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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 11743202 times)

Dave45

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21090 on: February 16, 2014, 03:01:01 PM »
Iv ran my head enough today
start here at post 4510 http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg388144/topicseen/#new

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21091 on: February 16, 2014, 04:25:45 PM »
It is?

If all supplied energy would be dissipated in the up and down movement of the pendulum's weight then there would be no energy left to accelerate the pendulum.

The question should be, when one of the thyristors here shorts one of the capacitors, then how long does that short persist? Up to zero-crossing of the wave or until the capacitor is dissipated? Or perhaps we are looking at the wrong wave? Maybe the current graph of the LC circuit is that what counts not the voltage graph?

High voltage ionization separates

What is high voltage? At which point starts a voltage to be high voltage and to separate?

this forum is a dead end and all of them are.

Has anyone managed to get parametric resonance yet but still no unusual behavior of the circuit? Or just no one could achieve parametric resonance yet? Then parametric resonance is still the best candidate for this.

We have two independent devices but with very similar (if not identical) wiring. It would be extremely strange if this is just a mere coincidence. There are one transformer (or just a choke?), two thyristors and two capacitors. That's it - as it seems.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21092 on: February 16, 2014, 04:37:59 PM »
Quote
Quote from: Dave45 on Today at 07:38:30 AM<blockquote>High voltage ionization separates
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What is high voltage? At which point starts a voltage to be high voltage and to separate?

Its the point where you have created enough stress on the air molecules to cause separation into pos and neg ions.

separate
collect

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21092 on: February 16, 2014, 04:37:59 PM »
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Offline energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21093 on: February 16, 2014, 06:05:27 PM »
all LRC circuits are below 100% efficient ,  the creation of high voltage has too much losses.  with ringing down circulation you wont get anything out for free.   if you separate charges then whats going to happen?   
your circuits wire resistance, your transistors, your resistors, your capacitors, your high voltage transformer(s) and lastly the separation of charges.    very inefficient process..   
and this applies to any replicator on planet earth.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21094 on: February 16, 2014, 06:28:31 PM »
all LRC circuits are below 100% efficient ,  the creation of high voltage has too much losses.  with ringing down circulation you wont get anything out for free.   if you separate charges then whats going to happen?   
your circuits wire resistance, your transistors, your resistors, your capacitors, your high voltage transformer(s) and lastly the separation of charges.    very inefficient process..   
and this applies to any replicator on planet earth.
really ? Tesla compared capacitor to explosive except there is no limit for him for getting out power from capacitor. Because capacitor work with inductance and if you follow Tesla patent chronology he first patented method of conversion by capacitor discharge then go further and ended with many patents of circuit make&break controller I strongly advice : try to not underestimate LCR circuit .... or Tesla spent a lot of money for nothing ??????  try to avoid R

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21095 on: February 16, 2014, 06:34:50 PM »
all LRC circuits are below 100% efficient ,  the creation of high voltage has too much losses.  with ringing down circulation you wont get anything out for free.   if you separate charges then whats going to happen?   
your circuits wire resistance, your transistors, your resistors, your capacitors, your high voltage transformer(s) and lastly the separation of charges.    very inefficient process..   
and this applies to any replicator on planet earth.

If you separate enough charges quick enough something might go "BANG" hehehe.

This is what I don't get,

1) No one has shown shorting coils gets back more energy than was expended to do it, only that they can at times get back more energy that way than the other way by just using the generator coil as normal (without causing spikes to get higher voltages).

2) Why are so many people "faking" these setups with hidden wires and so forth and claiming replications ?

It is an odd phenomenon. I mean to say what is stopping the Barbosa and Leal guys from continuing on like Tariel has, and go into some other line of getting "investments" even while claiming suppression ?

Cheers

 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21096 on: February 16, 2014, 07:26:31 PM »
people are faking devices because they want to get attention.  they get a ton of views and praisals, but nothing gets back to people in return. only useless pointings to the dark in reality.
very.... repeated behaviour you can see all the time.
then people suffer from these fakers because they spend time energy and money on a thing that does not work and will never work.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21097 on: February 16, 2014, 07:44:54 PM »
Dear All.

I fairly often wonder why some folk are members of this Forum !!

Overunity.Com.  Title. "Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy"

And yet we get folks that act like "The village Bobby"  "Bobby", British slang for Policeman. Whilst there is still a vestige of freedom I personally feel that I am going to play around in my spare time doing as many "Hair brained" experiments as I choose !! Please stop the negativity!! I for one could not care less what you think or say!! Just let those of us that wish to spend our time messing ,get on with it !!

Ok minor rant over !!

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21098 on: February 16, 2014, 08:05:45 PM »
We already know it just have to put it together.
Ionization is the key, separate the charges then collect.
There are two charges pos and neg combined neutral separated energetic,
High voltage ionization separates, separate circuit to collect what has been separated.
Separate - Collect

Dear Dave45.

I have been pondering upon your recent posts and yes I do think you have something.

Looking back to my Akula0083 replication (I call it his Mk 2 version) What have we got?? Internal Tesla primary. Driven from the middle creating separate end charges. This coil overwrapped by a larger paired bifilar coil (Collector) also driven by the same oscillator. A final single layer output coil to load.

I have seen a number of videos (some private) where they are combining electrostatic with low current to create an overall net gain in output. I am not suggesting OU but the principle is most definitely there !!

PM me if you wish so we can discuss further.

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21098 on: February 16, 2014, 08:05:45 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21099 on: February 16, 2014, 08:32:40 PM »
really ? Tesla compared capacitor to explosive except there is no limit for him for getting out power from capacitor. Because capacitor work with inductance and if you follow Tesla patent chronology he first patented method of conversion by capacitor discharge then go further and ended with many patents of circuit make&break controller I strongly advice : try to not underestimate LCR circuit .... or Tesla spent a lot of money for nothing ??? ???  try to avoid R


 The biggest problem is that most Educated people think in a very small box. They can not break out of that box because of LAWS they have created to keep them in that box.


 Tesla knew one thing. Capacitors are the way to free energy. Why is that? Does a real current flow in a capacitor? Absolutely not. It is by induction that a real capacitor works without physical motion. The only motion that is utilized in a capacitor is the virtual voltage potential. When that varies you get output.


 Yes you need to reduce the real resistance and the other resistance like effects to get real energy out. The bifilar coil reduces self induction<-Resistance of flow or current while still maintaining a raising of the voltage potential.


 Lets look at why this happens. The raising of the potential is not from self induction. Well what could raise the potential then in a coil if self induction is canceled out? The speed at which the charges flow through the coil! The higher the speed gain the higher the potential of that charge moving through the coil. This is commonly accepted in particle accelerators. Why is it not accepted here? In fact the bifilar coil adds speed to the charges by using opposite entry points for the - and +. This accelerates the charges and increases the voltage potential of both charges.


 In looking at the designs of Tesla and his motors/generators I think I have found out why he was getting great results. The torroid generator ring could if looked at properly provide a balanced pull from both directions if you use a pair of magnets in the center. With wire wrapped around the torroid coil in 2 or 4 single coils one could generate without massive resistance. Using the bifilar winding method in split phasing is another crucial method. Yes you will get some resistance to turning but not as much as if you used poles. Tesla described the torroid as a perfect way to get rid of load based resistance due to the things I mentioned above.


 If we look back at the workshop demonstration TK did with the plated motor you see the torroid around a shaft. Did the shaft have magnets in it? I think so.... So the motor itself was a form of Tesla's steady state motor/generator. TK prolly incorporated Tesla's one terminal motor design as well into the design to further it's ability to furnish energy.


 Do me a favor and go back to TK's videos and rewatch them again. Then goto www.TeslaUniverse.com and read the patents and put them together like I have. Read the speeches That Tesla did and you will finally understand what Tesla and TK were doing.


 Listening to most of these guys here for the most part is not going to give you any little bit of understanding. Like I have said before most of These guys are only here to discourage you and others from realizing that it can be done. If we change our approach and understand what induction is and how it really works then we will have free energy for all.


 Here is a person doing just that :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gl45Ulf7Us&list=PLO6FJVqlxatdprKQA1BhrJCML2tbomVJ2

 Good place to read about the speeches and writing of Tesla:  http://www.tfcbooks.com/default.htm

 Induction is the only way to not destroy the dipole if it is done in the proper method.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21100 on: February 16, 2014, 08:36:00 PM »
Dear All.

I fairly often wonder why some folk are members of this Forum !!

Overunity.Com.  Title. "Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy"

And yet we get folks that act like "The village Bobby"  "Bobby", British slang for Policeman. Whilst there is still a vestige of freedom I personally feel that I am going to play around in my spare time doing as many "Hair brained" experiments as I choose !! Please stop the negativity!! I for one could not care less what you think or say!! Just let those of us that wish to spend our time messing ,get on with it !!

Ok minor rant over !!

Cheers Grum.


Exactly Grumage !!!

Thank you.

I've been beating that same drum for some time on here now.

There is nothing more thought provoking than a freely expressed new idea.

No matter how "hair brained" it may seem to some.

Regards...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21101 on: February 16, 2014, 08:41:25 PM »
Dear All.

I fairly often wonder why some folk are members of this Forum !!

Overunity.Com.  Title. "Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy"

And yet we get folks that act like "The village Bobby"  "Bobby", British slang for Policeman. Whilst there is still a vestige of freedom I personally feel that I am going to play around in my spare time doing as many "Hair brained" experiments as I choose !! Please stop the negativity!! I for one could not care less what you think or say!! Just let those of us that wish to spend our time messing ,get on with it !!

Ok minor rant over !!

Cheers Grum.

Thats a really good observation.   

Can anyone tell me how to create an impulse spike using signal modulation??  Maybe using two primary coils with different signals or just one primary to create an impulse spike...  I don't know much about the subject, but have read articles on making music or sound waves and the problem they where having when combining sound waves RF sine frequencys  and  were these large Impulse spikes.   It the same thing that Steve Marks did..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21102 on: February 16, 2014, 09:09:33 PM »
Of course you guys are free to pursue your work on the bench wherever it may take you.  At the same time there is freedom to comment in both senses and hopefully there will be some learning at the same time.  It's a good thing that people can comment.

At the same time you can't deny that there is a knowledge and experience gap.  Without knowledge and solid experience you can experiment to your heart's content and get nowhere.  If that's what you want to do then that's what you want to do.

The Quanta Magnetics guy was linked to as an example of cutting-edge research into induction.  I have watched at least a dozen of his clips and guess what?  He barely has a clue with respect to what he is doing.  I am being absolutely serious, not joking.  He is just an ordinary guy that makes pretty pulse motors out of Lucite to sell them for big profits.  He is incapable of punching his way out of a wet electronics paper bag, it's almost pathetic.

Now, are my comments above good or bad?  I know that many of you will look at the Quanta Magnetics guy's clips and be very impressed and believe that he is doing something real.  That's because many of you also are on the entry side of the knowledge and experience gap.  I have cringed looking at some Quanta Magnetics clips.

That's just the state of affairs as I see them.  I think many of you don't care about the knowledge gap or are in denial about the knowledge gap.  That means that you can be fed complete junk and be blissfully unaware.  In the long run that's not a good place to be in.

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« Reply #21103 on: February 16, 2014, 09:47:27 PM »
  I think many of you don't care about the knowledge gap or are in denial about the knowledge gap.  That means that you can be fed complete junk and be blissfully unaware.  In the long run that's not a good place to be in.

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« Reply #21104 on: February 17, 2014, 09:07:51 AM »
I'm all for whacky ideas and builds for fun but draw the line at free running claims that are not backed up with good measurement data. Unfortunately, the vast majority videos we see presenting self-runners fall into this category and in consequence are just eye candy designed IMO, simply to draw attention and produce 'hits' for unethical purpose.  :(   

 

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