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Author Topic: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM  (Read 920305 times)

Offline poynt99

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3990 on: April 13, 2011, 12:45:53 AM »
I would assume the bozo was asked to leave. If so, why?

Do the folks that remain feel the company/technology is still viable?

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3991 on: April 13, 2011, 01:10:15 AM »
The new directors formed another company called The Steorn Orbo Trust. What its purpose could be is anyone's guess.

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3992 on: April 13, 2011, 01:43:45 AM »
The new directors formed another company called The Steorn Orbo Trust. What its purpose could be is anyone's guess.

Seems like an oxymoron.

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3992 on: April 13, 2011, 01:43:45 AM »
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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3993 on: April 15, 2011, 06:16:32 PM »
Very one in the world has to see this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6gaN8gRs5A

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3994 on: April 15, 2011, 09:05:42 PM »
Very one in the world has to see this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6gaN8gRs5A

the speed is increasing because the planetary disks increasing the tangential velocity at the maximum diameter due to the effect of magnetic torque.
Due to this relative velocity the aerodynamic drag is reduced.

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3994 on: April 15, 2011, 09:05:42 PM »
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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3995 on: April 16, 2011, 03:46:31 PM »
Very one in the world has to see this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6gaN8gRs5A
11 posts in total. I bet you have posted this video in at least 11 other places too ;D

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3996 on: April 18, 2011, 11:25:43 AM »
the speed is increasing because the planetary disks increasing the tangential velocity at the maximum diameter due to the effect of magnetic torque.
Due to this relative velocity the aerodynamic drag is reduced.

No! The magnets are not increasing the tangential velocity ! It's been proven by many in the original thread. Wanting something to work just doesn't make it work ! Please don't spam anymore in this thread ! Go here if you want: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9188.msg281976#new

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3997 on: August 24, 2011, 07:25:22 PM »
So I don't have to read 200+ pages of posts... could someone please tell me one thing... is Steorn a fake? or is there something to this Orbo motor?

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3998 on: August 26, 2011, 12:09:14 PM »
All in all it looks good. However, to my information, nobody but Steorn has confirmed overunity.

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3998 on: August 26, 2011, 12:09:14 PM »
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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #3999 on: August 26, 2011, 06:43:30 PM »
So I don't have to read 200+ pages of posts... could someone please tell me one thing... is Steorn a fake? or is there something to this Orbo motor?

Steorn is a scam. The jury concluded no overunity. Steorn responded by giving a public demonstration with a battery which they changed every few hours, and by creating testing 'kits' you can buy for around $500 a pop. Total joke.

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #4000 on: August 27, 2011, 09:33:27 AM »
In general we can say that ANY claim of over unity is a scam, joke, fake, whatever. Personally I have never let such devices catched my eye, especially when running with batteries, and a bunch of wires. The only machine I find interesting is Finsrud's perpetuum mobile. But since no one really know EXACTLY how it works, I guess there must be some sort of energy input - who Finsrud himself might not understand. My guess.

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #4000 on: August 27, 2011, 09:33:27 AM »
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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #4001 on: October 29, 2011, 05:29:41 PM »
I just found that thread (over 2 years after it started ;/) and read 104 first pages out of 267.

At this point I can't help to ask you guys why is the width of the pulse energizing the coil (essentially an LR circuit) so long relative to the L/R parameter of the circuit (a.k.a. Tau) ?

From the energy efficiency point of view - it makes no sense to energize the coil for longer than 1.1513 Tau because after that time the energy dissipated in the resistance as heat starts exceeding the energy stored in the coil.

This break-even point happens when the current through the coil reaches 68% of the V/R limit, which is long before the current pulse levels off (...and appears flat and "rectangular").

If the energy in the coils is to be recovered than this break-even point happens two times sooner ( 0.5757 Tau) because during the recovery time the energy is also wasted in the resistance at the same rate.

A rectangular current pulse visible on a scope is "bad news" because any indication of flatness is a sure sign that the V/R limit has been approached and the energy dissipated in the resistor GREATLY exceeds the energy stored in the magnetic field of the coil.

An ideal pulse (below 0.5757 Tau) should have a rounded triangle shape.




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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #4002 on: November 06, 2011, 04:06:57 AM »
This blog is really great, keep creating good info.

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #4003 on: May 16, 2013, 01:12:22 PM »
This might help some experimenters who are pulsing inductors (e.g. Orbo's stator coils) and are trying to recover energy from them.

When a rectangular pulse transitioning abruptly from 0 to some voltage V is applied to a resistor in series with an inductor (e.g. a coil) by closing the switch in the diagram below, then the following sequence of events happens:

1) At the beginning (point A) no energy and no current is flowing (the switch is open).
2) Shortly after the rising edge of the stimulating pulse (after the switch closes), the current increases linearly
3) Some of the energy of the pulse is converted into the magnetic field in the inductor and some energy is dissipated in the resistance as heat. At this point the energy flows into the inductor faster than it is dissipated by the resistor.
4) After the time equal to 0.69 Tau (point B) the energy flow (a.k.a. power) into the inductor reaches its peak and starts decreasing afterwards, eventually reaching zero power and magnetic energy equal to 0.5*L*((V/R)^2), at Tau >> 5
5) However the current through the resistor keeps increasing non-linearly but monotonically and asymptotically up to the V/R limit and the energy flow (a.k.a power), dissipated as heat in the resistor, increases similarly up to the (V^2)/R limit.
6) After time equal to 1.15 Tau (point C), the magnetic energy accumulated in the inductor reaches the break even point with the total energy dissipated as heat in the resistor up to that point in time. Continuing beyond point C guarantees that more energy is dissipated as heat in the resistor than stored as the magnetic field of the inductor.
7) After a very long time the current reaches the V/R limit and the magnetic energy stored in the inductor reaches 0.5*L*((V/R)^2) limit but the energy dissipated in the resistor increases ad infinitum at the rate (a.k.a. power) equal to (V^2)/R.

For transformers, putting a load on the secondary winding (e.g. shorting it) has the same effect as decreasing the inductance of the primary winding (L). As a result of this, the Tau decreases and the current in the primary rises faster with time.


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If a constant and linear inductor is charged and later discharged at the same rate, then from efficiency point of view, it makes no sense to charge it longer than 0.5757 Tau (½ of time C, see pt.6), because if you do, then the energy dissipated in the resistance will be higher than the energy recovered from the inductor during its discharge. 
For realistic good recovery efficiency from the above inductor, the charging time should be less than ⅛Tau.

LEGEND:
Tau = L/R (a time constant)
V = The high level voltage of the stimulating rectangular pulse.
ETOT = Total energy delivered by the supply to the series RL circuit.
EL = Energy stored in the inductor as magnetic field
ER = Energy dissipated in the resistance as heat
PL = Instantaneous Power (energy flow) flowing into the inductor
PR = Instantaneous Power (energy flow) dissipation in the resistance
iL = The current flowing through the inductor (and resistor)
       ( I can post the relevant time-domain equations on request )
« Last Edit: January 31, 2014, 11:24:59 PM by hartiberlin »

 

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