp (corrected by Nick), getting 5 kilowatts. I simply started charging battery from the output energy, today scientists calling this perpetual mobile, when from the output energy battery gets charged and the device is feeds itself. I did the test, output for charging the battery I disconnected from the battery and it worked from its own output power. The device works, gives 5 kWatts and just takes from the output what ever it takes 0.4 amp. So, this is the very positive result of this device. takes less and gives much more.  Now I do not know its max power output, it might give 6,7 8, kilowatts but at the moment I do not want to risk to burn anything, basically 5 kilowatts are enough. It needs about 0.4 amp 220 volts and gives about 24 amp 220 volts. This is the secret(not really the exact word, but is very similar) of this device.



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Re: NMR Experiments. Different approach
« Reply #16983 on: April 16, 2013, 08:53:19 PM »
I have thought of a different approach. To try with a Single coil Royer oscillator tuned to say 175/180 Khz.
This is has 3 gotchas:
1) Royer oscillator frequency heavily depends on load.
2) Royer oscillator does not produce a sinewave which means that it generates other frequencies besides the one it is tuned to. (see attachment)
3) The temperature of the transistors and diodes affects its operating frequency and the frequency drifts with time.

Now should I stick with my 7 micro H coil?
I think so. 8Ω @ 175kHz is very convenient.

Another thought. Would copper tube or thin sheet allow for better penetration?
It should not make much difference. Because the skin effect will keep the RF current near the surface of the copper core anyway.
At the 175kHz the RF penetration depth will be only 0.16mm   :(

Here the relevant equation is:
D = 503210 * SQRT( R/(f*ur) )
where D: skin depth in mm, R: resistivity  in Ωm, f: frequency in Hertz, ur: relative permeability   

Making the copper core in a press out of passivated copper powder, would increase its resistivity and increase the RF penetration depth significantly.  This way more copper volume could be resonated.

If tube what about a longtidudinal coil inside said tube? (ie wound lengthwise)
The magnetic field inhomogeneity outside the coil would be even worse and even less of the volume of copper would be able to resonate at one frequency.
Two Helmholtz Coils (or a Maxwell Coil) and a plastic holder in the empty space between them would be the best substitute for the helical DC "carrier coil", that you have now.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16984 on: April 16, 2013, 09:22:51 PM »
Here is a link, of an experiments done with pancake coil transformers and such that involve resonance.  It has the circuits they used and what they have confirmed with the outputs being much higher than the inputs.  Using Excitation.  Not much talk on the currents thoe..


http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/24122/InTech-Resonance_analysis_of_induced_emf_on_coils.pdf

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Re: NMR Experiments. Different approach
« Reply #16985 on: April 16, 2013, 09:28:20 PM »
This is has 3 gotchas:
1) Royer oscillator frequency heavily depends on load.
2) Royer oscillator does not produce a sinewave which means that it generates other frequencies besides the one it is tuned to. (see attachment)
3) The temperature of the transistors and diodes affects its operating frequency and the frequency drifts with time.
I think so. 8Ω @ 175kHz is very convenient.
It should not make much difference. Because the skin effect will keep the RF current near the surface of the copper core anyway.
At the 175kHz the RF penetration depth will be only 0.16mm   :(

Here the relevant equation is:
D = 503210 * SQRT( R/(f*ur) )
where D: skin depth in mm, R: resistivity  in Ωm, f: frequency in Hertz, ur: relative permeability   

Making the copper core in a press out of passivated copper powder, would increase its resistivity and increase the RF penetration depth significantly.  This way more copper volume could be resonated.
The magnetic field inhomogeneity outside the coil would be even worse and even less of the volume of copper would be able to resonate at one frequency.
Two Helmholtz Coils (or a Maxwell Coil) and a plastic holder in the empty space between them would be the best substitute for the helical DC "carrier coil", that you have now.
Dear Verpies,

Many thanks for your prompt reply.

Please see attached for my Royer Sine wave.  I have 140 V p/p at 445 mA and it is pretty stable. Yes you are right about the frequency changing when you insert a sample but I noticed I could alter it by slipping off a turn or two!!

But I still do not have the power!!

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16986 on: April 16, 2013, 09:36:35 PM »
  Hoppy:
   I know what you mean, but from the translation it looks like the battery charger at the output from the device, is what is charging the source battery back so it won't discharge completely. If the battery charger is disconnected to device will still run from just the old dead battery, until it is drained. And probably much longer if the battery were in good shape.
 So, no feed back is essential for it to run. And can even be started from the mains power without using a battery. But, maybe does need the battery to self run, while being charged back up by the battery charger. If no source battery is used, or grid input, etz...no power is obtained. It will not run without this source battery (or some type of input source), but will run without the feed back.  If I've got this wrong, please let me know.
  Using no feed-back, and ANY SOURCE as the 220v input to kick start, or maintain it working. This is how I understand the information given by the translation, that is almost 10 years old, before all the miss-information started. 
 
Please all:  Read that translation again.

Tk - saying that firstly when it starts working, primary coil gets power through spark gap.
TK - saying that in the spark gap interruption happens 50 times in one seconds. He is saying that in the spark gap is 50 Hz
TK - saying that the thick wire is the primary coil. He is saying that the most interesting thing is that the spark gap takes very little power. Then he is pointing finger on the inverter saying this is 400 watts inverter, but we are receiving 5 kilowatts from my device. 400 watts not fully needed. we are taking about 0.4 amp which is 400 milliamp (corrected by Nick), getting 5 kilowatts. I simply started charging battery from the output energy, today scientists calling this perpetual mobile, when from the output energy battery gets charged and the device is feeds itself. I did the test, output for charging the battery I disconnected from the battery and it worked from its own output power. The device works, gives 5 kWatts and just takes from the output what ever it takes 0.4 amp. So, this is the very positive result of this device. takes less and gives much more.  Now I do not know its max power output, it might give 6,7 8, kilowatts but at the moment I do not want to risk to burn anything, basically 5 kilowatts are enough. It needs about 0.4 amp 220 volts and gives about 24 amp 220 volts. This is the secret(not really the exact word, but is very similar) of this device.

I'm not necessarily talking about feedback to a source battery whether it be visible or hidden. I'm primarily thinking in terms of a controlled feedback e.g., from say the secondary to primary of a transformer in order to produce an unusual arrangement of components / wiring not normally designed into an electrical / electronic system. In other words thinking 'outside the box' to come up with unusual circuit configurations that TK might have experimented with that led to his demo devices. There may be some genuine clues in TK's description but then again there may also be some deliberately misleading information.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16987 on: April 16, 2013, 09:48:10 PM »
I'm not necessarily talking about feedback to a source battery whether it be visible or hidden. I'm primarily thinking in terms of a controlled feedback e.g., from say the secondary to primary of a transformer in order to produce an unusual arrangement of components / wiring not normally designed into an electrical / electronic system. In other words thinking 'outside the box' to come up with unusual circuit configurations that TK might have experimented with that led to his demo devices. There may be some genuine clues in TK's description but then again there may also be some deliberately misleading information.

Dear Hoppy,

This harks back to our recent discussion about the "Black boxes"  that you attached to your electricity meter to make them go backwards! BTW not you as in you!! :)

I had a freind that bought one I will have to see if he still has it, perhaps as you say a weird feedback could induce an even weirder outcome!!

Cheers Grum.

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Re: NMR Experiments. Different approach
« Reply #16988 on: April 16, 2013, 10:11:20 PM »
Please see attached for my Royer Sine wave.  I have 140 V p/p at 445 mA and it is pretty stable. Yes you are right about the frequency changing when you insert a sample but I noticed I could alter it by slipping off a turn or two!!
Does that give you the frequency tuning precision that you want?

Also, your Royer scopeshot appears to show PDC not AC, right?.
If it was AC that would mean 50VRMS - assuming a  pseudo sinewave.

But I still do not have the power!!
How do you know?  Are you feeding that 175kHz 140Vp-p into that 7μH coil ?

P.S.
For 36V 1A RF amplifier you can try the EL2009C video buffer.  It can handle even 1Ω loads.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16989 on: April 16, 2013, 10:22:24 PM »
Dear Hoppy,

This harks back to our recent discussion about the "Black boxes"  that you attached to your electricity meter to make them go backwards! BTW not you as in you!! :)

I had a freind that bought one I will have to see if he still has it, perhaps as you say a weird feedback could induce an even weirder outcome!!

Cheers Grum.

Evening Grum,

Yes. As Nick and others have pointed out, we visually see an untidy pile of electronic junk and may assume that there is something more sophisticated electronics hidden in his 'black boxes'. I'm suggesting that this may not be the case and the reality could be akin to what SM said in respect of his TPU - something to the effect that its the way the junk is wired that's most important. With this in mind, any unconventional approach to circuit build and configuration can tried with equal expectation of success. An NMR situation makes most sense to me at the moment, simply because Wesley has shown us that he has had some interesting experimental results.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16990 on: April 16, 2013, 10:32:49 PM »
   Hoppy:
   Thanks for clearing up your views concerning the feed back. Now that I understand what you mean, I do think that that must be the only way that it could work.
Simple... Yes, but not normal transformer action, but something that even by accident we have not stumbled across, or may have even overlooked.
  This is not rocket science. TK is a simple man, not smarter than many of us. This may not involve brains. But, he found something, different, and is using that in all his devices. What this is???   
The billion dollar question.
  Let's make this happen, together we can solve this. I believe we can... I know we can... It's been staring us in the face, for years.
   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16991 on: April 16, 2013, 11:01:23 PM »
  I'll wait and see, with this new approach using the beta decay.  My kitchen table is full at the moment. Yokes and all...

   My father was born in Yugoslavia, and a chemical enginner working for G.E. at their  nuclear radiation plant in Vallecitor Ca.  He warmed me about radiation, and what it can do, and did do to him. It is a destructive power, like an explosion, not anything like how nature works, which uses vortex energy, called Vortexya.
 That was enough for me to avoid it at all cost.   Good thing I'll varporize before I feel anything. Makes me feel better, now.
  Remember what SM mentioned about the tv set explosion???  Was he kidding, also???

  Each to his own. But,  I'll continue with the Tesla systems that I have faith in.



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Re: NMR Experiments. Different approach
« Reply #16992 on: April 16, 2013, 11:32:06 PM »
Does that give you the frequency tuning precision that you want?

Also, your Royer scopeshot appears to show PDC not AC, right?.
If it was AC that would mean 50VRMS - assuming a  pseudo sinewave.
How do you know?  Are you feeding that 175kHz 140Vp-p into that 7μH coil ?

P.S.
For 36V 1A RF amplifier you can try the EL2009C video buffer.  It can handle even 1Ω loads.

Dear Verpies,

Present coil is 14 micro H   20 turns   on 2" dia cardboard former using    4mm squared   7 strand  PVC insulated copper wire. I have not measured the DC resistance but I could be fairly certain it's under an ohm.

I do not quite understand why you ask PDC? The output is derived from DC yes, but you have 2 mosfets in a sort of push pull. Creating what I would term AC.

Cheers Grum.

PS, Do you have a special keyboard for your electrical notation?

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« Reply #16993 on: April 16, 2013, 11:51:50 PM »
  I'll wait and see, with this new approach using the beta decay.  My kitchen table is full at the moment. Yokes and all...

   My father was born in Yugoslavia, and a chemical enginner working for G.E. at their  nuclear radiation plant in Vallecitor Ca.  He warmed me about radiation, and what it can do, and did do to him. It is a destructive power, like an explosion, not anything like how nature works, which uses vortex energy, called Vortexya.
 That was enough for me to avoid it at all cost.   Good thing I'll varporize before I feel anything. Makes me feel better, now.
  Remember what SM mentioned about the tv set explosion???  Was he kidding, also???

  Each to his own. But,  I'll continue with the Tesla systems that I have faith in.

Dear NickZ,

I can well understand your reluctance to dabbling in this field. I have been more convinced than ever that NMR is the probable source of the excess energy that is produced by these devices. Simply because you are not breaking any of the known laws of Physics. The material is but a fuel, just like gasoline, but many times more energetic for it's volume.

But as I said in an earlier post there will be many ways in which to find energy. We just need to look. I really do think that Nikola Tesla knew something, you only need to look at his photographs, there is a knowing look in his eyes!!

On that rather whistfull note, I bid you good night.

But please be carefull with that Yoke device, you could well be generating Beta particles without knowing!!

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16994 on: April 17, 2013, 12:18:59 AM »

Well Mamuka is  very nice and friendly person( Please don't take it literally or figuratively  )
The whole nature of Georgians is that they have been known by their  outstanding  hospitality and kindness
"in many cases" just to grab you for many times more as return.


Mamuka was to me  kind, helpful,  he did not accept even return  money for gasoline.
He was paying  for restaurant food ( not accepting me to pay).
Taking me to places.
He is deeply religious and praying  person ( or..........  just manifesting it)
"He was doing everything possible to keep me busy in seeing Tbilisi".


 By that time TK was supposedly in bed
after poisoning in Plane both of us. But he was not. He had a meeting  with Li.a rep.
Late "assumption" was that Li.a - chocolate company of Latvia was  about to lose 30k euro because  I come to the picture.- As their part  or entire  ongoing project (that was  for the past 2 years).-was to be ruined by my presence.
The fare for this trip "originated" from that particular entity.
At the gate of airport in Tbilisi  there was rep. of it who  was   waiting for TK and possibly me but in horizontal position.
 In Hotel Opera in Prague  TK had 2 guys ( "friends")participating in  on "going project"
I assume that:
- when first I got to Opera and  in TK hotel room, skype was responded by one of them Koba
That was the time  "of information request."
Li.a ask - who is the  man in the  room
Koba- no......
Li.a -Yes...........
Koba-Well...............


I was  next to computer  so I my face but  face only ,could not be seen in camera.
After I left with TK one of them  joined us little later.
That I assume was  the time when I was "sold to higher bidder"
There is inconsistency here as spying on me in my way to Opera took place  prior to Skype conversation.
It looks like Koba was surprised that confirmation of my arrival was requested in time by Li.a, when I was not yet in restaurant with TK.


The two of them have "been originated with fare and accommodation by the same entity as well" they been there , just 2 days before their  arrival to Prague.
I was not only one who was  scheduled to  see TK.
That was another man from Prague who  was representing potential investors.
TK said that he was not responding.( I have got  in contact with   this man many times after. The statement of  TK is very much questionable now)


It is very much alarming to find for how little money human life could be lost out there.


Mamuka is not  scientist and he knows nothing in the field.
More than that- he does not state any knowledge in  TK arts.
I might  assume that  he  is  as far from any aspects of basics as Tbilisi from New York. Not to try to insult him.
For the moment I was thinking that he just playing one as a role, but there is nothing, nothing  that would confirm it otherwise.
I have been in sort of in-frequent  contact with him  for long time.
later on ,I was also serving him some .... as it was his expressed desire.


He is not ..hm........ for the past 3 years now
But so is most of Georgia.
Unemployment rate in this country I was told is  about 80%
Yet everyone has  some sort of  life there and not much difficulties to  maintain it.
I know you  will find it hard to understand.


So the question is why TK  ask  Mamuka  any questions at all?
I did not review  that particular part of video yet.


Try to read what is not necessary printed here - to get it.


Wesley

Hi, Wesley
I guess I could not write all in full.
In fact Mamuka is a friend of Tariel. Mamuka has nothing to do with physic, he is not a physicist I just watched it again. It was Mamuka asked the scantest if he could explain from the science point of view only after inconsistence answers from the physicist  Tariel started talking to the Physicist, Note: remember this was about the other demo TK conducted for scientists and has nothing to do with the demo is going in the video. May be I could not correctly wrote all, There is lots of talking going on before he started up the device in a full video I only translated part starting from 7th minute I think. I just did it quickly in rush. Sorry and thanks.