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Author Topic: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder  (Read 222586 times)

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Guys.  This thread will be devoted to the development of our first application designed around exploiting the principles of our COP>17 circuit variously also known as a Mosfet Heating Circuit.  Full details of the circuit will be posted together with the proposed tests all of which will be conducted on a local university campus.  We've finally got this to an academic forum and will have the real benefit of some critical academic evaluations.  There are a great number of posts to be transferred and this will take me some time.  But watch this space.  Harti has kindly allowed his forum for the systematic disclosure of all information related to this in the interests of keeping this fully available to Open Source.  I will be dealing with all aspects related to this both on early tests, test replications and future tests.

Rosemary
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 Great to see you back Rosemary, I've been watching the other threads here and on the Energetic Forum. It's always a good fight and you hold your own.
   I hope there will be a Little more cooperation now and some head way made. Heat some water, spin some turbines generate electricity and change he world, we need it!
  I know that you've got the drive and with this "fringe" tech. getting a serious looks from academia eyes will be opened.
   Best of luck Pete

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Thank you Rosemary!
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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Great to see you back Rosemary, I've been watching the other threads here and on the Energetic Forum. It's always a good fight and you hold your own.
   I hope there will be a Little more cooperation now and some head way made. Heat some water, spin some turbines generate electricity and change he world, we need it!
  I know that you've got the drive and with this "fringe" tech. getting a serious looks from academia eyes will be opened.
   Best of luck Pete

Hello Pete and thanks for the good wishes.  LOL.  I'd love to create that 'generator' and certainly the potential is there.  But we're still crawling.  The object of the hot water cylinder is twofold.  It holds 8 litres and - although modest - would make a material contribution to those disadvantaged who are off grid in South Africa.  They still, unfortunately, number in the millions.  And any water that is heated without burning the wood which is their usual resource - has got to be a good thing.  Then - if we can retain that COP advantage evident in our tests - we should, at it's least, be able to reduce the number of solar panels that need to be used in conjunction with this.  But you're right.  Water has the real potential of energy generation in some sort of turbine arrangement.  Hopefully that will be stage 2 of these tests.

The history of this development has been fraught.  Traditionally one has assumed that Open Source is the best and only way to take these OU technologies.  I will be making some significant disclosures that will alert all our members and readers here on the real threat to development of free energy.  It 'lurks' not so much 'out there' but 'in here'.  Right inside the forums themselves.  But for now, those that are interested may want to look at my link to a scribd exercise.  It's a faithful but amusing account of some of my own actual experiences.  I'll be adding a couple of chapters to that exercise in due course.  But there is much 'intimated' rather than otherwise.  A full 'red alert expose' will be written in due course.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/33937867/IF-I-WAS-A-TROLL

That we now have academics on board is a good thing.  It not only speaks to a more questing attitude amongst our academics but it may be the first step to getting our OU technologies onto a more respectable campus forum.  The one thing that was ostensibly missing from everyone's efforts in this and many such forums has been this need for 'recognition'.  Strangely, I think that while those of us who go public - need a bit of courage, the more so in view of those MIB's  LOL - BUT to stick one's neck out in academic circles is really to open oneself to potential academic suicide.  But here it seems that there is enough departmental consensus to investigate this phenomenon. Nonetheless - commendably brave, and truly in the spirit of science.  As we know, science can only be progressed by empirical evidence.

But another thank you to Stefan for allowing this.  We needed a 'voice' and now that I have been banned from energetic forum - that voice is ever more critical.  There are those players who are anxious to silence me and to diminish the significance of this technology.  I will find some means of explaining the circumstance to that banning - but I get it that you guys want to MOVE ON.  And with good reason.  I'll find some way of making due record where it can be accessed without boring those of you who are only interested in the technology itself. 

Meanwhile I have much to do and much info to marshall.  I'll add it in 'drips and drabs' as and when I can access my work on that forum.  Tricky - now that I've been banned.  I question the right of any forum administrator to deny access to one's work.  Especially when it is as significant as ours.

Regards,
Rosemary
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Thank you Rosemary for wanting to help the world by sharing your findings.

Please POST A SCHEMATIC & List of Materials ASAP so some of us can GET STARTED.

There are a bunch of us that are "chomping at the bit" to get going on it.

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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Thank you Rosemary for wanting to help the world by sharing your findings.

Please POST A SCHEMATIC & List of Materials ASAP so some of us can GET STARTED.

There are a bunch of us that are "chomping at the bit" to get going on it.

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Hello FatBird.  Nice to see such enthusiasm.  I didn't expect replicators here - and was just assuming I'd be posting 'for the record' purposes.  As it is I'm afraid you've caught me off guard.  I'll need to post over the appropriate schematics.  For the time being just take whatever info you can get off our Open Source paper.  You'll need to 'dig'.  I should have some time tonight and will then see what I can put together to make the task simpler.  Else, if this is enough then let me know.  I'm a bit busy at present.  But I'll rally if required. 

Thanks very much for the interest and the kind thoughts.  Always welcome.   :)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26240411/PROVING-OVER-UNITY-THE-HARD-WORK-OF-MANY-DEDICATED-OPEN-SOURCE-MEMBERS

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@rosemary

I will be glad to try your circuit.

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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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@rosemary

I will be glad to try your circuit.

Jesus

:) Thanks Jesus.  Golly.  This is really so nice. 

Regards,
Rosemary
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@rosemary

Is it this schematic the one that we wll try?

Found at page 9 and 10 of:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/26240411/PROVING-OVER-UNITY-THE-HARD-WORK-OF-MANY-DEDICATED-OPEN-SOURCE-MEMBERS

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Hi Jesus.  Yes I think so.  Eyes not that good.  But it looks like the one from our paper.  If so I wonder if I could ask you to reference this somewhere?  Else we'll all be accused of plagiarism.  I think there's a minor variation to the switch between this and our first version posted in Quantum.  Not sure where the difference is though.

Jesus - can I impose on you to do a list of component parts?  If you've got the time.  It would help me enormously.  It should be easily transferable from the same paper. And guys - any reference to schematics and/or circuit diagrams or, for that matter any text - feel free to post it across.  Just always reference the paper's source.  It's a technicality and I don't want Harti bombarded with a whole lot of spurious objections. As it is I'm more or less prepared for this.   

Thanks again Jesus. 
Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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BTW.  For any 'builders' - just try and source that same FET if you can - from memory an IRFPG50.  Otherwise look for something that is robust enough to take some punishment from high current flow resulting from those spikes.  Also.  On rebuilds.  Try and get reasonably good Potentiometers.  There's some tricky 'tuning' required to get those waveforms.  And the final - important tip.  Your resistor does not need to be 10 Ohm duplicate.  Just look for anything that is wound on a hollow core (as wide as possible) with wiring at anything upwards of about 0.8 gauge.  The wider the better - but not yet sure of the upper limit - especially as one needs to keep current flow to what the MOSFET can handle. 

Thanks again Jesus.
 

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Jesus - can I impose on you to do a list of component parts?  If you've got the time.  It would help me enormously.  It should be easily transferable from the same paper. And guys - any reference to schematics and/or circuit diagrams or, for that matter any text - feel free to post it across.  Just always reference the paper's source. 
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Thanks again Jesus.
 

It is not my circuit I found it on page 9 and 10 of:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26240411/PROVING-OVER-UNITY-THE-HARD-WORK-OF-MANY-DEDICATED-OPEN-SOURCE-MEMBERS

But I can make a list of components if you post a higher resolution copy.

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Rosemary:

Good to see this work continuing over here.  I wish you the best.

Bill

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I am talking about the circuit found on page 9 and 10 of
http://www.scribd.com/doc/26240411/PROVING-OVER-UNITY-THE-HARD-WORK-OF-MANY-DEDICATED-OPEN-SOURCE-MEMBERS, which was identified as the circuit in question by nievesoliveras and Rosemary Ainslie in Replies 9 and 10 of this thread:

- As illustrated in the attached drawing, it is obvious that the NE555N part of the circuit provides a square wave signal to the gate potentiometer R1 of the IRFPG50.

- The only interesting part of the circuit is the one shown in the attached drawing, where the alleged overunity effect should manifest itself over the 10 Ohm LOAD RESISTOR R3.

- The square wave signal can be produced in much better ways than via the NE555N which is prone to temperature fluctuations because there is no frequency and duty cycle stabilisation by help of a quartz.

- A better way of providing the square wave signal would be a good signal generator or a microprocessor based circuit where the clock of the microprocessor is quartz stabilised.

Much speculation and a lot of useless work could be avoided if Rosemary Ainslie (or some other person in the know) would provide an exact specification of the required square wave signal as indicated in the drawing (time T or frequency and duty cycle D).

Once the required square wave signal on the gate of the IRFPG50 is known (without ambiguity), serious replication is possible.

Greetings, Conrad
« Last Edit: July 19, 2010, 08:29:39 PM by conradelektro »

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Hello Conrad.  You are absolutely right - provided only that the object here is to get a 'stabilised' waveform.  In point of fact, the efficacy of this circuit relies on what industry are most closely aware of as a parastic Hartley Effect but which only partially describes this.

What will become evident is that, with fine tuning, you will enable a resonance which is apparently chaotic but which carries within it, a signature harmonic.  When this occurs there is as much or more energy being returned to the battery than was first delivered.  Our early view of this was to describe it as a 'ghost wave' - but our subsequent work on this with Open source replicators - and the term was supplemented.  But this is the desired optimum resonating frequency.  I cannot tell you where or at what duty cycle you need to set this because it's a subtle moment when the inductive components in the cicuit reach a self-resonating fequency.  That moment is NOT frequency dependant.  But it is something that is subtly established within the system itself.  And one cannot safely 'predict' that moment because it varies with each minor variation in the components used.  While this 'ghost wave' may be achieved with a signal generator - my own experience is that the 555 switching system is preferred.  If you need to view this you will again have to refer to FuzzyTomCat's videos.  And I am never sure if he is making his data available or not.  What we will do in our tests is to show this on video.  But our own tests are still some weeks away from final set up.  It is never a 'quick fix' through campus as there are certain procedures and test set ups that are critically required to conform to their exacting test standards.

But you're right.  The effect is over the resistor.  Because of the frequencies involved it is nigh impossible to determine the instantaneous resistance - which is why we confined our tests to a measure of the heat dissipated.  Provided you reach this 'self-resonance' or this oscillation - then you will see that the amount of energy delivered by the battery is virtually zero while the load dissipates wattage - way in excess of that energy delivered.

I would recommend that you look at the 'introduction' to that paper - as this will explain the proposed 'source' of that energy.  But I know you guys are not that into the thesis and simply want to get a 'hands on' experience of the apparatus itself. 

Very grateful for this careful analysis Conrad.  You are right in every particular except that we are looking for that 'chaotic' number as a prelude to the ghost wave or 'shadow cycle' or call it what you will.  When you see it you'll understand. 

Btw.  The last thing that any usual application requires is that parasitic Hartley Effect.  Reference to this is usually confined to how to get rid of it.  And it's easily 'got rid of'.  One simply needs to apply some pressure to the wire.   I am of the opinion that this is one of those many reasons that the advantage here has not been fully explored.

Regards,
Rosemary
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