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Author Topic: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit  (Read 44395 times)

Offline spiralout

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Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« on: August 24, 2009, 11:54:42 AM »

Hi all,

Just saw a great lecture and demo by Karl Palsness about his replica
 of Tesla's stout copper bars circuit. My knowledge of electric circuitry
 is somewhat limited, but this is as simple as it gets. The device lets you
 get a, literally, hands on understanding of Tesla's radiant energy, or scalar
 waves, if you like.

To me it seems like the device is "filtering" the electricity in some way and
 leaves us with an interface for understanding the essential energy that is
 all around us and has more names than I willing to type right now. This is
 a learning tool and not a free energy device, as Karl himself says in his
 lecture.

There's also a thread about this circuit over at energeticforum with Karl
 and a site with great and detailed pictures of the circuit.

http://www.transformacomm.com/en/tech/tesla-hairpin-circuit.htm

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3467-teslas-stout-copper-bars-hairpin-circuit.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS0BeVeIwM

Hope you'll enjoy,

Adam.





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Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« on: August 24, 2009, 11:54:42 AM »

Offline mikestocks2006

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 05:56:57 PM »
Hi all,

Just saw a great lecture and demo by Karl Palsness about his replica
 of Tesla's stout copper bars circuit. My knowledge of electric circuitry
 is somewhat limited, but this is as simple as it gets. The device lets you
 get a, literally, hands on understanding of Tesla's radiant energy, or scalar
 waves, if you like.

To me it seems like the device is "filtering" the electricity in some way and
 leaves us with an interface for understanding the essential energy that is
 all around us and has more names than I willing to type right now. This is
 a learning tool and not a free energy device, as Karl himself says in his
 lecture.

There's also a thread about this circuit over at energeticforum with Karl
 and a site with great and detailed pictures of the circuit.

http://www.transformacomm.com/en/tech/tesla-hairpin-circuit.htm

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3467-teslas-stout-copper-bars-hairpin-circuit.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS0BeVeIwM

Hope you'll enjoy,

Adam.
Hi Adam,
Some questions would be:
How much useful power can be drawn from the system’s 2 vertical copper rods?
How would that power compare with the 240 VA input rating of the power supply (transformer)?
Has anyone measured the total useful output?

Thanks for the interesting links/info.
Mike

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 10:20:59 PM »
@Mike,

My pleasure, but I think you're missing a point here. Whatever is flowing
through those copper rods is not electricity and cannot be measured, at
least not with instruments that I am familiar with. If it was electricity,
how could he put his hands on them and live to tell the story?

This device is not about extracting or amplifying energy, it's an opportunity
to gain some knowledge about the most fundamental question of them all,
what the fuck is energy anyway? Before we think of applications it might
serve us well to understand what we're dealing with and the only way to
 do that, is to gather the components and build one of these babies.

For me, the most interesting detail about this device is in the 3rd part
of his lecture when he describes how it felt to be holding the rods, and
also quoted Tesla, which said that he used to treat people suffering from
cancer with the device.

Cheers, Adam. 

 

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 10:20:59 PM »
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Offline tinu

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 11:07:53 PM »
Yup, it's electricity. RF.
Nonetheless, Tesla was a genius.

Cheers,
Tinu

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 12:20:32 AM »
Hi tinu,

Check out part 6 of the lecture at 4:50 min.

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 12:20:32 AM »
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Offline BEP

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 04:43:09 AM »
Amazing...

1st that Tesla invented a spark type VHF radio transmitter while folks were trying to make LF radio work.

2nd that the folks watching the lecture were amazed.

3rd the speaker seems amazed.

Yes, I watched all of it.

Offline jadaro2600

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 05:01:05 AM »
Perhaps someone could offer up a circuit diagram?

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Offline Yucca

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2009, 05:10:24 AM »
Perhaps someone could offer up a circuit diagram?

heres the diagram, it´s upside down though lol.

|------  NST ------|
|                          |
|                          |
|-----> gap <-------
|                          |
= C1                     = C2
|                          |
|                          |
|                          |
|rod1                    |rod2
|                          |
|                          |
|                          |
|                          |
|                          |
|-------------------|
           shunt

Coincidentally, I watched those vids a few days before this thread started. I´ve seen this behaviour before in HF and VHF loop antennas. The radio name for devices like those using parallel conductors is a "lecher line", its even in wiki. Fascinating things but standard RF behaviour from what Ive seen. Maybe a useful module in a larger FE system though?

Offline jadaro2600

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2009, 05:23:29 AM »
heres the diagram, it´s upside down though lol.

|------  NST ------|
|                          |
|                          |
|-----> gap <-------
|                          |
= C1                     = C2
|                          |
|                          |
|                          |
|rod1                    |rod2
|                          |
|                          |
|                          |
|                          |
|                          |
|-------------------|
           shunt

Coincidentally, I watched those vids a few days before this thread started. I´ve seen this behaviour before in HF and VHF loop antennas. The radio name for devices like those using parallel conductors is a "lecher line", its even in wiki. Fascinating things but standard RF behaviour from what Ive seen. Maybe a useful module in a larger FE system though?

I'm finding myself youtube shy at the moment.  What is the NST? stand for.

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2009, 05:23:29 AM »
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Offline Yucca

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2009, 05:35:38 AM »
I'm finding myself youtube shy at the moment.  What is the NST? stand for.

neon sign transformer. 60Hz AC HV supply.

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2009, 11:39:41 AM »

@All

What about the bulb in the water and the difference in power from
top to bottom? Are these normal properties of RF?


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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2009, 11:39:41 AM »
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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2009, 11:48:51 AM »
@All

What about the bulb in the water and the difference in power from
top to bottom? Are these normal properties of RF?

Yes, it is.

The distance between no light and full light is 1/4 wavelength of the transmitted radio frequency.

The water is very high resistance at these frequencies.

A spark gap puts out a very wide band signal. The Lecher line acts as a tuned circuit.


Edit>>

The 1/4 wave measurement above is with the lamp connected from the shorting bar to another point on one vertical bar.

You can see a 1/2 wavelength the same way by connecting from one bar to another with the connections at the same vertical level.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 12:59:33 PM by BEP »

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2010, 09:43:54 PM »
Does anyone have information about that small part he puts on the table and it only spins in one direction?

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2010, 08:48:51 AM »
Loner,

Thanks for your post, I know there's something unique to this circuit,
 I just didn't have the technical terms to express it.

I found another replication of it, what this guy says sound like Chinese to
me, but maybe some of you guys can find it useful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_18E6lo3gN4

Adios.

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2010, 04:33:33 AM »
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