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Author Topic: Amsterdam University Geologists prove that Moon stone was faked!It is from earth  (Read 8977 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/mystery-themen/2009/08/mondgestein/gestein-von-apollo-11-mission-eine-faelschung.html

Here a short translation.
Amsterdam University Geologists have proven, that the moon stone from the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam,
that is on display there and was claimed to come from the Appollo 11 mission
is not from the moon, but is a stoned tree fossil from earth.

Now the moon landing fakes claims get more and more fuel and the skeptics now
ask for all moon stones to be analyzed for fakes !


Regards, Stefan.

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petrified? ...

It's not surprising though.  Perhaps a clerical error? ..I think the moon is mostly ash, it's the only way of accounting for the color.

I also think a alien space ship collided with earth when an over unity device was mistaken for a homing nav beacon though, just call me crazy.

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I hope you don't believe this...

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Moon soil.

Jerry

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Moon soil.

Jerry

Thankyou, this actually clears things up a bit for me.

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Translated by automatic translation from:
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/news/nasa-eine-fliege-im-mondgestein.html


NASA: A fly in the lunar rocks

Gerhard Wisnewski:

A few days ago, an alleged Moonstone in Amsterdam's Rijksmuseum, was exposed as a forgery. The stone actually came from the earth. But this is not an isolated case. The space agency NASA has always had to contend with too-earthly nature of the alleged "moon rocks" to. Years ago, were found in the samples of the lunar Apollo missions, all sorts of earthly legacy - to insect debris ...

The remaining at the NASA part of the total of 382 kilos of moon rocks is very carefully stored. Just as no one on the original images of the moon cometh, shall have no mortals access to the precious rock samples of the earth's satellite. "Today is the> Apollo Collection <back one eingebunkerter treasure, almost as much as the legacy of Tutankhamun" anch Amun, who said the Internet service space.com space on 26 March 2001. "In the safe custody of the Johnson Space Center, the lunar samples are protected from natural hazards such as tornadoes and hurricanes. Sealed in nitrogen-filled containers which are protected even before the lunar samples of terrestrial contamination in order to preserve the historical stories that they tell about the origins of the solar system. "

Meanwhile, the stories that really tell the lunar samples have to be able to please anyone but really. Andrew Steel, an astrobiologist at the University of Portsmouth in Britain, is one of the few scientists who could put the precious samples of the beginning of the century, even with sharper optical instruments body. And only then will the lunar rock appeared to reveal its true secrets. Steel saw what could once again revolutionize our understanding of the Earth and its satellites, but especially from the moon rocks. For the scientist was extremely surprised when he spotted something in the lunar samples, which does not belong there with the best intentions: the fibers of a brush. On closer examination, Steel brought out a whole smorgasbord of things that could not originate from the moon. Apart from plastic, nylon and Teflon parts even earthly small animals, which had evidently felt in the samples from the moon very well. How was it got into everything there? As the samples can be ultra-clean rooms, despite the most careful handling, has been so polluted with earthen material in all these? And if the storage was really so strict, as claimed, it can then not only mean that the all too earthly traces had already been included before the lunar samples were stored? For example, when they were collected?

Where did the "dirt" else should have come, was certainly not clear. "The actual mechanism of pollution, either by the lunar astronauts themselves or in dealing with the material at the Johnson Space Center," has yet to be clarified, "said Steel, according to the space service space.com. "We have to really figure out exactly where they really" come here, "said Steel. Who? The lunar samples? No: "The pollution."

Of course. Perhaps one could indeed find out more, as a terrestrial bacterium was able to survive in the Moon brought by the camera from Surveyor 3. This from the Americans at the 1967 earth satellite probe was supposedly landed in 1969 by the Apollo 12 astronauts also (allegedly visited), where they are to some parts of the probe has returned to Earth - including the camera. The scientists, at Steel wondered not only how the bacterium could survive in the camera the way back - but also the flight, including half years' stay on the hostile lunar surface. After all, it must somehow be got there. "Dirty little secrets," dirty little secrets, see the renowned Internet Fachdienst space.com in the polluted lunar samples from NASA. Honi soit qui mal y pense.

The space community itself to make these spectacular finds of course, not thoughtful. Finally, it indeed looks as if the dirty secrets yet to be substantially greater than their love can be.

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Translated from:
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/news/sensation-mondgestein-in-amsterdamer-museum-stammt-von-der-erde.html


Sensation: moon rocks in the Amsterdam museum is from the earth!

by Gerhard Wisnewski:


Bye, bye, moon landing.

After the occasion of the 40th anniversary of the moon landing had already declared a Russian cosmonaut and intimate knowledge of space, "parts" of the moon shots were filmed in Hollywood is, well, the next Hammer:

Geologists at the University of Amsterdam, in which unmasked a famous Rijksmuseum Amsterdam issued brocken moon rocks as crude forgery. Instead of lunar material is a piece of fossilized tree from the earth. Instead of half a million, as originally estimated, it is only 50 euros worth of fragments.

The "conspiracy theorists" are right: The moon landing was not a manned moon landing, but a manned conspiracy. For years I preach (in books such as lying in space, lectures and DVDs such as the recently released DVD The Moon (f) lie) that the allegedly manned moon landings of the United States from 1969 to 1972 were a forgery. And now this same time, with the collapse of the American empire and its lies, building together work out. Already talked to 40-year anniversary of the first manned moon landing, 20 July 1969, Russian cosmonaut Alexei Leonov out of school, parts of the moon films were shot in Hollywood, NASA is now finally there with their pants down. And what we see is not imperial, but at the most banal.

"With regards the Ambassador of the United States of America, J. William Middendorf II, to commemorate the visit of the Apollo 11 astronauts Neil A. Armstrong, Michael Collins, Edwin E. Aldrin Jr. in the Netherlands" is, in black written on a golden plate under the small brown chunks. For years had thrown thousands of visitors to the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam, respectful glances at the small stone, the museum had assured him for half a million euros.

In 1969, the then U.S. ambassador to the Netherlands had, J. William Middendorf II, the stone during a visit to tour the "astronauts" from Apollo 11 of the then Dutch government donated.

In a study of the Free University of Amsterdam came out now that the stone is not from the moon, but from the earth. And he also consists of (originally) organic material, namely, the remains of a petrified tree.

"Today, the former ambassador said that he had obtained the stone from the U.S. State Department could, but" remember any details, told the Bild newspaper saying: "The geologists, they would have recognized him at first sight as a forgery."

And this is not the first time that lunar rocks appears to be too earthly.

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Translated from:
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/news/russischer-top-kosmonaut-teile-der-mondlandung-in-hollywood-gedreht.html

Russian elite cosmonaut: Parts of the moon landing filmed in Hollywood

by Gerhard Wisnewski:

For this kind of shot should help the American astronauts to thank well. Under a blazing speech of defense for the lunar landing of a top Russian cosmonaut Alexei Leonov confirmed that parts of the moon landing were filmed in a Hollywood studio .

It was "silly and ridiculous claim" that the Americans had not been to the moon landing, and had falsified her entire film, so Leonov on Monday in a RIA Novosti interview.

"Not the whole movie landing faked"? The times you have to allow it to dissolve on the tongue ...

"These rumors are a hoax due to the fact that had a studio in Hollywood, in fact, some scenes filmed in hindsight," RIA Novosti reported on 20 July 2009 over an interview with Leonov and quoted him as follows: "We had no way to record from the lunar surface, such as Neil Armstrong first opened the hatch and climbed down the stairs from the inside! Had" Moments like these were later recorded in the studio to maintain the "logic of events." "The actual recording started when Armstrong on the lunar surface a little find his way and drew up an antenna to transmit the images to the ground. Then his partner Buzz Aldrin stepped out, and they took each other out, "so, according to RIA Novosti Leonov.

1965 Leonov left "as the first man to his spaceship for a" space walk. His statements also weigh therefore particularly difficult because, with some U.S. astronauts close friends and therefore an intimate knowledge of the U.S. is space. Together with numerous American astronauts, he is a member of the International Association of Space Explorers (ASE), the regular meetings and organizes trips for their members.

What this comes along as a fiery speech to defend the authenticity of the manned lunar landing, is in reality a death blow to the credibility of the company. Because even the slightest confirmation from a competent judge, that a portion of the lunar material could be forged, has a devastating effect on the whole moon landing. Because it was said that the border was really moved there, where it maintains Leonov? The fact is that we made between the shots, according to Leonov and detects still supposedly "real" no difference. Does this mean that the forgery was so good, or rather, does not mean that in reality everything was fake?

Conclusion: Leonov Quotes likely time for the 40th Anniversary of the alleged "moon landing" constitute the beginning of the end of this tale.

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What did the Russians have to gain in not using their direction-finding radios to determine if there were voice-radio broadcasts coming from near the moon?

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[A author=AnAppleSnail link=topic=8071.msg246095#msg246095 date=1277109983]
What did the Russians have to gain in not using their direction-finding radios to determine if there were voice-radio broadcasts coming from near the moon?
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I also wonder whether they would not be able to track a space flight all the way up to the supposed landing. A craft that doesn't land, must be flying. Somewhere. If it took off in the first place, that is.

Did analysis of USA-harvested moon rock offer the same elematary composition as the Russian? Or could this already be determined from orbits?

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Conspiracy theorists say some photos were faked because there was only one light source. Mythbusters proved them wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wym04J_3Ls0

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Other conspiracy theorists find proof that the moon lander lander in the middle of a huge colony on the moon. They find "proof" of huge buildings there, erased by Nasa on all but original photos. Oh,a nd there's supposed to be a machine there that recycles our souls when we are died, for a newborn.
Oh and the Apollo project was the "stupid" one for the press to report on, while Mars landings were all but a daily affair to the "real" top astronauts. In close cooperation with various alien races, of course.
I'll see your theary, and raise you...

SO hard to even know what to believe. Either story line may be a plant of disinfo agents to cover the truth of the other. Even that fake moon rock they tride to buy our hearts with.

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Great post Stefan. Goes right up there with scientists can't identify petrified wood in picture. I agree and glad I'm not the only one. People have to start testing everything that they release that involves space.

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Conspiracy theorists say some photos were faked because there was only one light source. Mythbusters proved them wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wym04J_3Ls0

You really quoted the Mythbusters?  I like the show... I just hate the fact that they have 0 ability to think outside of the box.

It sucks to be lied to about the landing ... it's an "understandable" political move.  Someone once posed an interesting question about the radiation levels up there and how could the astronauts possibly have survived it.  How could the equipment survive and how did they not toast up like burnt marshmallows if this is true?

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Consider this... Many localized 'space objects' of earth origin. Blown out there from a cataclismic earth event that split the original&singular earth land mass into the numerous land masses compromising current geography. Imagine a globe encircling crack in the crust that occurred rapidly and to a depth of say 10 miles. Imagine the original water layer residing at that depth. Let's say it was 1/2 mile thick layer of water and assume it was under incredible pressure. So big crack forms and original water from 10 mile deep layer escapes from this crack under enormous velocity. This occurring within seconds of crack forming. Any loose material around crack launched, some of which beats earths gravitational forces, thus materials leave earth. The crack widens and as it does, bulging of underlying material occurs (material below the orginal water layer). These bulges are actually huge. They still exist today in the form of oceanic ridges. The Mid-Atlantic oceanic ridge for example. Land masses existing above the original water layer, (water now jetting from deep cracks), begin to slide away from the huge ridges that are forming. They slide away from ridges in down hill fashion. This process is fairly rapid (days-weeks NOT billions of years as commonly reported). Meanwhile there is a hell of a lot of rain and chaos on the earth. Neat little curiosities of today, like comets, are actually materials ejected from earth during 'the event'. Do the research on exact water composition of the comets. Its composition shows it to be earth based. Do the research on many meteoric type materials and you get the same story.

It is not a mystery that a chunk of earth rock made it to the moon. The event itself occurred not all that long ago. Perhaps around 2300BC. Most world cultures have stories about it.

Considering a tree was part of the NASA collection makes it quite plausible that they did land there, picked up what appeared to be a unique object that just happened to be of earth origin -blasted out of earths gravity, captured by the moons, and found by a visiting earthling in the late 60's. I've heard stranger tales than this.

Read materials from Walter Brown, PhD mechanical engineer MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology..about the best technical institution that exists). Mr. Brown is obviously way smarter than me and explains all of this much better than I just did.

Soon nobody will be worrying about moon rocks. Looking forward to 2028....

Cheers!

« Last Edit: September 23, 2010, 09:54:42 PM by MW383 »

 

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